Might try vinyl

organ
organ Posts: 4,969
edited March 2009 in 2 Channel Audio
Ok, all the vinyl talk in this forum is making me want to get a TT. Problem is, I don't want to spend much money. I just want to get a feel for its sound.

I'm looking at the Rega P1. I believe they retail for $399. Then I'll have to get a phono pre. Again I'm not looking to spend much there. Do you think an entry level set up like this would sound better than my Rega Apollo cdp? Should I just stick to cd?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    If you are comparing a $400 TT to a $1k CDP that wouldn't be a fair comparison but I don't think you will be disappointed with the P1 and some decently cleaned vinyl.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2009
    organ wrote: »
    Ok, all the vinyl talk in this forum is making me want to get a TT. I just want to get a feel for its sound.

    You'd better not.
    organ wrote: »
    Should I just stick to cd?

    Yes.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2009
    ^^^^What he said!!!!
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    ^^^^What he said!!!!

    Shudder up you big goof, you have no experience with vinyl except for one of the portable 45 players.:D;)
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  • Rivrrat
    Rivrrat Posts: 2,101
    edited February 2009
    I'm just thinking about getting my old Technics SLD 2 back from my stepson.
    My equipment sig felt inadequate and deleted itself.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2009
    organ wrote: »
    Ok, all the vinyl talk in this forum is making me want to get a TT. Problem is, I don't want to spend much money.nowink.gif

    biggrin.gifYou don't wanna spend much $$$$$ huh? Ok...I'll make a "deal" with you.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2009
    Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know.


    (And sometimes you're better off not knowing.)
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2009
    I just bought a Technics SL1300, not in the same league as the the P1 but at 1/4 the price I am happy I did.

    Its fun digging out the old vinyle seeing what still sounds good, some don't but some does.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Shudder up you big goof, you have no experience with vinyl except for one of the portable 45 players.:D;)

    A lesson well learned!! Now I just spin frisbees in the park.

    Hey, I called you Sat morning...I was in the mood for a road trip. You didn't get back to me. I had a yearning for listening to some Snap, Crackle, & Pop!! :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    A lesson well learned!! Now I just spin frisbees in the park.

    Hey, I called you Sat morning...I was in the mood for a road trip. You didn't get back to me. I had a yearning for listening to some Snap, Crackle, & Pop!! :D

    Sorry buddy I didn't get the message. Perhaps next weekend.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    Sorry buddy I didn't get the message. Perhaps next weekend.

    I'll let you know. Gotta be early. Maybe you can drag the zombie out of bed too!!! :D
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2009
    Darque Knight,
    I hope that little character is only the upgrade bug. If that's the devil, I'm in big ****.

    Ok ok, don't know if you guys are just saving me from more hair loss due to maintanance and set up or what. So would the Rega P1 set up give me a good analog sound?
    Or would SACD be the better choice?
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    The Rega will give you nice analog sound and a wider selection of music. You could go the SACD route but you probably won't find as much music in the used market as you will with LPs.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    You should also consider buying a record clamp for the Rega. Here is one that I recommend. You might shrink at spending another $100 but the improvement in sound quality with the clamp engaged will amaze you.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2009
    organ wrote: »
    Darque Knight,
    I hope that little character is only the upgrade bug. If that's the devil, I'm in big ****.

    Ok ok, don't know if you guys are just saving me from more hair loss due to maintanance and set up or what. So would the Rega P1 set up give me a good analog sound?
    Or would SACD be the better choice?

    you can't compare the two different formats like that.. one being analog and the other being hi rez digital audio. both are good.

    I think you're on the right track with your choices with the Rega and the pre amp. does the Rega come with a cartridge? if so. they are usually pretty entry level ones.. which are ok for just occasional listening. but to take it up a notch you'll most likely want to upgrade that cartridge later on.. $$, then of course you need cleaning supplies for the vinyl $$, then some vinyl of course $$, then a record clamp of some sort $, then..$$ you see my point? ;)

    VS

    SACD player and some SACD's $$ no cleaning supplies, no cartridges to change out. If you bend the stylus it's for the most part done for and you then need to replace it.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    danger boy wrote: »
    you can't compare the two different formats like that.. one being analog and the other being hi rez digital audio. both are good.

    I think you're on the right track with your choices with the Rega and the pre amp. does the Rega come with a cartridge? if so. they are usually pretty entry level ones.. which are ok for just occasional listening. but to take it up a notch you'll most likely want to upgrade that cartridge later on.. $$, then of course you need cleaning supplies for the vinyl $$, then some vinyl of course $$, then a record clamp of some sort $, then..$$ you see my point? ;)

    The record clamp should lead the pack!:D;)
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited February 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    The record clamp should lead the pack!:D;)

    Agreed! it does make a big difference. ;)
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited February 2009
    Vinyl has a high buy-in so to speak. But, once you got everything you need, you can surpass CD with musical results.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited February 2009
    organ wrote: »
    Darque Knight,
    I hope that little character is only the upgrade bug. If that's the devil, I'm in big ****.

    Yes, that is the devil and yes, if you proceed along this line of inquiry, you will end up in big ****. A wife (or a second wife if you are already married) would be less aggravation...and probably cheaper to maintain because most wives have a dollar or two of their own.;)
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2009
    Thanks for the tips guys. Ok, I got it, record clamp, better cartridge, cleaning supplies. But this stuff sounds kinda scary.
    I won't be able to do everything at once, but slow upgrades will definitely be done. I could start with a clamp and later down the road get a new cartridge, etc.

    In the next month I'll bee going to the dealer to demo Mark&Daniel speakers and he has a lot of TT's. I may demo the Rega there if he has the P1.

    Are moden mainstream jazz like Norah Jones, Diana Krall, Jane Monheit, etc available on LP?
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    Yes, that is the devil and yes, if you proceed along this line of inquiry, you will end up in big ****. A wife (or a second wife if you are already married) would be less aggravation...and probably cheaper to maintain because most wives have a dollar or two of their own.;)

    ROTF:D. Not married, that's why I'm thinking about going analog. Still have quite a bit of free time. Been married to digital long enough. Time to try something new (or is it old:)).
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    organ wrote: »
    Are moden mainstream jazz like Norah Jones, Diana Krall, Jane Monheit, etc available on LP?

    Absolutely! New and used.
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  • organ
    organ Posts: 4,969
    edited February 2009
    Hearingimpaired,
    Alright! Now I'm really excited. I find that these mellow jazz stuff have the best recordings.
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited February 2009
    I guess I always assumed you listened to vinyl. Be aware, you may not want to put up with the characteristic CD sound anymore once you get started on the journey.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    organ wrote: »
    Hearingimpaired,
    Alright! Now I'm really excited. I find that these mellow jazz stuff have the best recordings.

    Welcome to the dark side.;)
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Vinyl has a high buy-in so to speak. But, once you got everything you need, you can surpass CD with musical results.

    Opinions vary.
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  • hearingimpared
    hearingimpared Posts: 21,137
    edited February 2009
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Vinyl has a high buy-in so to speak. But, once you got everything you need, you can surpass CD with musical results.
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Opinions vary.

    You doesn't count!:p:D
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited February 2009
    pearsall001 wrote: »
    Opinions vary.
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    You doesn't count!:p:D

    He's got a great Rega CDP. I bet he will be thoroughly unimpressed by vinyl by comparison at a $400 level. My guess is that you guys are just trying to suck another one into the fray like you did me.

    . . . guys are a nothin' but a bunch of weirdos with a white van and candy. Stop trying to lure the innocent with promises that they'll be dropped off where they started when you get done with them. Vinyl is a black hole and your wallet is a small star.
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  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited February 2009
    DarqueKnight wrote: »
    biggrin.gifYou don't wanna spend much $$$$$ huh? Ok...I'll make a "deal" with you.

    This guy is what you could become with vinyl.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited February 2009
    hearingimpared wrote: »
    You doesn't count!:p:D

    Yessummmm boss...!!!! :D

    Just trying to keep it real. Tell him to eat a bowl of rice krispies when he's spinning a CD...ah, the snap, crackle, pop, the warmth, mellowness, the scratches, the pits, the record cleaner, the vacuum, the flattener, the isostat thingamagiggy, don't forget the clamp, oh boy I just love vinyl. Where the hell is my remote. :D
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