What Mono Blocks or amp would you get ?

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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    I keep leaning towards the JC1 mono`s

    I will check out the ML`s though
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • jm1
    jm1 Posts: 618
    edited November 2007
    Mr Bear,

    If the "California Bay Area" means San Francisco Bay Area, Audio Vision San Francisco advertised that they have the a system comprised of Simaudio Moon electronics, Dynaudio speakers and Nordost cables. On the accompanying picture, they have the Evolution electronics, the Sapphire speakers and the Odin cables.

    If this place is near by and get a chance to stop by, I would be interested in your impressions of a system comprised of these pieces.

    I would also recommend Simaudio as a choice as these provide a significant level of refinement. The W-5 is dual mono; the W-6 are mono blocks.

    JM
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and third, it is accepted as self evident.
    Arthur Schopenhauer
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited November 2007
    If you are interested in the Halo JC1's, check out this months issue of Stereophile that has a nice long write up on them and the matching preamp.

    I agree that the "right" speakers for you are the fisrt thing to find. The must synergize with the amp/s. I have heard too many very expensive soeaker and amp combos that sound like crap.

    After that, these are the amps I think can compete with anything out there in that price range or higher:

    Mcormack DNA500 - $7K
    Spectron Musician III - $7k
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2007
    dorokusai wrote: »
    Trey - I think your the coolest, young audiophile I know but if your track record of gear ownership didn't fluctuate like a bad light bulb, it might hold more weight for me. Odyssey gear is grossly overbuilt using high level components, nothing more, nothing less. It sounds just like it should, great. I've heard other great amplifiers, or have I missed something groundbreaking?

    I don't get this comment? If it sounds great why avoid it like the plague? I've owned many different Polk speakers in the last year and sold everyone of them. Does that mean we should stay away from Polk speakers?
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,644
    edited November 2007
    Its very much known that Mark dosnt like "flavor of the month" brands --

    Tyler Acoustics, Odyssey -- to him, seemingly dosnt seem to be a worthwhile...

    Odyssey is mind blowing sweet for the money -- I've yet to see anything close to it for the $$$
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
  • del44
    del44 Posts: 686
    edited November 2007
    Alright, I guess I'll ask. Hey Beardog are you selling your bike?:eek:
  • hifibuyguy
    hifibuyguy Posts: 7
    edited November 2007
    JM1 has it right...
    Too me everything has to do with the speakers. There has been many threads/articles written about which piece of the puzzle means the most. For me it's the Speakers that have the Voice so to speak. I would have to find what speaker direction I was going, then worry about the rest of the system.
    I've owned just about everything in Highend audio, working in the industry for many years, I was able to borrow anything my store had on hand. From Meridian, Krell, Classe, B&W..and if we didn't carry it I knew someone who did.
    What Kind of sound do you like...are you a very detailed...let everything (good or bad) come through? or are you more of a Laid-back liquid...tube kind of person...?
    That is what you need to figure out first. You could fall in love with a pair of speakers that are a little forward sounding..but have everything else you want...and pair them with the wrong amp and if could be a match made in hell....
    I have designed a few systems that on paper would be the bee's knee's but in reality had me running form the room..my ears bleeding... Thiel speakers with Krell amp...yikes!!

    I'm rambling on...just my 2 cents
    My Dream...Wilson speakers...Mark Levinson amp..DCS D to A without a preamp...
  • MillerLiteScott
    MillerLiteScott Posts: 2,561
    edited November 2007
    Uh Oh.:rolleyes:
    I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,029
    edited November 2007
    Popcorn's ready and I'm koppin' a squat. This should be funny. :D
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited November 2007
    Its a collection of interdependent parts, remove one and nothing happens. Every piece has a task it must perform in conjuction with the others, I see no one piece being lesser than another, to believe so does not demonstrate a systems approach.

    RT1
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited November 2007
    hifibuyguy wrote: »
    I have designed a few systems that on paper would be the bee's knee's but in reality had me running form the room..my ears bleeding... Thiel speakers with Krell amp...yikes!!

    Don't let Ron hear you saying that.:eek:
    rskarvan wrote: »
    My Polk 3.1TL's are fed by a Krell KAV250A (with a KAV250P preamp).

    If only I could afford a set of Thiel 3.6's to match up with my Krell's.
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!
  • hifibuyguy
    hifibuyguy Posts: 7
    edited November 2007
    To each his own I guess..

    My Polk 3.1TL's are fed by a Krell KAV250A (with a KAV250P preamp).

    If only I could afford a set of Thiel 3.6's to match up with my Krell's.

    Everyone has their own idea of what is right
    My Dream...Wilson speakers...Mark Levinson amp..DCS D to A without a preamp...
  • venomclan
    venomclan Posts: 2,467
    edited November 2007
    I would like to see how the Krell sounds with the Thiels. I have the same amp and pre Ron uses, they sounded great with my B&W's but not so good with my Gallos. I switched to a Butler Tube/SS hybrid and it was a better combo, more musical. Thiel uses the Butler amps to test their speakers at the factory. It may be a great match.

    B&W Diamond series with Lexicon gear sounded like a Bose Lifestyle system :eek:
    Venom
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    del44 wrote: »
    Alright, I guess I'll ask. Hey Beardog are you selling your bike?:eek:



    Oh, HELL NO...!!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    hifibuyguy wrote: »
    JM1 has it right...
    Too me everything has to do with the speakers. There has been many threads/articles written about which piece of the puzzle means the most. For me it's the Speakers that have the Voice so to speak. I would have to find what speaker direction I was going, then worry about the rest of the system.
    I've owned just about everything in Highend audio, working in the industry for many years, I was able to borrow anything my store had on hand. From Meridian, Krell, Classe, B&W..and if we didn't carry it I knew someone who did.
    What Kind of sound do you like...are you a very detailed...let everything (good or bad) come through? or are you more of a Laid-back liquid...tube kind of person...?
    That is what you need to figure out first. You could fall in love with a pair of speakers that are a little forward sounding..but have everything else you want...and pair them with the wrong amp and if could be a match made in hell....
    I have designed a few systems that on paper would be the bee's knee's but in reality had me running form the room..my ears bleeding... Thiel speakers with Krell amp...yikes!!

    I'm rambling on...just my 2 cents


    I am A detailed , tubey kinda guy.....if that makes sense to anyone other than myself !!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2007
    http://www.iceh2oaudio.com/

    Right now, my dream amp is an ICE-H2O S100. I'm in the process of ordering one right now!

    s100_set1_enlarge1.jpg

    s100_set1_enlarge4.jpg

    Specification
    Power Supply Traditional Toroidal Transform
    Output Power 100watts/200watts into 8/4 ohms
    THD+N 0.09%, 10 < f < 20Khz at 200watts
    Voltage Gain 27dB
    Bandwidth 4Hz-70KHz into 8 ohms
    Minimum Load 2 ohms
    Dynamic Range 112dB
    Inputs Both Single Ended and Balance are available
    Outputs Bridge Balance with Dual Cardas Binding Posts
    Chasis Dimension 14"W x 15"D x 7"H
    Weight 50 lbs net
    Price $2,000.00

    I think the Parasound JC-1 is overpriced for what you get. You can get very similar if not better specs from a smaller brand less costly such as Odyssey or an even larger brand such as McCormack.
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited November 2007
    There is a nice pair of Joule mono's on agon,,,I heard a pair once,, but was quickly escourted out of the room when it was discovered that I did not have the money to pay for them.:)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    I saw those !!

    I actually saw a pair in person when I bought my CDP`s.....

    Awesome looking units...didn`t get to hear them though..

    I re-read the Bryston 6mons article..

    Those may be on the list !!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited November 2007
    A little out of your price range:

    Sanders Sound Systems.

    Kilowatt Monoblock Amplifier.

    sanderskilowatt.jpg

    Within your price range:

    Sanders Sound Systems.

    ESL Monoblock Amplifier.

    ESL20monoamp.jpg
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    have you ever heard any Sanders Prducts ?

    Powerful little monsters
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • halo
    halo Posts: 5,616
    edited November 2007
    beardog03 wrote: »
    have you ever heard any Sanders Prducts ?

    Powerful little monsters

    Yep. I own an ESL amp and a Crossover Amplifier. We used (2) Sanders ESL amplifiers @ the Chicagoland Polkfest to power all the speakers.

    IMG_3506.jpg

    Gobs of power - very little heat.
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    I just read the reveiws on the ICEH2O mono`s....

    Very interesting *in my best hogans Heros voice*

    Those Sanders amps are very nice !!
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2007
    Zero is all about the ICE-H2O S100. He's the one who has me dead set on these.
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited November 2007
    I`m concidering the 250SA Mono`s ...
    Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • hifibuyguy
    hifibuyguy Posts: 7
    edited November 2007
    What about Audio Research? Solid state-ish tube sound!
    My Dream...Wilson speakers...Mark Levinson amp..DCS D to A without a preamp...
  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited November 2007
    Think Long - Think Wrong

    Just get the JCs you won't be sorry.
    polkaudio SRS (rdo194 x 8)
    Dodd ELP (separate power supply)
    JC 1 blocks ( strapped )
    Rega Apollo
    MIT (speaker cables) Outlaw (ICs)

    polkaudio SDA2(rdo194x4) (front) polkaudio CRS (rdo194x4)(rear) polkaudio 400i (center)
    B&K 505
    Samsung LCD
    VIP 622
    HSU STF-2
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2007
    read-alot wrote: »
    Think Long - Think Wrong

    Just get the JCs you won't be sorry.

    Sure, they may sound great, but you could spend less and get even more.
  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited November 2007
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Sure, they may sound great, but you could spend less and get even more.

    That would be your opinion.
    polkaudio SRS (rdo194 x 8)
    Dodd ELP (separate power supply)
    JC 1 blocks ( strapped )
    Rega Apollo
    MIT (speaker cables) Outlaw (ICs)

    polkaudio SDA2(rdo194x4) (front) polkaudio CRS (rdo194x4)(rear) polkaudio 400i (center)
    B&K 505
    Samsung LCD
    VIP 622
    HSU STF-2
  • SolidSqual
    SolidSqual Posts: 5,218
    edited November 2007
    And I am sticking to it. :) Much respect to you.
  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited November 2007
    SolidSqual wrote: »
    Sure, they may sound great, but you could spend less and get even more.

    What would you recommend as lower cost, higher performance replacements for the JC 1 and why?
    Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!