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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2009
    I don't want to think about that cause it involves far too much thinking.

    I have enough great stereo and sunglasses to last me until way after I kick. Let somebody else sweat the small stuff.
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  • ZOOPDOOP22
    ZOOPDOOP22 Posts: 158
    edited January 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    I don't want to think about that cause it involves far too much thinking.

    I have enough great stereo and sunglasses to last me until way after I kick. Let somebody else sweat the small stuff.

    Not to mention how bad this thread digressed after my analogy. And yeah I fed the fire.. but I feel like were just beating a dead horse with this one.
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  • TheMARPATNinja7
    TheMARPATNinja7 Posts: 150
    edited January 2009
    sdschwendener wrote: »
    Not to mention how bad this thread digressed after my analogy.

    Yeah, I just wanted to learn a little about Bose and I also got a brief history of sunglasses.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2009
    inspiredsports wrote: »
    Hey Shack,

    You've been around a while. What components do you like for a $1,200-$1,300 5.1 system?

    One of these at $400...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/LSiC-Center-Channel-Loudspeakers-Black_W0QQitemZ360113604003QQihZ023QQcategoryZ3276QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

    two pairs of these at an average SOLD price of $250 per pair = $500...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/LSi7-Ebony-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-pair_W0QQitemZ230318320140QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3276QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

    and one of these at $349...

    http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

    Total 5.1 system cost = $1,249.

    If anyone tells you Bose has a system...at any price...to top this one...they might as well just buy a $250 Sony HTIB and be done with it...cause it won't matter.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

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  • be83663
    be83663 Posts: 192
    edited January 2009
    Bose system has a use too.
    I will use Bose systems, one for my kitchen and another one for my bathroom theatre systems, because they are compact and easy to hook up.
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  • Retro152
    Retro152 Posts: 985
    edited January 2009
    Yawn!!!!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited January 2009
    Chevy-Good....Ford-Suck !!!:p
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2009
    Bose lost every blind test I gave vs small Polk or Infinity speakers. People couldn't believe they didn't pick Bose.
    Never Forget
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited January 2009
    shack wrote: »
    One of these at $400... Total 5.1 system cost = $1,249.

    Nice work. That's the kind of intel, a serious recommendation from a guy with 7,000+ posts of experience, that will help the original poster educate his Bose friend to maybe come around and check out what Polk and others have to offer.
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2009
    TheMARPATNinja7 wrote: »
    Yeah, I just wanted to learn a little about Bose and I also got a brief history of sunglasses.

    Well to you and all the other newbs.......

    We've been discussing Bose for the last ten years that I've been here. Use the search function if you don't like some of the responses. On the other hand, as far as I know, we've never had a discussion regarding quality eyewear.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2009
    that is likely true GG, but we have discussed quality underwear.

    Oh yea, and bose blose.

    RT1
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  • NotaSuv
    NotaSuv Posts: 3,864
    edited January 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    Well to you and all the other newbs.......

    We've been discussing Bose for the last ten years that I've been here. Use the search function if you don't like some of the responses. On the other hand, as far as I know, we've never had a discussion regarding quality eyewear.

    10 years thats fantastic but sadly alot of us newbies havent

    Search function sucks on this forum, as does the edit or lack of edit feature.. but both not a reason to leave


    Every board has the old timer who acts as our Georgie does, well someone needs to play the role....and being from NJ who would be better than Georgie

    I actually get a good laugh from his posts...........thanks Georgie and I'm sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to read your next post





    opppppps forgot I am on the ignore list :rolleyes:
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2009
    The search function works very well...if you know how to use it.
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited January 2009
    NotaSuv wrote: »
    10 years thats fantastic but sadly alot of us newbies havent

    Search function sucks on this forum, as does the edit or lack of edit feature.. but both not a reason to leave


    Every board has the old timer who acts as our Georgie does, well someone needs to play the role....and being from NJ who would be better than Georgie

    I actually get a good laugh from his posts...........thanks Georgie and I'm sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to read your next post





    opppppps forgot I am on the ignore list :rolleyes:

    Looks like George has a stalker....
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  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited January 2009
    Advanced search is where its at.
    Never Forget
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  • strider
    strider Posts: 2,568
    edited January 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    I also have a background in eyeglasses. Perhaps not a degree in lensology or anything like that, but right around 1972 I was grinding lenses for Brookhaven Opticians in Smithtown, Long Island. One of only two jobs I've ever been "dismissed" from in fact. I still have a lot of stuff that I ground for myself back then including RB style teardrops. I also had a monocle that I ordered for myself, but gave it away to a one-eyed navigator not long ago.

    Did you ever finish that post you started about getting canned a while back? IIRC you left us hanging.....
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  • maximillian
    maximillian Posts: 2,145
    edited January 2009
    Advanced search or use google and add "site: polkaudio.com" to the end of your search. BTW, remove the space between the : and p (forum thought it was a smiley).
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited January 2009
    Why do I NOT feel like apologizing for ruining some clown's Polk Forum experience?

    Sorry that we stayed and shaped this place into one of the best forums on the internet. Feel free to depart anytime you like asshat. My mom and some other girls are the only ones to ever call me Georgie. You fit right in.
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited January 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    asshat

    LOL. I like that. Permission to use that expression on those I deem it appropriate sir?
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  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited January 2009
    It boils down to one thing Bose will never get respect on any well known audiosite period. And you can take that to the bank. A few vintage products may get the old well it was good 20 years ago but other than that expect no respect for that product rocks will be thrown everytime.
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  • TheMARPATNinja7
    TheMARPATNinja7 Posts: 150
    edited January 2009
    George Grand wrote: »
    Well to you and all the other newbs.......

    We've been discussing Bose for the last ten years that I've been here. Use the search function if you don't like some of the responses. On the other hand, as far as I know, we've never had a discussion regarding quality eyewear.

    I was just joking George no need for the hate.....and I guarentee you....I'm no noob.
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  • MHayes
    MHayes Posts: 42
    edited January 2009
    shack wrote: »
    One of these at $400...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/LSiC-Center-Channel-Loudspeakers-Black_W0QQitemZ360113604003QQihZ023QQcategoryZ3276QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

    two pairs of these at an average SOLD price of $250 per pair = $500...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/LSi7-Ebony-Bookshelf-Loudspeakers-pair_W0QQitemZ230318320140QQihZ013QQcategoryZ3276QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

    and one of these at $349...

    http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/stf-2.html

    Total 5.1 system cost = $1,249.

    If anyone tells you Bose has a system...at any price...to top this one...they might as well just buy a $250 Sony HTIB and be done with it...cause it won't matter.

    Nice, but you seemed to have left out the components to drive those speakers.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited January 2009
    Montoya wrote: »
    It boils down to one thing Bose will never get respect on any well known audiosite period. And you can take that to the bank. A few vintage products may get the old well it was good 20 years ago but other than that expect no respect for that product rocks will be thrown everytime.

    Bose doesn't deserve any respect when it comes to audio......you can take that to the bank!

    They have a so-so product that they use borderline deceptive advertising on to convince the sheep that the product is superior, when it's clearly not.

    It fits for some people who don't give a crap about decent sound and prefer aesthetics over any other feature.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited January 2009
    MHayes wrote:
    Nice, but you seemed to have left out the components to drive those speakers.

    I don't believe that is what the person who posed the question to me was wanting. I took it to mean I was to come up with a 5.1 SPEAKER package to compete with Bose's top of the line acoustimass "speaker system" that retails for $1,300. That would be the LOGICAL assumption since none of the Bose Lifestyle Systems (which include the electronic components) retail for less than $1,700. We could certainly go that route however....

    I found quite a few used 5.1 AVRs of various brands (Denon, HK, Yamaha, Onkyo) listed as in very good condition for under $50 (sold) on ebay. Pick any one and you still have a better system for under $1,300 than anything Bose sells IMO. A good example...

    Denon 2802 AVR...6 bids, current price $21

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Mint-Denon-AVR-2802-6-1-channel-540-Watt-Receiver_W0QQitemZ260342247584QQcmdZViewItemQQptZReceivers_Tuners?hash=item260342247584&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited January 2009
    Hey Nota do you really think your making friends, lets see first F1 and now GG???

    You see Grand already got his, seems your still trying to get yours, but it is looking doubtful as far as CP is concerned.

    Please feel free to add me to your list, face it though, we have seen lots come and go here and your circling the drain.

    RT1
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  • suprafantx
    suprafantx Posts: 249
    edited January 2009
    I tried Bose Lifestyle 28 before. It is suck. Returned.
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  • Montoya
    Montoya Posts: 506
    edited January 2009
    It would more than likely be a fact that the system you spec'd would be better than the Blose system blind test or actual measurment testing would prove it. And pretty much everyone here knows that for a fact. My old Polk RM-6750/PSW-505 with a old school Onkyo receiver that I had back in the days would do better and that I know is a fact.
    shack wrote: »
    I don't believe that is what the person who posed the question to me was wanting. I took it to mean I was to come up with a 5.1 SPEAKER package to compete with Bose's top of the line acoustimass "speaker system" that retails for $1,300. That would be the LOGICAL assumption since none of the Bose Lifestyle Systems (which include the electronic components) retail for less than $1,700. We could certainly go that route however....

    I found quite a few used 5.1 AVRs of various brands (Denon, HK, Yamaha, Onkyo) listed as in very good condition for under $50 (sold) on ebay. Pick any one and you still have a better system for under $1,300 than anything Bose sells IMO. A good example...

    Denon 2802 AVR...6 bids, current price $21

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Mint-Denon-AVR-2802-6-1-channel-540-Watt-Receiver_W0QQitemZ260342247584QQcmdZViewItemQQptZReceivers_Tuners?hash=item260342247584&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited January 2009
    There's wisdom in the messages of GG, Shack, and RT1 that should be understood and heeded, if not downright revered.
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  • Hilbert
    Hilbert Posts: 316
    edited January 2009
    I'm beginning to understand why the Bose web site doesn't have a forum. :)
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  • HHStuart
    HHStuart Posts: 263
    edited January 2009
    Hobbyguy wrote: »
    Interesting and pleasing. I was looking for new speakers to replace my cheap best buy set. Was deciding between Bose 901 or Polk LIS-15. Well pulled the trigger for LSI-15 but also purchased SDA-1B and a set of 10Bs. Have the 10Bs now and they sound GREAT! Can't wait to get my LSIs and SDAs. This thread confirms my decision!

    I compared Bose 901's with Polk SDA 2's 20 years ago and was amazed at how much better the Polk's were. The Bose speakers weren't even close. I doubt if they have gotten much better. I recently got Polk LSI 15's when a audio chain up here (Tweeters) got liquidated and they are amazing speakers. You will love them.
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