Fake Audioquest cables??

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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited September 2010
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    F1nut wrote:
    Why juju and xpinto are still allowed to post here is beyond me. You wonder why older members don't post like they use, look at those two trolls for the reason.

    Agree 1,000%.

    I do wish people would quit quoting them as that is it only time I ever have to see any of the BS they post since I put both of them on ignore a long time ago.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited September 2010
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    cnoat wrote: »
    That would be sweet considering I got them for 27.00 total.

    Make sure and post some pics of the ebay cables and the dealer cables.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited September 2010
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    Its interesting that both PS cables appear to be nearly identical.I would expect most of the counterfit Asian product to have a tell tale sign that would differentiate it from the real thing.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
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    FTGV wrote: »
    Its interesting that both PS cables appear to be nearly identical.I would expect most of the counterfit Asian product to have a tell tale sign that would differentiate it from the real thing.

    The whole point is that they may only be counterfeit because they aren't sold through nor sanctioned by PS.

    In a lot of cases there is a possibility that it is the same exact cable. When you as a company (PS Audio in this instance) source 10K foot of cable. X number of terminations (all from a Chinese source) and then contract it out to a factory all the factory does is order another 5K foot of cable and X number of terminations. When they are done fulfilling your order they crank out a few more.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    The whole point is that they may only be counterfeit because they aren't sold through nor sanctioned by PS.
    And this would have been clear had I read the complete posts.:o
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited September 2010
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    Hell, you guys haven't seen anything yet:

    Check out the Peavey IPR thread at AVSForum.

    The link will take you to page 15. Look at the posts by authlxl. Starts right off rubbing it in that a Chinese engineering firm has a straight rip of the QSC PL380. Hey if you are going to clone an amp at least they chose a good one.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,063
    edited September 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    the same exact cable.

    I say we all pitch in and buy a couple of pairs of the PS Audio and Audioquest cables and dissect them to see if they are the same. I'm in.:)
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
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    Conradicles wrote: »
    I say we all pitch in and buy a couple of pairs of the PS Audio and Audioquest cables and dissect them to see if they are the same. I'm in.:)

    I've thrown $20-30 away on worse. One sweet dollar at a time;):D
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  • Valentine
    Valentine Posts: 46
    edited September 2010
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    I actually order a pair of CV-4 AQ from ebay, the only way to tell the difference is too cut the wire in half. Thats what i the AQ dealer told me
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited September 2010
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    i have some AQ Type 4 wires that I suspect to be fake. If I open the end of the banana clips would I be able to see if its a authentic AQ?
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
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    acmf74 wrote: »
    i have some AQ Type 4 wires that I suspect to be fake. If I open the end of the banana clips would I be able to see if its a authentic AQ?

    You would have to have an original to compare it to. Two places that I would look is a cross section of the cable (Jacket, shield/drain, conductor, dielectric) and then the termination itself.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 4,986
    edited September 2010
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    While I generally support free trade, we (the US) are getting screwed with all the copyright infringements by Chineese knock-off artisits. I always check the US SELLERS ONLY box on Ebay.
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
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    kevhed72 wrote: »
    I always check the US SELLERS ONLY box on Ebay.

    This is no guarantee that some US sellers aren't getting their merchandise from Chinese knock-off artists.

    I think that OEMs that use off shore manufacturing facilities, particularly those in Asia, assume a certain amount of copycatting. It is just the cost of doing business over there. Obviously, the labor cost savings far outweigh the lost sales revenue due to copycatting.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,754
    edited September 2010
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    Keiko wrote: »
    If I were so disliked somewhere I'd have enough dignity to simply leave.

    So why are you still here whining?
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited September 2010
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    jinjuku wrote: »
    The whole point is that they may only be counterfeit because they aren't sold through nor sanctioned by PS.

    In a lot of cases there is a possibility that it is the same exact cable. When you as a company (PS Audio in this instance) source 10K foot of cable. X number of terminations (all from a Chinese source) and then contract it out to a factory all the factory does is order another 5K foot of cable and X number of terminations. When they are done fulfilling your order they crank out a few more.

    Are you saying they are Legit Fakes? Yuk! I have to wash my mouth for using the word "Legit" with the word "Fake" together.

    A fake / counterfeit / copy is called so coz it's not the original regardless of how it's made to be 100% resemble.

    Regardless of whatever materials they share with PS audio, they may not use the name PS audio when they market the cables if they do not want to make counterfeits in the first place.

    Just saying...
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
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    megasat16 wrote: »
    Are you saying they are Legit Fakes? Yuk! I have to wash my mouth for using the word "Legit" with the word "Fake" together.

    A fake / counterfeit / copy is called so coz it's not the original regardless of how it's made to be 100% resemble.

    Regardless of whatever materials they share with PS audio, they may not use the name PS audio when they market the cables if they do not want to make counterfeits in the first place.

    Just saying...

    Just putting it out there that they could be 100% copies. That you could put two PS Audio power cables in front of a PS Audio engineer, and if one cable came off the line to fulfill PS Audio's order, and another came off the line after that, that the engineer would most likely not be able to distinguish the counterfeit. It does happen.

    I guess counterfeit is a better term to use? Again look at what happened to Cisco.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,235
    edited September 2010
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    comfortablycurt wrote: »
    You do have to be careful about that. I've heard of people buying Monster Cables off ebay before, and they ended up being counterfeits.
    Keiko wrote: »
    I wonder too if these might be better than the real deal? :rolleyes:

    Anything, including a coat-hanger would be better than them...
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  • landry_p2000
    landry_p2000 Posts: 1,313
    edited September 2010
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    digitalvideo wrote: »
    Where do you purchase official authentic AQ's from? From their official website?

    I got (4) of the Audio Quest "Pearl" hdmi cables from www.onecall.com. They carry some of the cables.
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,915
    edited September 2010
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    landry_p2000 wrote: »
    I got (4) of the Audio Quest "Pearl" hdmi cables from www.onecall.com. They carry some of the cables.

    Hey buddy, you are still around?!! Good to see you again! Sorry for the derail
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  • schutz2106
    schutz2106 Posts: 115
    edited October 2010
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    Ebay-too cheap to be true=knockoff. But at some of the prices its hard not to try them. I just buy from Blue Jeans anymore.
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  • lessthanzero
    lessthanzero Posts: 31
    edited October 2010
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    schutz2106 wrote: »
    Ebay-too cheap to be true=knockoff. But at some of the prices its hard not to try them. I just buy from Blue Jeans anymore.

    Same here. They have great products along with super service, and fast shipping.............
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited October 2010
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    I have spoken to Andrew at Blue Jeans and Frank at Signal Cable numerous times. They always take the time to talk and explain to me all my questions. These guys always get my business. A+++
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited October 2010
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    Frank is awesome to deal with as he's the owner and knows his stuff.

    Fake cables are easy to find on the market. I normally like to buy from auth dealers but the prices are great on the stuff on fleabay...its really up to the person if they want to take the chance or not.

    if a price seems too good to be true, it normally is...
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 10,915
    edited October 2010
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    Another vote for Frank, I really like the feel of his cables well built for sure. I have also been lucky on some scores from Ebay.
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  • cnoat
    cnoat Posts: 315
    edited October 2010
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    Just recieved a pair of "FAKE" sidewinders.Side by side comparison.They are not fakes.Still burning them in but at first conception they are real.
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited October 2010
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    cnoat wrote: »
    Just recieved a pair of "FAKE" sidewinders.Side by side comparison.They are not fakes.Still burning them in but at first conception they are real.

    Was really hoping this thread would remain inactive :o

    Since it's been awhile and there were several threads posted on these fake/real MITs/AQs/etc, how much did you pay for your Sidewinders in total?

    For a cable like that, it really makes no sense to purchase them from a seller out in Hong Kong since the real deal sold online or even on this forum (I've sold several pairs over and over again) are very affordable.

    Last pair I sold was a 1.5m pair for $35 bucks, or was it $40 with original box shipped.
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  • Knucklehead
    Knucklehead Posts: 3,602
    edited October 2010
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    cnoat wrote: »
    Just recieved a pair of "FAKE" sidewinders.Side by side comparison.They are not fakes.Still burning them in but at first conception they are real.

    please explain...you contradicted yourself.:confused:
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited October 2010
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited October 2010
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    cnoat wrote: »
    Just recieved a pair of "FAKE" sidewinders.Side by side comparison.They are not fakes.Still burning them in but at first conception they are real.

    Post some pic's if you would. It seems there are ton of Hong Kong origin King Cobra's also.

    Still say they are all off of the same line. Even the reseller has a really good rating:confused:
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  • cnoat
    cnoat Posts: 315
    edited October 2010
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    kawizx9r wrote: »
    Was really hoping this thread would remain inactive :o

    Since it's been awhile and there were several threads posted on these fake/real MITs/AQs/etc, how much did you pay for your Sidewinders in total?

    For a cable like that, it really makes no sense to purchase them from a seller out in Hong Kong since the real deal sold online or even on this forum (I've sold several pairs over and over again) are very affordable.

    Last pair I sold was a 1.5m pair for $35 bucks, or was it $40 with original box shipped.

    27.00 Shipped.Bought just to compare.
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    AQ T4 SC
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