Ben Roethlisburger

Demiurge
Demiurge Posts: 10,874
edited April 2 in Clubhouse Archives
In a serious motorcycle accident...details coming in now.

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Reports from the scene seem to indicate that the accident was serious. According to an eyewitness, Roethlisberger went over his handle bars and hit his head on the windshield of a car. He was not wearing a helmet. The eyewitness reports that Roethlisberger tried to get up, but was bleeding from the head. We'll update the situation as further details become available.
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  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited June 2006
    Oh my god
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited June 2006
    that is NOT good

    hope he is ultimately OK
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2006
    they're talking about it on ESPN radio now...
  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited June 2006
    I heard he wasnt wearing a helmet. Im sure that complicates things.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited June 2006
    MacLeod wrote:
    I heard he wasnt wearing a helmet. Im sure that complicates things.

    Yep, he wasn't. He actually indicated a year or so ago he doesn't like to wear them. I respect people taking responsibility for themselves, but when you make millions in the NFL you might want to rethink that, or better yet...not ride at all.

    I too hope he's okay, I really think he's a good QB. It's at least not life threatening, but it'll be interesting if he'll be out for a while or indefinately.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited June 2006
    yep, no helmet - but I don't think that's required by law. I hear his coach was just warning him about this sort of thing recently...
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited June 2006
    I'll catch heat for this, but I think it was selfish of him to ride without a helmet because he "wanted to". When your making millions, and have teamates and fans counting on you, then there are some things your gonna have to let go. Dont like it? get a 9-5 job, what can I tell ya.

    I'm sure this does not do his team well now that there starting quarterback is potentially out for the season. I mean, thank god he is alive, dont get me wrong, but wear a friggin helmet if your gonna ride. (actually, the same argument could be made for riding a bike overall, but for me, at least wear the damn helmet!)
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  • jdhdiggs
    jdhdiggs Posts: 4,305
    edited June 2006
    I remember the helmet law came up and the Governer said that he "was an Eagles fan" so he wouldn't be supporting it. This was months ago and meant as a joke but someone will get him for it I'm sure. Whole thing is a shame.
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited June 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    Yep, he wasn't. He actually indicated a year or so ago he doesn't like to wear them. I respect people taking responsibility for themselves, but when you make millions in the NFL you might want to rethink that, or better yet...not ride at all.

    I too hope he's okay, I really think he's a good QB. It's at least not life threatening, but it'll be interesting if he'll be out for a while or indefinately.

    yeah, that was ALL over the news here in Pittsburgh a year ago. Never thought something like this would happen, hope he is ok... I'm watching the news right now and they said he is in surgery right now.
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  • Shizelbs
    Shizelbs Posts: 7,433
    edited June 2006
    I hope he recovers and all, but what a dumbass.
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited June 2006
    Ron Gant pulled this stunt with my beloved Braves nearly a decade ago coming off a stellar year....

    He was released and his career plummeted
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  • tommyboy
    tommyboy Posts: 1,414
    edited June 2006
    Shizelbs wrote:
    I hope he recovers and all, but what a dumbass.

    agree, but I don't understand one thing. Why are seatbelts a law but not helmets for motorcycles?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2006
    I just shake my head when I see a helmet, tanktop, shorts and flip flops on a motocyclist....get the gear, or don't ride. That's pathetic and Ben is an idiot.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited June 2006
    dorokusai wrote:
    I just shake my head when I see a helmet, tanktop, shorts and flip flops on a motocyclist....get the gear, or don't ride. That's pathetic and Ben is an idiot.


    in 13 years of EMS, I've seen my share of road rash. I mean the gear you can get actually looks cool. leather, denim both protect well when your sliding down the street. Leather is better than denim, and denim is far better than skin.
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  • MrNightly
    MrNightly Posts: 3,370
    edited June 2006
    dorokusai wrote:
    I just shake my head when I see a helmet, tanktop, shorts and flip flops on a motocyclist....get the gear, or don't ride. That's pathetic and Ben is an idiot.

    Exactly. A shame really.

    I wish I could feel sorry for the guy, but common, kinda like base jumping without a 'chute, or playing football without a helmet... doh.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited June 2006
    ohskigod wrote:
    When your making millions, and have teamates and fans counting on you, then there are some things your gonna have to let go. Dont like it? get a 9-5 job, what can I tell ya.
    Invalid arguement IMO.......regardless of him making millions, the same can be said for the dad with kids, single person with parents/siblings, etc.......

    Just cuz he does what he does doesn't make him more important.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited June 2006
    Ha, that is funny, MNight. Ask him if he would play football without a helmet.
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited June 2006
    from SI.COM (associated press)
    "In May 2005, Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. tore knee ligaments in a motorcycle accident and was lost for the season.

    Roethlisberger continued to ride after Winslow's accident and that angered Terry Bradshaw, who quarterbacked the Steelers to four Super Bowl victories during the 1970s.

    Visiting the Steelers' training camp last summer, Bradshaw remarked: "Ride it when you retire.""

    wonder what Bradshaw is saying right now.....
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,243
    edited June 2006
    Don't forget about Ron Gant for the Braves back in the early 90's. He broke both bones in his lower leg in a dirt bike accident after consecutive 30/30 seasons. Never was the same.

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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited June 2006
    Grace, from Will and Grace:

    "Told ya so, told ya so, told ya told ya, told ya so"
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  • schwarcw
    schwarcw Posts: 7,339
    edited June 2006
    Here's a link with more infor, it doesn't look good:(
    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5687558?GT1=8297
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited June 2006
    I think Ben, and everyone else should be able to make a choice with seatbelts and helmets. Everyone knows the consequences.

    Being that the guy is set for life if he even remotely manages his money responsibly I wouldn't think about riding a motorcycle at all if I were in his position, let alone without a helmet.

    I don't think he should have to follow rules any differently, but he should definitely make some smarter choices. He can only blame himself if this doesn't turn out well, and I hope he doesn't try to point the finger at anyone but himself.

    I'm actually surprised this wasn't in his contract. This type of stuff is in a lot of pro-atheletes contracts where they can't ride motorcycles or do other potentially dangerous activities. If it is they can lose a good chunk of, or all of thier salary for the remainder of their contract....
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited June 2006
    Oh, and just remember....Charlie Batch is your current back-up. Yikes. :(
  • marker
    marker Posts: 1,084
    edited June 2006
    Remember former duke All-American Jason Williams was drafted 2nd overall by the Bulls and then suffered career ending knee injuries in a motorcycle crash.

    Even though it was specifically in his contract not to ride motorcycles, Chicago honored his contract and paid him, but if I were them, I wouldn't have.
  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited June 2006
    brettw22 wrote:
    Invalid arguement IMO.......regardless of him making millions, the same can be said for the dad with kids, single person with parents/siblings, etc.......

    Just cuz he does what he does doesn't make him more important.

    Invalid? it all depends on how you look at it. I wouldnt disagree with you in regards to a dad with kids and whatnot. if that was the topic of conversation I probably would have made the same argument? If you do something stupid like ride without a helmet (which is the most basic of safety precautions) its not just your risk, its your stakeholders risk as well. kids, loved ones, teamates, fans. its all the same argument. I'm not saying dont live life, but wear a goddamn helmet?

    I dont think its rocket science bud :D
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  • polksda
    polksda Posts: 716
    edited June 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    I think Ben, and everyone else should be able to make a choice with seatbelts and helmets. Everyone knows the consequences.

    I'm afraid I have to disagree. Stupid self-destructive behavior does need to be regulated, IMO. Why? Because as a society, we bear the brunt of these self-destructive behaviors through higher medical costs and higher insurance premiums that we all end up paying.

    I realize that some will argue 'slippery slope', but I'm afraid I don't see a downside to seatbelt laws, helmet laws, and childseat laws...
  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited June 2006
    polksda wrote:
    I'm afraid I have to disagree. Stupid self-destructive behavior does need to be regulated, IMO. Why? Because as a society, we bear the brunt of these self-destructive behaviors through higher medical costs and higher insurance premiums that we all end up paying.

    I realize that some will argue 'slippery slope', but I'm afraid I don't see a downside to seatbelt laws, helmet laws, and childseat laws...

    You can't legislate common sense. Sorry.
  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited June 2006
    ohskigod wrote:
    Invalid?
    In terms of him being held to a higher standard just because he's an NFL player. I'm not disagreeing with you in that he should wear a helmet.....just the premise that he's a level above because of who he is... (i think that makes sense)
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited June 2006
    Most of his teeth are gone, broken jaw, and a few other things. They say a plastic surgeon has been called in. Wow....
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited June 2006
    Demiurge wrote:
    I think Ben, and everyone else should be able to make a choice with seatbelts and helmets. Everyone knows the consequences.

    Being that the guy is set for life if he even remotely manages his money responsibly I wouldn't think about riding a motorcycle at all if I were in his position, let alone without a helmet.

    I don't think he should have to follow rules any differently, but he should definitely make some smarter choices. He can only blame himself if this doesn't turn out well, and I hope he doesn't try to point the finger at anyone but himself.

    I'm actually surprised this wasn't in his contract. This type of stuff is in a lot of pro-atheletes contracts where they can't ride motorcycles or do other potentially dangerous activities. If it is they can lose a good chunk of, or all of thier salary for the remainder of their contract....

    I completely agree with Demi on this, as well as his stance on "you can't legislate common sense". The whole "we as a society pay for these mistakes" nonsense is just that - nonsense. There's no quantitative way to say "this costs taxpayers this much". All this legislation costs money too, you don't see people complaining about that.

    You have to take responsibility for YOURSELF. You know what happens if you're on a motorcycle without a helmet and hit the ground. If that's an acceptable risk to you, then you obviously deserve what you get.

    It's just not the government or anyone else's job to tell you how to take care of yourself. You gonna outlaw McDonalds next, because it makes health care costs higher? How about alcohol?
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