Bad Flea Deal

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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited April 2006
    "Tip" of the hat to you George :)
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited April 2006
    I am as much a sucker for a good story as anyone, but his response to the forum for his actions was, in my opinion, pretty lame.

    He entered into a transaction, came up with a story for why he could only pay what he could pay, and then entered into another transaction (and another, and another - all with the same outcome).

    On the same day he was telling one person he could not afford to pay $20 for something, he was purchasing speakers for that same $20.

    He entered into every deal, and somehow, issues with his children kept him from following through on his word. I would have rather heard why HE entered into another transaction while still owing a debt to another forum member.

    I do not know him and am not involved in the transactions at hand, but as the parent of 2 children with "issues" I find it less than cool that a deal HE made is not paid for because his children have problems (that I assume were there when the deal was made).

    I wish nothing but the best for him and his family, but the decisions he made and the actions he took were his doing, not his families nor his childrens.

    Place blame where it should be placed.

    This is no longer my issue - the decision of what to do should be left up to the people who were taken, but I will never knowingly do business with Hotwheelman. Not because of his family, but because of the kind of person he has shown himself to be.

    Michael
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2006
    Anyway you slice it, this one is going to leave a bad taste.

    Mike, you are correct, $50 was paid on the $65 balance before I told you to forget it after some time went by. As far as I'm concerned, any debt you have with me is forgiven and quashed. If you still feel the need to put up the $15, do so at a local Charity.

    That being said, I'd like to see you take some steps to remedy the other wrongs, and make changes for the better for yourself, which will directly impact your loved ones.

    What is the one thing a man needs in order to change?

    Time.

    Cheers,
    Russ
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • seo
    seo Posts: 305
    edited April 2006
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2006
    I'm finished. So is this thread. Justin, shut it down.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2006
    OK HWM, I have thought long and hard about this. Here is what I will do.

    You need to pay your Twenty Dollar debt to me. When you do I will post it on the board and the membership will know you kept your word. I do not want Paypal, I want a check or a money order in an envelope. Along with the check or the money order you are to send a recent copy of one of your childrens medical bills you owe to a Doctor, the bill needs to show a balance owed. No need for the details, treatment etc. just the bill clearly addressed to you and the name and address of the Doctor.

    It needs to be a child's doctor, and yes, I will check, I dont want any information about the child, the illness or any other personal information, you can black all that out, as I said, just your name on the bill and the name of the Doctor, I suppose the account number would be nice, but if you dont want me to see that its OK, as I will clearly indicate when I send the funds to your child's Dr. your name and that it is to be credited to your account. I will forward the payment to the Doctor to be credited to the account within five days of receiving it.

    You have posted in this thread you were going to Paypal what you owe me next Tuesday, I will expect to see a postmark of April 18, 2006, on the envelope. You have my address.

    If these terms are not acceptable to you then post here in this thread that you will not accept my offer.

    Sorry GG but the thread needs to stay open a bit longer. It can fall to the back pages as this is now solely between HWM and myself as far as any debt. I would request the membership not post until I post his payment or he declines the offer.

    Thank you.

    RT1
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited April 2006
    I'm down with a Jackson to match, Ted.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,790
    edited April 2006
    Kudos.

    Yes, this thread definitely needs to stay open a bit longer.
    Sal Palooza
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  • hotwheelman
    hotwheelman Posts: 1,300
    edited April 2006
    Ted, I need an addy please.
    "Its worked so far but we're not out yet."
    "Hey big man let me hold a dollar"
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited April 2006
    Post edited because RT1 got all pissy at me in a PM *shrugs*
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2006
    Not my fight, however +1 on Mr. Grand's last comments. I hope this is the wake-up call HWM needs to learn that people will work with him if he is upfront, honest, and goes about his dealings with character. I also am convinced that someone in that situation, trying to help kids in the described predicament, could count on some used pieces of audio equipment showing up at the door from the members of this forum. It's sad that the whole thing had to go this direction.

    HWM - my sympathies to your kids, and my sincere wish that you get this straightened out.
    DKG999
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2006
    Guys... those involved have issued a plea to leave it alone. Please comply...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2006
    I just noticed the posts in this thread after it had fallen back.

    Nadams--Edited as Nadams is a fine young man.

    HWM--I sent the addy to you via pm

    dkg--please follow Tour's advice

    RT1
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,651
    edited April 2006
    I've changed my mind in light of recent news. Mike, I'm calling you out as a liar and a crook. I'm also calling for you to be banned outright, enough of this BS!!!

    Justin, ban his sorry arse.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2006
    Thanks for your delayed, and non involved input cochise.
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,651
    edited April 2006
    Thanks for your delayed, and non involved input cochise.
    I was involved before anybody else in Mike's rip off schemes, Do your homework before opening your big mouth, cochise.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited April 2006
    Ron-P wrote:
    The least he could do is send back the tweeter, that'd cost much less then $20. It's sad that people do this to one another.

    Exactly Ron, what I was thinking. I doubt anyone would have a problem with someone sending something back if they couldn't afford it.

    With this many complaints, he needs to be banned from the Flea Market.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2006
    Ok, I received a message a few minutes ago from HWM the "check is in the mail" as of yesterday.

    RT1
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited April 2006
    what's with this whole "Cochise" thing?
    Apache leader? what? :confused:

    best of luck Reel.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2006
    I believe each member who commented in this thread will have to decide on there own about HWM.

    I have received the funds from HWM, the tweeter is paid for and the matter is therefore, closed.


    RT1
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2006
    F HWM. There won't be any backpeddling from this camp, he's persona non grata.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • POLKOHOLIC
    POLKOHOLIC Posts: 407
    edited April 2006
    aaharvel wrote:
    what's with this whole "Cochise" thing?
    Apache leader? what? :confused:

    best of luck Reel.

    i believe its a texas thing
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2006
    dorokusai wrote:
    F HWM. There won't be any backpeddling from this camp, he's persona non grata.
    Agree, PNG...

    rt1,
    Any other "info" enclosed with the check?
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited April 2006
    Other than to say, "Thank you, big Ted," I'm done here...

    One "unsubscribe" coming up...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited April 2006
    HWM is to Club Polk as Wimpy is to Popeye.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2006
    I'll glady pay you Tuesday for some SL2000's today?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • read-alot
    read-alot Posts: 812
    edited April 2006
    RuSsMaN wrote:
    I'll glady pay you Tuesday for some SL2000's today?

    How many you need there bud, I will even give you the second Tuesday of next week if need be:)
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited April 2006
    hoy hoy hoy hoy hoy.........I'vve had all I can stands I cant stands no more....toot tooot
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