Bose

inspiredsports

I did just have an "on topic" thought. I like to plug a set of headphones into a component to troubleshoot and compare its output to what's coming out of the speaker system. I know my 321 system has no headphone jack so it's not possible to make this comparison and that's a problem.

Igo

TheMARPATNinja7 wrote: »

Basically, a buddy of mine and myself are both home auidophiles. We both have great home setups, he has a Bose LifeStyle (26 or 27 Series?) and I have a fully customized 7.1 set-up (Denon Reciever, Sony SS-U501 Towers, Polk Csi3 Center Channel, Pioneer Surrounds). He always insists that his Bose sounds better just because it says "Bose" on it. I respectfully disagree. I put a lot of time and money into my system and find it strange how he thinks his is better since the sound quality of mine is so much more natural and dynamic. Anyways, is he right? Now I know you can't really say much without hearing them both, but what does Bose offer that makes their speakers "so superior?"

oooh. Oh. Ahhhh. Hmmmmm.
Hang around fer a bit.

RutgersFTW

inspiredsports wrote: »

I did just have an "on topic" thought. I like to plug a set of headphones into a component to troubleshoot and compare its output to what's coming out of the speaker system. I know my 321 system has no headphone jack so it's not possible to make this comparison and that's a problem.

Ouch. What's your workaround for headphone use, or do you just stick to iPod/phone/etc?

George Grand

TheMARPATNinja7 wrote: »

I was just joking George no need for the hate.....and I guarentee you....I'm no noob.

You have 23 posts and joined here less than two months ago.

MHayes

George Grand wrote: »

You have 23 posts and joined here less than two months ago.

I believe he was referring to not being a noob in terms of audio, not CP. And believe me, post count does not dictate how much someone knows....even though a lot like to believe that.

dkg999

MHayes wrote: »

I believe he was referring to not being a noob in terms of audio, not CP. And believe me, post count does not dictate how much someone knows....even though a lot like to believe that.

However, post count and length of time on this forum, as well as your ability to successfully socialize within an internet community does correllate to whether anyone believes you know something about audio. Knowledge without the skill to successfully communicate and socialize it is wasted knowledge.

Jstas

AWWWWW....MAN! I read this whole thread, missed out on the "argument" and now my **** feels small!

You guys suck!




For the record, if you are gonna declare yourself an expert on something here, you'd better furnish some level or proof of your qualifications for such status, preferably fully annotated with bibliographical references. Cross-referencing scores bonus points!

Gaara

Jstas wrote: »

AWWWWW....MAN! I read this whole thread, missed out on the "argument" and now my **** feels small!

I wish I could use that as a sig.

MHayes

dkg999 wrote: »

However, post count and length of time on this forum, as well as your ability to successfully socialize within an internet community does correllate to whether anyone believes you know something about audio. Knowledge without the skill to successfully communicate and socialize it is wasted knowledge.

And yes, I would agree with that statement.

strider

Jstas wrote: »

AWWWWW....MAN! I read this whole thread, missed out on the "argument" and now my **** feels small!

Gaara wrote: »

I wish I could use that as a sig.

I say go for it. Purely scientific, IMO.

I think this would be more sig worthy, however:

dkg999 wrote: »

However, post count and length of time on this forum, as well as your ability to successfully socialize within an internet community does correllate to whether anyone believes you know something about audio. Knowledge without the skill to successfully communicate and socialize it is wasted knowledge.

I'm not certain I've ever heard it put better.

zombiemusic

I would never say that Bose sucks. I have had 901's and they were amazing, they got me into this whole audio love, besides the love of music of course. I will have to say that I dont like some of their stuff (I dont really care for their 201 or 301's, in that situation i would say they are a bit overpriced). But for a smaller room their cubes would be fine. and I still say that the Bose 901's though have their weak aspects, I dont think you could ever say they suck or their don't sound good. they are an impressive speaker. And if you ever think about it, most of the time you are paying for the name on anybrand no matter what the brand is.

bluecomet

I have Bose 901's series 4 and 6. Series 4 were made in the early 80's. They sound decent with records. The series 6 were upgraded and sound o.k. with CD's. They were updated in the early 90's. Are they worth 1,300.00 dollars today. No. Are they worth 250.00 dollars I bought them for, yes. Compare that to my Polk SDA SRS 2's. They were made in the late 80's and are comparible or better than most speakers of today and most guys are willing to travel great distances to get them. There are Bose haters because of the Bose marketing that touts that they are the best. All brands are going to say that or they are not going to sell many speakers. Many things are involved as mentioned in a good sounding speaker, from the speaker itself to room acoustics. If you sit back a lesson to your favorite music and the sound puts a smile on your face then guess what it is a good speaker no matter who made it. The biggest smile I get is from Polk speakers.

BrettT1

...with 1200+ wpc and the Bose were very clear sounding speakers, however, they didn't have NEAR the highs or lows the Polks had. I have no idea what year the 901s were from. The Polks were from 1991. Try it for yourself, if you have the opportunity, and tell me what you hear.

I'm not trying to rip on anyones' stuff, I just did A/B once.:)

Brett

bluecomet

No doubt the Polks are better. I need the Bose so I can lesson to something in the garage. I am not putting my Polk SDA's out there.

inspiredsports

RutgersFTW wrote: »

Ouch. What's your workaround for headphone use, or do you just stick to iPod/phone/etc?

No, I have Sennheiser's and everything done right with my Polk/NAD 2-channel rigs. The veiled point I was trying to make is that I just realized Bose may not want the user to be able to compare the 321's sound to headphone sound. A headphone to speaker comparison can point out problems.

2goldenears

I have polk and I have Bose. In my main livingroom I have a harman kardon receiver AVR125 hooked to Bose 301V front Vcs 10 center and 201V rear. I have yet to surpass the sound of this system for sheer musical bliss with anything else including my polk rm6880. Those who bash bose do not know what they are talking about. People talk about paper cones and cheap materials do not have a clue. Some of the most expensive speakers in the world use paper and foam for speaker materials because they sound more natural,more like real music.These materials are light and responsive and always will be. They also have more low level resolution than polymer cones.Arent we all in this hobby for the music? Don't some of the newer polk speakers throw sound in more than one direction like bose do? People educate yourselves before you blow smoke.Bose has always had and always will have a good speaker for the money! I dont give a s#@t what anyone else thinks!

zombie boy 2000

Freakin' A...
Ricardo, I echo your sentiment in saying "fAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWKKKK!!!"

Forget using the Search to find out whether or not you need an Oinker or an HK. How about some effin' humor. El Doucherino above is the EXACT reason I rarely post any more.

Jesus H Christirino on a pogo stick.

Retro152

2goldenears wrote: »

I have polk and I have Bose. In my main livingroom I have a harman kardon receiver AVR125 hooked to Bose 301V front Vcs 10 center and 201V rear. I have yet to surpass the sound of this system for sheer musical bliss with anything else including my polk rm6880. Those who bash bose do not know what they are talking about. People talk about paper cones and cheap materials do not have a clue. Some of the most expensive speakers in the world use paper and foam for speaker materials because they sound more natural,more like real music.These materials are light and responsive and always will be. They also have more low level resolution than polymer cones.Arent we all in this hobby for the music? Don't some of the newer polk speakers throw sound in more than one direction like bose do? People educate yourselves before you blow smoke.Bose has always had and always will have a good speaker for the money! I dont give a s#@t what anyone else thinks!

BOSE: Behind on Stereo Education.

2goldenears

to each their own ,BOSE IS THE BEST!

2goldenears

When you boys are ready for some serious audio conversation on speakers let me know. Amar Bose has always had a good ear for music and his speakers show it. The 301V for example is a modern classic!

MikeC78

Where do you people come from???

ZOOPDOOP22

2goldenears wrote: »

When you boys are ready for some serious audio conversation on speakers let me know. Amar Bose has always had a good ear for music and his speakers show it. The 301V for example is a modern classic!

I'm ready. Please golden ears show me what else I've been missing all my life.

And.. Did you join (or make a 2nd account) just for posting about your love for Bose on this thread? Clearly you don't have many supporters.

sucks2beme

2goldenears wrote: »

When you boys are ready for some serious audio conversation on speakers let me know. Amar Bose has always had a good ear for music and his speakers show it. The 301V for example is a modern classic!

I Have spent time with Bose ,Polks, and others. I had a small set up for a short time with a VCS10 and a pair of 201's. It stunk. The VCS10 is the worst center known to man. Good news is I dumped the whole mess for no loss to a "Bose" kind of guy. I almost felt guilty. The only thing good about Bose is it's easy to sell. I can't even describe my scorn for their headphones. I don't think I have a pair of cans in the house that doesn't sound better. I've got Polk for HT, Hales for 2 channel. And if your idea of classic
is a pair of 301's, go back to the mall from whence you came.

ZOOPDOOP22

Oh sorry golden ears. I realized you joined a year ago.. I have a problem letting go. Respec. Why are 3 of your posts here. Just a reader huh?

comfortablycurt

Wow...I don't know how I missed this thread.

I'm not a fan of Bose...at all. It's kinda funny really...anyone ever hear of the white van scam? A scam where people try to sell speakers to someone out of the backs of vans and trucks...they say they're really good speakers...they're just like a Bose system...things like that. I ended up buying one of these systems a few years back...because I wanted a surround sound and didn't have the money to buy an expensive one. So a guy comes walking up to me...asking if I want to buy them...I look at them, and he's showing me the price tag on the box...which says 2900 dollars!!:eek: Which is a load of crap:rolleyes:

So anyway...he tries selling them to me for 900 dollars at first...we haggle for a little bit, and I end up talking him down to 80 dollars...lol

The speakers in it are basically identical to the speakers in the Acoustimass systems. Little junky plastic satellites, but the frequency response of them will blow the Bose's away. The subwoofer will blow away the Bose too. A few weeks go by, and one of my friends buys a bose system for like 1400 dollars. I go over to his house and check it out...and it looks basically identical to the system I'd paid 80 bucks for. He turns it on...sounds like ****. It had no lows...no highs, some really crazy sounding warped midrange. My 80 dollar parking lot system blew it out of the water.

How much does it even cost to produce a Bose system? Like 40 dollars? 30?

Bose=Box Of **** Equipment

ZOOPDOOP22

comfortablycurt wrote: »

He turns it on...sounds like ****. It had no lows...no highs, some really crazy sounding warped midrange. My 80 dollar parking lot system blew it out of the water.
Bose=Box Of **** Equipment

But wait!! THEY WERE NOT EVEN BROKEN IN YET!!!!!

Oh wait..

heiney9

Yeah, but if Paul Harvey says they're the best........................that's hard to argue with. I mean come on a 90 year old radio personality that probably is old enough to have been around Tesla. He states they sound exquisite, and sound better than anything out there.

What more does one need to make a decision.

Igo

oh wel if Paul Harvey said it...where can I get one?

TheMARPATNinja7

George Grand wrote: »

You have 23 posts and joined here less than two months ago.

23 posts and joining a month ago only means that I started talking to people on this website recently, I've been installing, tweaking and producing not only home audio but also concert, studio and car audio for about the last 10 years of my life.

ANYWAYS

I finally was able to get over there and compare systems again after getting mine squared away and here's what I got.

The first thing I watched was "Linkin Park Live in Texas." This is my favorite hard rock concert to watch on my system because it is so well mixed. On the Bose, highs were incredibly harsh and muddy. At times the sound of the singers hurt my ears. The lows were either muddy or non-existent depending on the frequency. I seriously didn't hear notes on the Bose that I normally hear on my system.

The next thing I watched was "Black Hawk Down" on Blu-Ray. The Blu-Ray audio sounded great (even though it wasn't any kind of HDMI audio). The Bose had a very good surround effect and still managed to produce clear sound but.....it couldn't be played at my preferred volume without distortion. Gunshots and explosions lacked the overall power and sometimes the seperation between speakers was a bit over the top.

IN THE END-Music on the Bose sounded like absolute garbage while I was not dissapointed with the quality of Blu-Ray movies on the system. I still believe my custom job produces cleaner and just flat out more power. Also, the Bose lacked bass and I am a bassaholic. But if someone who was not serious about audio asked me to reccommend a system for movies I wouldn't cross Bose off the list. They are not even close to being my first reccomendation but if they want a quick install and simple system I wouldn't stop them. Though I would highly advise them to find a more economical solution ($1,200 sure ain't a steal.)

2goldenears

I have polk and I have Bose. In my main livingroom I have a harman kardon receiver AVR125 hooked to Bose 301V front Vcs 10 center and 201V rear. I have yet to surpass the sound of this system for sheer musical bliss with anything else including my polk rm6880. Those who bash bose do not know what they are talking about. People talk about paper cones and cheap materials do not have a clue. Some of the most expensive speakers in the world use paper and foam for speaker materials because they sound more natural,more like real music.These materials are light and responsive and always will be. They also have more low level resolution than polymer cones.Arent we all in this hobby for the music? Don't some of the newer polk speakers throw sound in more than one direction like bose do? People educate yourselves before you blow smoke.Bose has always had and always will have a good speaker for the money!:)