Klipsch THX Ultra2 Subwoofers

danz1906

danz1906 wrote: »

I prefer the Klipsch,but for the money the SVS ultra-13 cant be beat!

The Ultra-13 is a great sub, the Klipsch a just a Lil better.:p
The Klipschs can go lower and louder without stress:D

speakergeek

danz1906 wrote: »

The Ultra-13 is a great sub, the Klipsch a just a Lil better.:p
The Klipschs can go lower and louder without stress:D

Actually, the Kilpsch are -3 dB at 20Hz. The Ultra is flat to 18Hz (in 20Hz mode), and 14 Hz(in 15 Hz mode). I've meaured pretty good output at 13Hz with my duals. I've never seen any third party measurements of the THX subs , but I'd wager dual Ultras would crush the Kilpsch set-up there, in both output and extension.:)
Here's my in room response of the duals in 15Hz mode:

bartimus

speakergeek wrote: »

Actually, the Kilpsch are -3 dB at 20Hz. The Ultra is flat to 18Hz (in 20Hz mode), and 14 Hz(in 15 Hz mode). I've meaured pretty good output at 13Hz with my duals. I've never seen any third party measurements of the THX subs , but I'd wager dual Ultras would crush the Kilpsch set-up there, in both output and extension.:)
Here's my in room response of the duals in 15Hz mode:

I would put my money on the PB13's in tandem as well. They are incredible subs for the money, and they are beautiful pieces of work too...the fit and finish is awsome.

danz1906

bartimus wrote: »

I would put my money on the PB13's in tandem as well. They are incredible subs for the money, and they are beautiful pieces of work too...the fit and finish is awsome.

I think that two PB-13 vs two Klipsch KW-120 Thx subwoofer
would be a great face-off. The PB-13 win in the looks dept:p

leroyjr1

I'd like to put dual Epik Conquests in the mix against the dual PB-13 and the Klipsch Ultra2 and see which one comes out on top.

danz1906

leroyjr1 wrote: »

I'd like to put dual Epik Conquests in the mix against the dual PB-13 and the Klipsch Ultra2 and see which one cones out on top.

Thats another great Subwoofer!
You cant go wrong with any of the 3 subs:D

leroyjr1

danz1906 wrote: »

Thats another great Subwoofer!
You cant go wrong with any of the 3 subs:D

I'm still debating what sub I'm getting. Should be any day now. Trying to find my best option under the 2k mark.

speakergeek

Duplicate post..

speakergeek

leroyjr1 wrote: »

I'd like to put dual Epik Conquests in the mix against the dual PB-13 and the Klipsch Ultra2 and see which one comes out on top.

The dual Conquests would win in overall out put capability over the Ultras. But then the Ultras are more customizable and much better looking...;) One Conquest=~1.5 Ultras.

danz1906

The SVS Ultra-13 is a great sub for the money. My buddy just got one in Rosewood.Mannnn thats a good looking subwoofer, and HUGE!!!!!
I think that SVS are doing Free shipping at this time:)
My buddy order his on a Wednesday and received it on that Saturday:D
Go for the SVS Ultra-13:D:D:D

leroyjr1

Whichever sub I choose will be used for 100%HT.

danz1906

Yep, these subs are the Bad Boys of Home theater:cool:

danz1906

leroyjr1 wrote: »

Whichever sub I choose will be used for 100%HT.

Are you any closer to making a decision?
I would say: 1st SVS Ultra-13 brand new....$1599.00:D x2
2nd Epik Conquest brand new....$1599.00:D x2
3rd Klipsch THX Ultra 2 new....$4100.00:)

danz1906

leroyjr1 wrote: »

Whichever sub I choose will be used for 100%HT.

Velodyne DD-15 or DD-18?

danz1906

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »

When I get back into HT --

The subs in my system will hands down be the VMPS Larger Sub -- at minimum 2 of them, at most 4 of them --

1000 watts going to each sub...

Each sub is rated at 120db at 20hz - all day.

The drivers are nothing impressive to look at. Neither is the sub itself -- but it utilizes an active 15,12 and a passive 15" in a push pull configuration -- with a slot loaded bass for insane output and extention.

Not to mention probally the most accurate bass you will hear...

There are so many subs out there in that price range...

This Subwoofer must be added to the list:D

leroyjr1

danz1906 wrote: »

Are you any closer to making a decision?
I would say: 1st SVS Ultra-13 brand new....$1599.00:D x2
2nd Epik Conquest brand new....$1599.00:D x2
3rd Klipsch THX Ultra 2 new....$4100.00:)

If they had the Conquest in stock I'd get that first then the PB13 ultra. My basement room is only 16x14x7 so any of the two above would crack the drywall:D

danz1906

leroyjr1 wrote: »

If they had the Conquest in stock I'd get that first then the PB13 ultra. My basement room is only 16x14x7 so any of the two above would crack the drywall:D

One Subwoofer should work in your room no problem,Im all ready to
drive up and hear that baby roar:D

Sherardp

leroyjr1 wrote: »

If they had the Conquest in stock I'd get that first then the PB13 ultra. My basement room is only 16x14x7 so any of the two above would crack the drywall:D

I agree one sub will murder that room. I run dual SVS PB12/Plus 2 and @ a 1/4 gain on both subs its unreal in there. I ran them a few DB hot once and just abused my body and ears with so much pressurization from those things. I was considering adding two of the Cylinder subs on top of that, but my goodness that would just be nuts in there. My room is slightly larger @ 14x22 but OH MY, those subs you guys are talking now are serious business, and that's a good thing.

danz1906

Sherardp wrote: »

I agree one sub will murder that room. I run dual SVS PB12/Plus 2 and @ a 1/4 gain on both subs its unreal in there. I ran them a few DB hot once and just abused my body and ears with so much pressurization from those things. I was considering adding two of the Cylinder subs on top of that, but my goodness that would just be nuts in there. My room is slightly larger @ 14x22 but OH MY, those subs you guys are talking now are serious business, and that's a good thing.

Thats a sweet system you have-Dual subs rock:D

danz1906

Do you guys use the Phase control on your Subwoofer???

bevo

What about the Mark seaton submersive. I just got the svs pb13 ultra, but over at AVS everyone loves the submersive. It apparently beats out the ultra, in every category. My ultra is huge, and has more then enough bass for me. The submersive, doesn't have the looks of the ultra, and I was trying to keep the wife happy, plus they are made in my home state, and there is a waiting list for the submersive. I think the JL fathom was the only sub they could find to compete with it, but the submersive is 2000$ cheaper.

Anyway, it looks like the submersive is definitely the sub to beat for under 4000$, and it comes in at 1900$. I haven't read of anyone saying they liked another sub better then the submersive, except for the looks. Anyone wanting a bigtime sub, should definitely put it on their short list. I don't think any of the major sub companies can compete with it.

apphd

bev, not sure how the submersive would stack up against the pb ultra. Both serious subs for sure. Mark Seaton sure seems to enjoy sub design and from many comments I have read from him, has his own design criteria and goals in mind before he starts something, then works to reach those to his high level of standards. Which from what I have read, like you, gets lots of praise from owners. To me the only draw back compared to SVS is his company's small size. Hence the waiting list (along with the number of people wanting this).

On a side note, what did you think of the buttkicker? I have been getting the urge to explore this approach a little to still be able to feel some bass when listening at night when my youngster is in bed. How would you rate the value to cost ratio of shakers?

bevo

The buttkicker I have is the small one that is made for gaming. In all reality, no joking, the ultra literally sends more vibration then the buttkicker I have. Now, if I ran my buttkicker with the crossover set higher I would get more response from it, but then it would almost always be sending vibrations to me.

I have never used the larger versions in the 500$ and up range. I'm sure they would add alot more then the 150$ one that I have. I actually unhooked the amp to mine after I got the ultra, because there was really no point in having it anymore. The ultra kicks way more butt.

But like you say, it might work out good for you at night. If you got one of the larger ones that you attach to your couch, it would probably be really cool. Mine was hooked to a video game racing setup I have. It would send vibrations to my chair whenever I ran off the road, or bumped another car. It worked pretty well, but it all depended on how the game used bass to activate the buttkicker.

danz1906

bevo wrote: »

What about the Mark seaton submersive. I just got the svs pb13 ultra, but over at AVS everyone loves the submersive. It apparently beats out the ultra, in every category. My ultra is huge, and has more then enough bass for me. The submersive, doesn't have the looks of the ultra, and I was trying to keep the wife happy, plus they are made in my home state, and there is a waiting list for the submersive. I think the JL fathom was the only sub they could find to compete with it, but the submersive is 2000$ cheaper.

Anyway, it looks like the submersive is definitely the sub to beat for under 4000$, and it comes in at 1900$. I haven't read of anyone saying they liked another sub better then the submersive, except for the looks. Anyone wanting a bigtime sub, should definitely put it on their short list. I don't think any of the major sub companies can compete with it.

The Submersive looks impressive:D

speakergeek

bevo wrote: »

but over at AVS everyone loves the submersive. It apparently beats out the ultra, in every category.
.

Some people over there love the Submersive. Many people like other subs. It is a good sub. Not sure about it beating the Ultra in every category as you put it. Also, the Ultra is a ported single driver sub, while the submersive is a dual sealed design. Very different beasts. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses.

danz1906

speakergeek wrote: »

Some people over there love the Submersive. Many people like other subs. It is a good sub. Not sure about it beating the Ultra in every category as you put it. Also, the Ultra is a ported single driver sub, while the submersive is a dual sealed design. Very different beasts. Each has it's strengths and weaknesses.

Both look like very good subwoofers.

mantis

danz1906 wrote: »

Well Guys looks like I sold my Paradigm DSP-3400 subwoofer on Audiogon.
I may pickup a used pair of Klipsch Ultra2 subwoofers this weekend.:cool:

Dude honestly thats a really good move. I really don't like that sub at all. It has viscous output but no musical abilities at all. It reminds me of the SVS subs I have Installed over the years. Same kinda deal.

Dan

mantis

danz1906 wrote: »

Do you guys use the Phase control on your Subwoofer???

Absolutely . I can give you a good rule of thumb.

Front of room go 0 phase
Side walls go 90 phase out
back wall go 180 phase.

This is a very good starting point. Most of the time you can set it and leave it in these positions. Rarely do I have to change them. Unless the room is very long, I have to play with the phase out of my standard setting.

Dan

danz1906

mantis wrote: »

Absolutely . I can give you a good rule of thumb.

Front of room go 0 phase
Side walls go 90 phase out
back wall go 180 phase.

This is a very good starting point. Most of the time you can set it and leave it in these positions. Rarely do I have to change them. Unless the room is very long, I have to play with the phase out of my standard setting.

Dan

Man your good,I have my Subs on the side wall and 90 phase was the
best setting. The 90 phase is full sounding and tight.
From one Dan to another-Thanks:cool:

goingganzo

thoes are some sweet subs but for 4k i can dubble my setup and knock down the house. i olny have 4 18 in a ib with 3000 watts