What Mono Blocks or amp would you get ?
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I keep leaning towards the JC1 mono`s
I will check out the ML`s thoughCary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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Mr Bear,
If the "California Bay Area" means San Francisco Bay Area, Audio Vision San Francisco advertised that they have the a system comprised of Simaudio Moon electronics, Dynaudio speakers and Nordost cables. On the accompanying picture, they have the Evolution electronics, the Sapphire speakers and the Odin cables.
If this place is near by and get a chance to stop by, I would be interested in your impressions of a system comprised of these pieces.
I would also recommend Simaudio as a choice as these provide a significant level of refinement. The W-5 is dual mono; the W-6 are mono blocks.
JMAll truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed and third, it is accepted as self evident. -
If you are interested in the Halo JC1's, check out this months issue of Stereophile that has a nice long write up on them and the matching preamp.
I agree that the "right" speakers for you are the fisrt thing to find. The must synergize with the amp/s. I have heard too many very expensive soeaker and amp combos that sound like crap.
After that, these are the amps I think can compete with anything out there in that price range or higher:
Mcormack DNA500 - $7K
Spectron Musician III - $7k -
Trey - I think your the coolest, young audiophile I know but if your track record of gear ownership didn't fluctuate like a bad light bulb, it might hold more weight for me. Odyssey gear is grossly overbuilt using high level components, nothing more, nothing less. It sounds just like it should, great. I've heard other great amplifiers, or have I missed something groundbreaking?
I don't get this comment? If it sounds great why avoid it like the plague? I've owned many different Polk speakers in the last year and sold everyone of them. Does that mean we should stay away from Polk speakers? -
Its very much known that Mark dosnt like "flavor of the month" brands --
Tyler Acoustics, Odyssey -- to him, seemingly dosnt seem to be a worthwhile...
Odyssey is mind blowing sweet for the money -- I've yet to see anything close to it for the $$$- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
Alright, I guess I'll ask. Hey Beardog are you selling your bike?:eek:
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JM1 has it right...
Too me everything has to do with the speakers. There has been many threads/articles written about which piece of the puzzle means the most. For me it's the Speakers that have the Voice so to speak. I would have to find what speaker direction I was going, then worry about the rest of the system.
I've owned just about everything in Highend audio, working in the industry for many years, I was able to borrow anything my store had on hand. From Meridian, Krell, Classe, B&W..and if we didn't carry it I knew someone who did.
What Kind of sound do you like...are you a very detailed...let everything (good or bad) come through? or are you more of a Laid-back liquid...tube kind of person...?
That is what you need to figure out first. You could fall in love with a pair of speakers that are a little forward sounding..but have everything else you want...and pair them with the wrong amp and if could be a match made in hell....
I have designed a few systems that on paper would be the bee's knee's but in reality had me running form the room..my ears bleeding... Thiel speakers with Krell amp...yikes!!
I'm rambling on...just my 2 centsMy Dream...Wilson speakers...Mark Levinson amp..DCS D to A without a preamp... -
Uh Oh.:rolleyes:I like speakers that are bigger than a small refrigerator but smaller than a big refrigerator:D
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Popcorn's ready and I'm koppin' a squat. This should be funny.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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Its a collection of interdependent parts, remove one and nothing happens. Every piece has a task it must perform in conjuction with the others, I see no one piece being lesser than another, to believe so does not demonstrate a systems approach.
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hifibuyguy wrote: »I have designed a few systems that on paper would be the bee's knee's but in reality had me running form the room..my ears bleeding... Thiel speakers with Krell amp...yikes!!
Don't let Ron hear you saying that.:eek:My Polk 3.1TL's are fed by a Krell KAV250A (with a KAV250P preamp).
If only I could afford a set of Thiel 3.6's to match up with my Krell's.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
To each his own I guess..
My Polk 3.1TL's are fed by a Krell KAV250A (with a KAV250P preamp).
If only I could afford a set of Thiel 3.6's to match up with my Krell's.
Everyone has their own idea of what is rightMy Dream...Wilson speakers...Mark Levinson amp..DCS D to A without a preamp... -
I would like to see how the Krell sounds with the Thiels. I have the same amp and pre Ron uses, they sounded great with my B&W's but not so good with my Gallos. I switched to a Butler Tube/SS hybrid and it was a better combo, more musical. Thiel uses the Butler amps to test their speakers at the factory. It may be a great match.
B&W Diamond series with Lexicon gear sounded like a Bose Lifestyle system :eek:
Venom -
Alright, I guess I'll ask. Hey Beardog are you selling your bike?:eek:
Oh, HELL NO...!!Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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hifibuyguy wrote: »JM1 has it right...
Too me everything has to do with the speakers. There has been many threads/articles written about which piece of the puzzle means the most. For me it's the Speakers that have the Voice so to speak. I would have to find what speaker direction I was going, then worry about the rest of the system.
I've owned just about everything in Highend audio, working in the industry for many years, I was able to borrow anything my store had on hand. From Meridian, Krell, Classe, B&W..and if we didn't carry it I knew someone who did.
What Kind of sound do you like...are you a very detailed...let everything (good or bad) come through? or are you more of a Laid-back liquid...tube kind of person...?
That is what you need to figure out first. You could fall in love with a pair of speakers that are a little forward sounding..but have everything else you want...and pair them with the wrong amp and if could be a match made in hell....
I have designed a few systems that on paper would be the bee's knee's but in reality had me running form the room..my ears bleeding... Thiel speakers with Krell amp...yikes!!
I'm rambling on...just my 2 cents
I am A detailed , tubey kinda guy.....if that makes sense to anyone other than myself !!Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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http://www.iceh2oaudio.com/
Right now, my dream amp is an ICE-H2O S100. I'm in the process of ordering one right now!
Specification
Power Supply Traditional Toroidal Transform
Output Power 100watts/200watts into 8/4 ohms
THD+N 0.09%, 10 < f < 20Khz at 200watts
Voltage Gain 27dB
Bandwidth 4Hz-70KHz into 8 ohms
Minimum Load 2 ohms
Dynamic Range 112dB
Inputs Both Single Ended and Balance are available
Outputs Bridge Balance with Dual Cardas Binding Posts
Chasis Dimension 14"W x 15"D x 7"H
Weight 50 lbs net
Price $2,000.00
I think the Parasound JC-1 is overpriced for what you get. You can get very similar if not better specs from a smaller brand less costly such as Odyssey or an even larger brand such as McCormack. -
There is a nice pair of Joule mono's on agon,,,I heard a pair once,, but was quickly escourted out of the room when it was discovered that I did not have the money to pay for them.:)JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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I saw those !!
I actually saw a pair in person when I bought my CDP`s.....
Awesome looking units...didn`t get to hear them though..
I re-read the Bryston 6mons article..
Those may be on the list !!Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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A little out of your price range:
Sanders Sound Systems.
Kilowatt Monoblock Amplifier.
Within your price range:
Sanders Sound Systems.
ESL Monoblock Amplifier.
Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
have you ever heard any Sanders Prducts ?
Powerful little monstersCary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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have you ever heard any Sanders Prducts ?
Powerful little monsters
Yep. I own an ESL amp and a Crossover Amplifier. We used (2) Sanders ESL amplifiers @ the Chicagoland Polkfest to power all the speakers.
Gobs of power - very little heat.Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
I just read the reveiws on the ICEH2O mono`s....
Very interesting *in my best hogans Heros voice*
Those Sanders amps are very nice !!Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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Zero is all about the ICE-H2O S100. He's the one who has me dead set on these.
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I`m concidering the 250SA Mono`s ...Cary SLP-98L F1 DC Pre Amp (Jag Blue)
Parasound HCA-3500
Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
Jolida JD-100 CDP
Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
SVS PC-Ultra Sub
AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
PS Audio Plus Power Cords
Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)
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What about Audio Research? Solid state-ish tube sound!My Dream...Wilson speakers...Mark Levinson amp..DCS D to A without a preamp...
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Think Long - Think Wrong
Just get the JCs you won't be sorry.polkaudio SRS (rdo194 x 8)
Dodd ELP (separate power supply)
JC 1 blocks ( strapped )
Rega Apollo
MIT (speaker cables) Outlaw (ICs)
polkaudio SDA2(rdo194x4) (front) polkaudio CRS (rdo194x4)(rear) polkaudio 400i (center)
B&K 505
Samsung LCD
VIP 622
HSU STF-2 -
Think Long - Think Wrong
Just get the JCs you won't be sorry.
Sure, they may sound great, but you could spend less and get even more. -
SolidSqual wrote: »Sure, they may sound great, but you could spend less and get even more.
That would be your opinion.polkaudio SRS (rdo194 x 8)
Dodd ELP (separate power supply)
JC 1 blocks ( strapped )
Rega Apollo
MIT (speaker cables) Outlaw (ICs)
polkaudio SDA2(rdo194x4) (front) polkaudio CRS (rdo194x4)(rear) polkaudio 400i (center)
B&K 505
Samsung LCD
VIP 622
HSU STF-2 -
And I am sticking to it. Much respect to you.
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SolidSqual wrote: »Sure, they may sound great, but you could spend less and get even more.
What would you recommend as lower cost, higher performance replacements for the JC 1 and why?Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country!