Carver Forum closes

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  • RichP714
    RichP714 Posts: 45
    edited January 2009
    SteveFord wrote: »
    Snarffy,
    You let your son try that BBE with the Sunfire or did you hide it?
    That reinds me, I got anopther BBE dirt cheap, and was going to send it out on a roadshow, but I forgot who wanted it first, and now I can't get to the forum....does anybody remember?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited January 2009
    I'm almost positive it was me.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • Joe Humbert
    Joe Humbert Posts: 189
    edited January 2009
    Hey guys, stereo_dog, here. Well, what a mess... I wish I knew what the real story is, I always liked the Carver Forum, it got me my first taste of OCCD. I've been lurking here awhile, nice group, lots of great info.
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  • ViperZ
    ViperZ Posts: 2,046
    edited January 2009
    RichP714 wrote: »
    I sent Anatech your email address and asked him to contact you....

    Thanks Rich!
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    OK mensies and ladieses, I have arrived. I see that my name has been getting tossed around in here to day, so I'm here to clear up any misconceptions about the situation over at the CarverAudio.com Forum that I am aware of.

    There is a whole lot more going on there that anyone on here is aware of but I will only be addressing those things that can be factually corroborated.

    The Polo Shirts Incident: Prior to CarverFest 08, the owner/administrator of the CarverAudio.com offered to order custom embroidered Polo Shirts for attendees and Forum members before a September 1 deadline pending pre-payment of the shirts and shipping expenses. At least 7 members who could not attend ordered 10 Polo Shirts and pre-paid them before the deadline and those were originally supposed to get shipped before CF08 but due to timing issues, the shipping was first postponed till after the Forum owner got back from the festival. All members who attended the festival got their Polo Shirts. The Polo Shirts never got shipped despite repeated public and private promises and delays on the part of the Forum owner.

    Yes, I was quite upset as I had ordered and prepaid for 4 Polo Shirts for a total of $135USD + $20 for shipping. 2 of those were intended to be a gift to another Forum member who was unable to attend the festival. As of this afternoon, the amount that I paid for the Polo Shirts was refunded to my PayPal account but not the shipping which I am more than ready to let go of.

    As for the threats of physical violence to Forum Administrators I have not see any proof of any such allegations except for the assertion of this except for what I have just seen on the CarverAudio Forum and read on here. I had been speaking with my lawyer (who is wintering in Florida and is an active member of the Florida Bar and who was willing to take this matter on pro-bone) but had not even thought of any physical repercussions. Another senior member has been talking about filing charges with American Express and PayPal to get hs money refunded.

    The owner of the Carver Forum has a reputation for not shipping out merchandise he has been paid for; just ask TNRabbit who used to be on the CarverAudio Forum about waiting 9 months to receive a car amp he had paid for and another senior Forum member who sent 3 48" ribbins in for repair along with a $1200 + shipping expenses some 17 months ago and is still waiting for them back repaired, so there are other people on that Forum who have plenty more reason than me to be pissed at the administrators.

    There are always 3 sides to any story: the 2 sides represented by each side and the truth which is usually a combination of both sides stories + other facts not admitted by either side.

    Treitz3 and RichP714, I will be contacting both of you as soon as I can dig up your contact information to discuss things. And hi to all of my other friends from the other Forum who are also members here.

    PS: I do own Polk speakers; a pair of Monitor 20s, a pair of RTi-A1s and a PSW-505 subwoofer in addition to a pair of Martin Logan Sources, a pair of 3A Apog
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    RichP714 wrote: »
    That reinds me, I got anopther BBE dirt cheap, and was going to send it out on a roadshow, but I forgot who wanted it first, and now I can't get to the forum....does anybody remember?

    I think it was TNRabbit before he left on vacation Rich, but dont, quote me on that.
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,163
    edited January 2009
    ViperZ wrote: »
    Steve, I am not sure if it's the same place. The username of the guy I talked to is/was Anatech.

    I was aware of Ontario AV, but thanks again for their contact info :).

    Anatech (Chris) is an outstanding individual who is a moderator on DIY Audio. Straight shooter, stand up guy and he knows his ****. You should be able to contact him thru diyaudio.com

    I know he's had some health issues lately, but he is an Adcom ,Carver, Nak guru among others. A former tech who owned his own repair shop.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited January 2009
    OBI, PM sent.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    OBI, PM sent.

    Saw that Treitz3, but can't reply to it because I don't have enough posts yet. Lets see how long it takes me to reach the same number as I had on the other forum ... LOL!!!
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited January 2009
    thall wrote: »
    Another Carver refugee here. I was wondering what was going on.
    Didn't see any of the closed msgs mentioned. Don't have any Polk
    stuff yet. Hope to fix that someday soon.


    At least you are bringing something new to the forum. A LOCAL!!

    Where in SW Ohio are you? I'm in Mason. And I can sell you some Polk stuff ;)
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    snarffydoggy wrote: »
    Yep that part about the boys going to Florida to take care of things leaves a lot to wonder about. obviously there was a lot more going on than any of us was aware of. Good luck on the new site RichP I' lltry to browse over there tomorrow and get signed in.

    Hey there Snarffydoggy! Nice to see you on here too. Yeah, there is/was a WHOLE lot more going on behind the scenes there that can't be revealed because all the proof of it has been lost along with the forum. Can't be starting rumors or inuendo that can't be proven, now can we?
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    Hi to Dreamer, Steve Ford, Thall, F1-nut, ViperZ, Stereo-Dog, ZootHorn, GDB, Skip and Engtaz and Snow. I'm here now to drive you nuts once again!
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • disneyjoe7
    disneyjoe7 Posts: 11,435
    edited January 2009
    Any know for sure whom we are talking about in Florida?

    Speakers
    Carver Amazing Fronts
    CS400i Center
    RT800i's Rears
    Sub Paradigm Servo 15

    Electronics
    Conrad Johnson PV-5 pre-amp
    Parasound Halo A23
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    WMC Win7 32bit HD DVR


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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    disneyjoe7 wrote: »
    Any know for sure whom we are talking about in Florida?

    Hey there DisneyJoe. From what I have been able to gather, the CarverAudio Administrators (who are in Florida) received threats of physical harm from a Forum member regarding some sort of issue over money owed for merchandise or services not received. See the "story" about this on what is left of the CarverAudio Forum.
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited January 2009
    Hi Marc good to see you made it to the party :D And yes DJ we know who it is in florida that Marc is referring to but since I have not had any financial dealings with either of the Admins there I will refrain from saying anything myself.



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • SteveFord
    SteveFord Posts: 38
    edited January 2009
    I think it's safe to say our old forum is dead and buried due to the things that Obi mentioned.
    We should drop the matter and let the parties involved handle it amongst themselves.

    RichP has generously set up a new forum for us at his site

    www.carvermk2.com

    I see you there.
    No reason it can't be the same deal as the old one but maybe we'll treat each other a bit better.
    I'll burn a CD of your choice if you take a quick look at my avatar and tell me who it is.
    Polk forum, thank you for your hospitality.
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  • thall
    thall Posts: 25
    edited January 2009
    Ricardo wrote: »
    At least you are bringing something new to the forum. A LOCAL!!

    Where in SW Ohio are you? I'm in Mason. And I can sell you some Polk stuff ;)

    I'm in Wilmington, and the wife says no you can't.
    thall
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  • snow
    snow Posts: 4,337
    edited January 2009
    SteveFord wrote: »
    I think it's safe to say our old forum is dead and buried due to the things that Obi mentioned.
    We should drop the matter and let the parties involved handle it amongst themselves.

    RichP has generously set up a new forum for us at his site

    www.carvermk2.com

    I see you there.
    No reason it can't be the same deal as the old one but maybe we'll treat each other a bit better.
    I'll burn a CD of your choice if you take a quick look at my avatar and tell me who it is.
    Polk forum, thank you for your hospitality.
    As the saying in the movie goes..... "Build it and they will come" :D



    REGARDS SNOW
    Well, I just pulled off the impossible by doing a double-blind comparison all by myself, purely by virtue of the fact that I completely and stupidly forgot what I did last. I guess that getting old does have its advantages after all :D
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited January 2009
    I like the setup of the site. I think there should be a forum button. I have been curious to what makes some of the older amps tick. I love to dabble in what makes things tick;)
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • thall
    thall Posts: 25
    edited January 2009
    OBI56 wrote: »
    Hi to Dreamer, Steve Ford, Thall, F1-nut, ViperZ, Stereo-Dog, ZootHorn, GDB, Skip and Engtaz and Snow. I'm here now to drive you nuts once again!

    Hi back at you OBI. Nice to hear from you again.

    Bummin about the shutdown. I had just gotten a PM notice about
    the manuals I was looking for. Looks like I'm gonna have to keep
    looking. If GregW is out there somewhere....I didn't get your PM.
    thall
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  • FA - Q
    FA - Q Posts: 41
    edited January 2009
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Just cruised over to the Carver forum a second ago. There is now a link to "the story" What is written below is what the link says.....

    For those looking for answers... here it is.

    The forum has been closed due to someone making numerous threats of coming to FL and bringing
    "The Boys" to take care of us...
    I have much more important things to do with my time than worry about some psycho and what he's going to do.

    The forum was supposed to be FUN... Well it's not any more, It's work, and then, throw a couple **** in the mix... makes me not even want to bother with it.

    If and when I decide to set the forum back up, there will be NEW RULES.
    I don't have time for this childish crap, and will not tolerate it.


    -nice spin james and daves...i offered to take my g/f to FL.....so she could visit her mother and i could maybe pu my whats left of my speaker parts <gasp>

    -i have a cancelled cheque for 1000.oo / ups rcpt [insured for 1,500.oo] / telephone records that prove ive tried my best cordially...i can have the housemouse scan these n/p

    -if you produce pm's that differ...you *EDITED them

    -ive know my banker since i was 17...shes handle my Beloved Father's POA/ PA and Executorships for me...must i get her involved...no-charge buddy


    -i know you are reading these posts

    -your Forum will not recover after a month

    -as posted here earlier 'PAY UP SUCKERS'


    -love/mx
    -"Don't BAN me Bro!"
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    thall wrote: »
    Hi back at you OBI. Nice to hear from you again.

    Bummin about the shutdown. I had just gotten a PM notice about
    the manuals I was looking for. Looks like I'm gonna have to keep
    looking. If GregW is out there somewhere....I didn't get your PM.

    Which manuals were they again Thall? If it was for the C-1, I'm still waiting for that one myself from the manuals guy on the old forum. I do have a whole bunch of manuals that I bought a few years ago that I am more than happy to share with anyone who asks. I should create a list of them so people can see if I have what they are looking for.
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • FA - Q
    FA - Q Posts: 41
    edited January 2009
    -*EDIT;

    -cheque and ups rcpt's dated 07/24/07


    -i did relay i would post this in the 'bad sellers' forum

    -BAN me but...one shouldnt make ALL members suffer



    -go slo/mx
    -"Don't BAN me Bro!"
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  • seeclear
    seeclear Posts: 1,242
    edited January 2009
    SteveFord wrote: »
    , I think he'd make a nice lump in a boa constrictor.

    I don't care who you are, that there's funny.:D:D:D
    "Don't forget to change your politician. They are like diapers they need to be changed regularly, and for the same reason."
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  • OBI56
    OBI56 Posts: 10
    edited January 2009
    seeclear wrote: »
    I don't care who you are, that there's funny.:D:D:D

    Seeclear, what makes it even funnier is that he actually DOES own a boa constrictor and various lizards ..... :rolleyes:
    Main system: Sunfire 300x2, CityPulse DA7.2x, Oppo DV-980H, MIT MT-330-S2 ICs, MIT AVt-3 speaker cables, Canare Bis ICs
    Bedroom system: Technics Class A integrated amp, Polk RTi-A1, Polk PSW-505, 3A Apog
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 18,987
    edited January 2009
    Something else is going on. I don't buy what I'm hearing behind the scenes.

    Sorry for not calling those whom I said I would call. Life got in front of me. I'll TTY soon enough. 'Till then...........
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • dreamer
    dreamer Posts: 6
    edited January 2009
    Maybe the NWO thugs got to 'em, and demanded they shut down the forum because of my conspiracy-laden posts...

    [Yoda Voice ON]
    Hitting a little too close to home, perhaps I was... :D
    [Yoda Voice OFF]
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  • Toy Maker
    Toy Maker Posts: 16
    edited January 2009
    I had/have no intention of dragging this crap over to these poor guys forum at all... This will be my 1 and only post here...
    Enjoy the circus show everyone.

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________


    Ok Maxx... I don't care about your banker, whatever.

    The phone conversation you and I had the other night was nothing short of a outright threat against my father of you coming to Cape Coral..
    You also brought up the topic of your guns being bigger and badder than my fathers, MANY times. (get some help man)
    You can clean it up, and smooth it over on here, but I listened to your hour and a half long threatening rant, I know what was said.

    As I told you on the phone many times, I had no idea there was even an issue with your ribbons. I offered to try to help the situation by offering you 3 BRAND NEW ribbons from my personal inventory.
    About $1,500 out of my own pocket, to help resolve this situation, and to help my father out.
    Right after that I hear you mouthing off to other members about how you are going to bad mouth me on my own forum, as part of this clusterf**k...
    As far as I'm concerned, you shot yourself in the foot there buddy. I am getting out of the middle of this, and the 2 of you can resolve the issue yourselves however you 2 see fit.

    I am in no way making excuses for my father, and the time it has/is taking him. I however would have sent them back to you, the minute they arrived, after you were SPECIFICALLY told how to pack them... after which you said something to the effect of, They are already packed, and you weren't going to repack them again...
    I saw the box, and the ribbons when they arrived, all 3 were stuck together, with a thin sheet of bubble wrap between them, which had been shredded to sh** by the nuts and bolts, which also gouged the faces of all 3 ribbons to the point of almost being worthless. Not to mention, the metal frames being bent to hell, because there was no padding at the ends. With them weighing around 80 pounds together, all in the same box, and being bounced, and slammed around from MI to FL, every single magnet had broken loose, and the majority of them now broken, adding another $3 per magnet to the cost of repairing them. With about 50 magnets per ribbon x3 ribbons, that's about $450 worth of magnets that have to be replaced...
    Why not file a claim right?? What's the point, they would look at the packing job you did, and decline it anyway... He was going to be nice, and do the 5x extra work you created for him, buy not packing them correctly in the 1st place, the way he told you to.
    With the personal issues he's having and the piss poor job you did packing the ribbons... I'm surprised he didn't just send them back to you. I would have.

    The way I see it, you have a choice... Be patient and wait for him to fix them, or ask him to return them with a refund. Threats will get you nowhere.
    From now on, keep me out of it, I regret ever trying to help you in this situation, and will not offer it again.

    Below are photos of your ribbons when he opened the box.

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________

    OBi...

    Yes I am SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW... we all know it...
    But everyone also knows, I have never stolen a dime from anyone, and NO ONE (but Tom maybe) has put more time or $$ into everything CarverAudio/CarverFest than myself.
    Bashing me won't make me any faster, (if anything, it will drag things out longer) but you can try it if you like, who knows.
    Sorry I missed the $20 for shipping, I didn't see it, it must have been a separate payment, I'll go backand look for it, and refund that one as well.

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________


    To everyone else,
    Thank you for all the positive emails, phone calls and words of encouragement.
    We'll just have to see how this plays out...

    Goodnight people... See you around possibly.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,459
    edited January 2009
    Ok, this is getting way out of hand. Everyone take a break, get some sleep and let's hope that clearer heads prevail tomorrow. Until then, it stops here.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • FA - Q
    FA - Q Posts: 41
    edited January 2009
    -TM; those look like a normal 'staged' repair shop photos ...where are my shipping boxes...oh you were right there too :rolleyes:

    -why was i not imediately informed w/ pics so i could lay a claim ???

    -i would help my Father irregardless, no matter what he did !!!


    -the rest of your post iz total BS...you are spin docter and know it


    -you are a fabricator extrodinare of the highest order, sadly


    -who would ever trust your name again

    -guns, yeah im gonna hop a plane from detroit to FL. w/a concealed weapon

    -get real james...man up

    -and again 'PAY UP SUCKERS'
    -"Don't BAN me Bro!"
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