I love my American car

bigaudiofanatic

disneyjoe7 wrote: »

America is still making Junk I said it.


And if they truly don't they burnt some many bridges behind them no one cares anymore, why because they brought a Honda, Toyota and been happy since.

Now saying that should the America Car manufactures fail, should they fail I say not. Can I support them no, do I feel I should support them no.

Agree with ya man and neons if that is someones impresesion of a "good american car" let me start laughing now.

Kex

Jstas wrote: »

... This is NOT 1978, this is NOT 1988. This is 2008 and if you think that American car companies are still making "junk cars" then you're an idiot and you've been blind for about 10, maybe even 15 years with your outdated and misinformed opinions. ...

Actually, it's not hard to keep up to date when you drive rentals from time to time. IMHO, and it's JMO, so don't get excited or anything, but I think the American mid-size cars offered by rental companies are not equivalent to a mid-size Hyundai offered by the same rental companies.

I tried to buy American just two years ago. It was impossible because I couldn't get the options I wanted unless I bought the V8 version, not the V6. Audi, Saab, Volvo, VW, Acura and Mercedes-Benz all had better options, with half the cost of depreciation for resale.

AsSiMiLaTeD

Kex wrote: »

IMHO, and it's JMO, so don't get excited or anything

LOL, that's like telling the sun NOT to rise in the east tomorrow...

As for American cars not being junk for the last 15 years, let's see my luck:

1996 Dodge Neon we had was a total POS, too many problems to even talk about. Owned two years

1999 Chevy Cavalier was a POS, less problems than the Neon, but still major issues. Owned two years.

Now both cars above were the lower end cars, but both were borderline undriveable within the first 60K miles or so. The AC went out in both cars, which is not a good thing in Texas. The Neon developed transmission problems where it would slip when shifting gears.

How about a Jeep Grand Cherokee, maybe that'll be better than the cheapie cars, we got the limited edition with a 5.9 liter V8. It hauled some major ****! Transmission went out, had to replace the front tie rod twice, still had a popping sound in the front end that nobody ever figured out, and several 'little' problems along the way - all this before the car hit 100K miles! Owned almost 3 years.

I've never owned a Ford, but a guy 3 doors down from us at our last place had his entire house burned to the ground when his F150 burst into flames IN HIS GARAGE! The really messed up part is that it wasn't even running, and luckily nobody was home. Apparently he had a bad cruise control module in his truck, which is what they think caused the fire. I told a guy at work about it and he said his truck had been recalled for the same issue, but apparently the parts they needed to fix it were on severe backorder - their solution, just inplug the cruse control module, or disable it or whatever.

2004 Toyota 4Runner. 100K miles. Absolutely not a single mechanical problem since we've owned it, literally zero problems.

I've always been OCD about taking care of all our cars, both from a maintenance perspective and a cleaning perspective. I've never missed a single oil change or scheduled maintenance item on any of our cars, and we live in the same environment and have driven the same roads with all our vehicles, so we can rule out that kind of stuff as contributing factors.

I'm certainly not saying that my experience applies to everyone or is true universally, it's just MY experience, simple as that. I'd be open to trying another American car someday, but only after I'm satisfied that I won't have reliability problems.

All that being said, recent studies have certainly shown improvement in some American cars, for example Buick is rated right up there with Lexus in terms of defects. I don't know anything about Buick, but I certainly wouldn't rule them out on the basis of reliability at this point, for example...

Frank840

why do you all Only seem to think a NEON is the ONly american car..... like 10 post i see that a Neon is POS Problem here problem there. how the hell are you all having these problems i own the 2004 srt-4 havent had a problem with it got it with 18miles on it only 42k now. MY 2000 Grand prix GTcoupe(miss that car) Never had a problem with it untell i Rearended a Toyota CAMRY Total that camry did 3k worth of damage to my car it was a tank only problem with that was tranny went up like a 3 days after the accident never had a problem out of that i only put like 70k on it. this JEEp that i am Saling FINALY Gave a problem (fuel pump went up) never been in the shop for tranny,Diffs,transfor case, or the engine just altenator had to be replace dam thing has 198 doesnt burn smoke leak any Fluids just only gets like 11mpg lol.

MAYBE somepeople are not just to lucky with cars.. my Eagle Talon (I had 3 of them) I love them cars Turbo 92 body style. Those cars were PROBLEMs before then were giving to the comsumer. All parts were made outside the US expect the Clutch Slave and few odds and ends everything else was Japanese but was Diamond Chyrsler some problems with this car from the Factory- 4g63T motor had Weak Lifters-Oil PRessure Factory was too High for the seals in the Stock 14b Turbos cause them to blow and smoke come out the exhaust.. Transmission i dont even want to start on that but junk. I love them cars tho and every time i see one for cheap i Buy it ... here is my pointless Thoughts on this thread...



and BEN you started another war :eek:

AsSiMiLaTeD

^^^ My eyes and brain hurt from reading that...

Frank840

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

^^^ My eyes and brain hurt from reading that...

that is why i have my G.E.D sorry

bigaudiofanatic

Never will own a neon never want one Honda always and maybe a Toyota.

Frank840

bigaudiofanatic wrote: »

Never will own a neon never want one Honda always and maybe a Toyota.

I here you on that but then i drove the little turbo neon and bought it Fun cars for the money. only honda that appeals to me is the S2000 ( to big for it ) and Accord

bigaudiofanatic

LOL i took a ride in one it was pretty fast a S2000 that is.

Frank840

bigaudiofanatic wrote: »

LOL i took a ride in one it was pretty fast a S2000 that is.

hehe my pos neon tho will rape that s2000

ben62670

My next car is going to be a three seat bicycle:)

American made BTW;)

Frank840

ben62670 wrote: »

My next car is going to be a three seat bicycle:)

American made BTW;)

you going to come pick me up ??? have a little basket so you can deliver cables right :rolleyes:

shadowofnight

ben62670 wrote: »

My next car is going to be a three seat bicycle:)

American made BTW;)

As long as you put clothes pins holding playing cards on the spokes to sound like it has an engine...it'll all be good

Kex

AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »

LOL, that's like telling the sun NOT to rise in the east tomorrow ...

I like reading his posts anyway, so whatever ... and he doesn't always get all excited about other opinions, even if they don't agree with him ...

Does the sun NEVER rise anywhere but in the East?!

bigaudiofanatic

Y right if that neon was next to me i would smoke it with my civic and might not even need the NOS.

Frank840

what part of new jersey are you from how far would you say you are from baltimore. I will love to make a trip up there.

there is only One honda that has beat me it was Civic Hatch 95 dx with a k20a motor swap LSD like 14,000 worth of crap and he barely walk me i hope your putting down at least 300 to the wheels, cause i dont want to make a trip up there to race alittle d16 sohc I save my gas money

bigaudiofanatic

na man a k20 swap is what i got but please save yourself the aggravation of having to tow that piece of crap back home. Plus I only race at atco not on the street.

Frank840

bigaudiofanatic wrote: »

na man a k20 swap is what i got but please save yourself the aggravation of having to tow that piece of crap back home. Plus I only race at atco not on the street.

see now your talking ****. that makes me want to do it more... when does this track close First snow ? i will make a trip on a friday to run you

lol congrats on 1000 post

bigaudiofanatic

Okay okay enough it is probably a fast car so is mine and thats fine but I try not to race anymore it is stupid plus my insurance company progressive is tracking me with this gps thing in my car so I dont need my rates to go up anymore. I need them to go down way down.

Frank840

bigaudiofanatic wrote: »

Okay okay enough it is probably a fast car so is mine and thats fine but I try not to race anymore it is stupid plus my insurance company progressive is tracking me with this gps thing in my car so I dont need my rates to go up anymore. I need them to go down way down.

well my offer still stands I like to come up there jus to go to alantic city. Just a little stock neon

ben62670

I'll take a mustang any day:p

Frank840

ben62670 wrote: »

I'll take a mustang any day:p

I love me a nice mustang fox body. it hurts me to beat most with a neon tho

actually i know someone selling a 88 with truck i dont recall what people call them for 700 bucks no motor has a trans some kind of 3speed glider roll cage 4:10 rear . pretty. Thinking about it.. at that i can get a nicely built 351 winsor for about 2000.. love to run 10's all day

cmy330go

Frank840 wrote: »

hehe my pos neon tho will rape that s2000

Yea...and while you fondle the shifter in your POS Neon, the guy in the S2000 is giving some hot chick a ride. :rolleyes:

It can't even be described how much the S2K outclasses that car.

ben62670

Ah its late I'll post my response. I'll take a slightly modded Mustang over any tuner any day!!!

TouchOfEvil

my car is better than your car cause i said so.
oh wait there trucks.....even better.

TouchOfEvil

Frank840 wrote: »

well my offer still stands I like to come up there jus to go to alantic city. Just a little stock neon
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I don't know of this NEON you speak of....maybe a skittle......:D

GaryZ06

Here is my brief history of cars
1999 Camaro SS....Pretty much flawless
2002 Camaro SS....Pretty much flawless
2001 Corvette Z06..Pretty much flawless

Current cars
2002 Cavalier(5 spd)....Daily driver....Flawless
2006 Corvette Z06.....Pretty much flawless

Hopefully adding a ZR1 soon.

So far my experience with American cars have been very favorable.All my cars have been manuals cause I don't drive auto's.

Frank840

cmy330go wrote: »

Yea...and while you fondle the shifter in your POS Neon, the guy in the S2000 is giving some hot chick a ride. :rolleyes:

It can't even be described how much the S2K outclasses that car.

S2k > then a Neon now Honda had finally done something right..... it is two different class cars Just from looking at spec


S2k has 2004 Model
Control
2.2-Liter VTEC® Engine
237 Horsepower
High X-Bone Monocoque Frame
Beauty
Aerodynamic Shape
Sleek Lines
Chiseled Nose
S2000 CR
Removable Aluminum Hardtop
Track-Oriented Suspension
Front Underbody and Rear Wing Spoilers

now they are nice looking cars they are but I am 6,4" 240 pounds and the s2k is not comfortable to me I hate driving like fred flintstone. now if i was like 5,10" going threw mid life crissies, I may have one for 40,000.....

2004 Neon Srt-4 or Skittle Aka POS to public,4Banger,Hoopdie,and what ever else you could think of.


Standard Engine 2.4L 230 hp I4
Horsepower 230 @ 5300 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 250 @ 2200 RPM
Transmissions 5 Speed
No real fancy options - besides Sunroof,a/c power windows, Kicker Audio System, and nice bucket seats.

This horse power is actually being put to the ground as the S2k is only getting a average of 200 to the wheels,.

it is a affordable car performance wise 21,000 out the door


So I am done defending the Neon... the woman thing if you had any "game" to say you could pick up a nice/good looking girl in a KIA.

bigaudiofanatic

I love when there is a video to go along with my smack talk.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=neon%20vs%20s2000&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#

treitz3

You guys remind me of one night down in SC. I was sitting at a red light when two ricers pull up beside me, one in the fast lane and one in the middle lane. I'm in the slow lane just chillin'. Well, I noticed these two cars are revving their engines and pulling inch by inch up to the line at the start of the intersection. These were both cars with stickers and wings that rose above the height of the roof, and we all know how that increases horsepower. :rolleyes:

So, as I'm sitting there at the intersection for about two minutes I notice that they both now have their windows down and are yelling at each other, pointing down the road as if they were going to race. I figured what the hell? They had not noticed me whatsoever sitting next to them at the intersection, so I would join in the fun.

We all hit the gas when the light turned red and I had already scoped out the area for cops, so it was pedal to the medal. At the next light about a 1/2 mile down the road, I was completely stopped and waiting when they both pulled up. The look on both of their faces was absolutely priceless.

As mentioned before..........I drive a truck.