I love the hip hop community!!

ohskigod

the logic here just blows my mind. this is a great little read :rolleyes:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

zombie boy 2000

I think it is infinitely telling when he states:
"It's about business, but it's still also a code of ethics."

I guess even morality is all about the Benjamins.

Early B.

I agree, in many ways, with the rapper. Eff the police! (except Darla).

Don't trust them at all. (A cop recently robbed, on several occasions, the bank branch where I do my banking.) Besides, the street is like the wild west -- you handle your own business and you protect what's yours. To many youth, cops are simply another gang. 'Eff 'em, I say.

Face

Typical piece of ****. I deal with mutts like this all the time.

Demiurge

Early B. wrote: »

I agree, in many ways, with the rapper. Eff the police! (except Darla).

Don't trust them at all. (A cop recently robbed, on several occasions, the bank branch where I do my banking.) Besides, the street is like the wild west -- you handle your own business and you protect what's yours. To many youth, cops are simply another gang. 'Eff 'em, I say.

Watch The Departed one too many times?

shack

Early B. wrote: »

I agree, in many ways, with the rapper. Eff the police! (except Darla).

Don't trust them at all. (A cop recently robbed, on several occasions, the bank branch where I do my banking.) Besides, the street is like the wild west -- you handle your own business and you protect what's yours. To many youth, cops are simply another gang. 'Eff 'em, I say.

What a sad statement.

jdhdiggs

Early B. wrote: »

I agree, in many ways, with the rapper. Eff the police! (except Darla).

Don't trust them at all. (A cop recently robbed, on several occasions, the bank branch where I do my banking.) Besides, the street is like the wild west -- you handle your own business and you protect what's yours. To many youth, cops are simply another gang. 'Eff 'em, I say.

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic....

schwarcw

Sorry if I insult anyone, but I got to ask, would they squell on a white person?

ohskigod

judging from the statement, probably not. looks like no contact with the police under ANY circumstance.

so basically, if you live in the wrong neighborhood, you have NO RIGHT to police protection. Heck, I might even feel there stance if they did a better job of policing there own affairs

jabrax

Am I the only one lost in this thread.....start with an article between obama and lettereman and end up with hip hop and eff the police debate..

Dazed and confused lol

ohskigod

link's bringing you somewhere else I guess. Here's the article

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PLATINUM SELLING RAPPER TELLS '60 MINUTES': WOULDN'T HELP POLICE CATCH EVEN A SERIAL KILLER BECAUSE IT WOULD HURT HIS BUSINESS AND VIOLATE HIS 'CODE OF ETHICS'
Thu Apr 19 2007 12:47:1 ET

Rap star Cam'ron says there's no situation -- including a serial killer living next door -- that would cause him to help police in any way, because to do so would hurt his music sales and violate his "code of ethics." Cam'ron, whose real name is Cameron Giles, talks to Anderson Cooper for a report on how the hip-hop culture's message to shun the police has undermined efforts to solve murders across the country. Cooper's report will be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, April 22 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

"If I knew the serial killer was living next door to me?" Giles responds to a hypothetical question posed by Cooper. "I wouldn't call and tell anybody on him -- but I'd probably move," says Giles. "But I'm not going to call and be like,

Strong Bad

Just waiting to see if Sharpton and Jackson reply to the 60 Minutes interview. My guess is if they do, it won't be close to the pounding they did on Imus. Heaven forbid, those brave courageous Rutgers girls survived that unholy attack he performed on them! :rolleyes:

zombie boy 2000

Actually....
Sharpton and the hip-hop community are engaged in a lil' lover's spat.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2007/04/17/2007-04-17_war_of_words_for_rev_al__rap_execs.html

shack

Strong Bad wrote: »

Just waiting to see if Sharpton and Jackson reply to the 60 Minutes interview. My guess is if they do, it won't be close to the pounding they did on Imus. Heaven forbid, those brave courageous Rutgers girls survived that unholy attack he performed on them! :rolleyes:

Seems no one is referring to their situation as a "tragedy" anymore. Interesting how perspective changes, isn't it?

Early B.

Imagine, for a moment, growing up in this rapper's neighborhood. There are two major dynamics going on when dealing with cops. First, there's the issues of police brutality, harassment, excessive force, imprisoning innocent victims, cops as criminals, etc., that are rampant throughout every major city in the country. Because of this, the lack of trust of police officers is the norm in the 'hood. No doubt. Then there's the issue of retaliation for "ratting" on anyone. In other words, you literally put your life on the line (and the lives of your family) if you snitch. In fact, you have to be extremely careful about being seen talking to a cop. So if both of these dynamics were operating in your neighborhood, what would you do?

AndyGwis

Demiurge wrote: »

Watch The Departed one too many times?

and maybe listening to a little too much NWA as well. . .

Speaking of NWA, was staying "street" a good business decision for Eazy-E (dead), or selling out like Ice Cube (Oshea Jackson) and making millions for cheesy Hollywood movies?

I think Ice Cube being alive and very rich probably shows that "selling out" is the way to go.

Demiurge

I'd do what's right and then I'd move, and yes, it is possible.

MSALLA

It's a big jump from ratting on a friend to not helping with a serial killer. Everyone hates a cop till they need one.

engtaz

Well said

jflail2

Eesh, what an idiot.....Good thing he's a platinum artist spreading and perpetuating those "words of wisdom" in front of a national audience

For clarification Andy, Eazy E died from AIDs, not from "being gangsta." Last time I checked AIDs doesn't just afflict gangstas, gheys and drug addicts......

I understand what you're trying to say, but to blame an AIDs death on "da street" is ridiculous. I'm sure you can correlate the 2 in a roundabout way (ie: lack of education+ always chasin "hos"+no condom use b/c of lack of education= AIDs) but not directly....

Anyhoo.

shack

It's obvious that the "rapper's neighborhoods" will only continue their downward spial when the so called role models who are able to get out because of their success do nothing but perpetuate the climate of hate and lawlessness.

Of course it is that perpetuation of the "norm" that makes them their money.

Face

Sherardp

I like Cam'ron, not sure if I agree with everything he says from an intellectual stand point. I guess when you grew up like allot of these rappers you feel like there is a code to the streets. So in a way I can relate, I wouldnt rat on anyone either. So from his point of view on life, he just makes money, drive murcielagos, and wears 200 million in diamonds. Dipset all day.........check out his music.

wingnut4772

If they don't want to help the police and the murders are increasing in their neighborhoods with no closed cases due to lack of cooperation...? I am not really seeing a growth industry here.

Early B.

wingnut4772 wrote: »

If they don't want to help the police and the murders are increasing in their neighborhoods with no closed cases due to lack of cooperation...? I am not really seeing a growth industry here.

Agreed.

It's also a cop-out (pun intended -- haha) to blame the victim because that doesn't solve the problem. So what do you offer people who appear trapped in a hopeless situation? Ah, my friend, the answer lies in the question...

Bill Ayotte

wingnut4772 wrote: »

If they don't want to help the police and the murders are increasing in their neighborhoods with no closed cases due to lack of cooperation...? I am not really seeing a growth industry here.

Hopefully all the "gangstas" will take them selves out sometime soon......For some reason, a bunch of rich suburban kids now think it is cool to act like a thug....Tell me the commercialization of that lifestyle had nothing to do with it...It is a shame to see how much people set themselves back....

jflail2 wrote: »

Eesh, what an idiot.....Good thing he's a platinum artist spreading and perpetuating those "words of wisdom" in front of a national audience

For clarification Andy, Eazy E died from AIDs, not from "being gangsta." Last time I checked AIDs doesn't just afflict gangstas, gheys and drug addicts......

I understand what you're trying to say, but to blame an AIDs death on "da street" is ridiculous. I'm sure you can correlate the 2 in a roundabout way (ie: lack of education+ always chasin "hos"+no condom use b/c of lack of education= AIDs) but not directly....

Anyhoo.

I don't think he was blaming it on "da streets"........I think he was referring to what you said in the last couple of sentences of your post.....No education is a **** excuse in my opinion, when he was "bangin hos" the AIDS scare was rampant and promoting safe sex was everywhere, not just in school. His death was also portrayed as "gangsta", he went out "thugin it up and bangin hos", not being used as an example of what can happen to you living that type of lifestyle........

ohskigod

Early B. wrote: »

Agreed.

It's also a cop-out (pun intended -- haha) to blame the victim because that doesn't solve the problem. So what do you offer people who appear trapped in a hopeless situation? Ah, my friend, the answer lies in the question...

wouldnt call it a cop out. if the "victim" is not taking proactive steps to get out of the situation (i.e. MOVE!!!!!), then he is responsible for it.

I dont believe in counting on other people to get me out of trouble. The onus of my well being and safety rests ultimatly with me. Not that the Police and what not arent effective tools (at least in my eyes) to assist me in that quest, but if you solely count on the government for your safety and well being, then your effed. plain and simple.

the "victims" will do what they have to do if the juice is worth the squeeze so to speak. If there content living in that situation, then there not going to move (or at least go through what is certainly an immense task to do so)

aaharvel

'hiphop community' is an oxymoron. :rolleyes:

Maurice

I'd luv to jump in this one, but I'll shut the hell up.;)

MacLeod

I remember when NWA and the likes were first coming out. Me and all my friends couldnt figure out how one song was talking about the cops always harassing them, then the next song was about dealing drugs, shooting up malls and killing people. Sounds like the cops are "harassing" the right people!!

TroyD

What a bunch of crap.

I am SO sick and goddamn tired of the POLICE being blamed for the actions of a bunch of lowlife f&*king scumbags.

It's a crock of shiite. 95% of the population is able to live in relative peace and we want to rationalize and defend the actions of a bunch of barbarians? ****. I'm sorry, the world ain't friggin' fair. It's less fair to some than others. That's the way it is, I'm sorry but you know what? Get over it. LOTS of people do and don't use it as an excuse to live like barbarians. Lots of people overcome obstacles of all sorts and better thier situation.

If we ever want to solve problems we need to stop whining. Stop crying, stop blaming. Take responsibility for YOU and yours.

Early, it's people who think like you that guarantee that things won't improve for some people. If you don't believe that people can be better and just accept the status quo, you need to pull your head out of your ****.

BDT