Brokeback Mountain

Loud & Clear
Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
edited December 2005 in Music & Movies
"Why can't I quit you, dude?"

I don't know, I quite literally thought that this was a joke the first couple of times that I heard of this film and it's premise. Good luck getting a dude and his buddy to go check this "Western" out; "uh, yeah, me and my buddy here need two tickets for Brokeback Mountain." [giggles & snickers from any and all heteros nearby]

I also have a hard time imagining that this is a film that hetero daters, families, or lesbians are going to pay money to see. So that basically leaves **** men, guys that have lost bets or that are taking dares to gobble up the tickets.

I can't help myself but to be curious about the soundtrack. Is it possible that it will consist of Morrissey and Erasure pounding away one song after the next for the duration of the film? Are The Village People involved?

I hope that those of you that go see the movie post a review of both the film and your experience.

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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited December 2005
    I was in the movie theater today and saw a preview of it too.. I was surprised too. ANd not much surprises me anymore... i dubbed it Bareback Mountain. JK! :p

    I heard a few gasps from some of the people in the audience today too.

    I"m pretty openminded and all. but even I gotta say. this is pretty far fetched story line. I think someone finally took movie making to far.

    While I haven't seen it.. I can kind of guess from the previews what it's about.. it's kind of shock factor movie making. Titilation for **** men for sure. I'm with Loud, I don't know how many other people would be interested in it either. I'm not dogging the film yet, I'm just stating my thoughts based on the preview I saw today.
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  • avelanchefan
    avelanchefan Posts: 2,401
    edited December 2005
    According the "reviews" it is a smash hit. But that is Hollywood for you. Now that being said I am a little interested in seeing it, one of the main reasons is that it is an Ang Lee film, and I tend to like his films (except Hulk).
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    Loud & Clear wrote:
    I also have a hard time imagining that this is a film that hetero daters, families, or lesbians are going to pay money to see. So that basically leaves **** men, guys that have lost bets or that are taking dares to gobble up the tickets.
    You seem to have left out straight chicks and hetero men that are secure in their sexuality.

    It's daring, so if it's as well made as the reviews say, it will find an audience just as other films with **** subject matter have before. If not in the theaters, then in the DVD stage of its life.
    More later,
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited December 2005
    Tour2ma wrote:
    You seem to have left out straight chicks and hetero men that are secure in their sexuality.

    damn right.

    and just so you know it's leading the Oscar campaign as we speak.
    I'm looking forward to this one, Syrianna and Kong.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited December 2005
    http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brokeback_mountain/

    for all you secure, non-homophobes out there.
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  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 4,535
    edited December 2005
    Screenplay co-written by Larry McMurtry (Lonesome Dove, etc). I guess the word of mouth and rumor about the movie is it's just a movie about **** cowboys (actually sheep farmers), but the story seems to be much more than that. Seems interesting.
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited December 2005
    Looks like Tour & aaharvel might take this one in. Perhaps a review afterwards.

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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited December 2005
    perhaps.

    after Kong. definitely after Kong. :cool:
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    ... and not together... :D
    More later,
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited December 2005
    oh come on don't be hatin'... ;)
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2005
    I'll probably see it when it hits DVD, like all movies I watch. Wouldn't have any interest in it other than that Jake Gyllenhaal is a good actor. The whole plot of the movie seems ridiculous, but whatever, that's what all of Hollywood is. Interesting to see if this was just made to make people gasp or what the deal is.

    On a side note...I really don't see why people who are apalled by the subject matter are 'homophobic'. I reject the term as I truly don't know anyone who has a phobia about homosexuals. They may deem homosexual acts as immoral, but too often that gets slapped with the label of 'hate' and 'phobia'. That's just as narrowminded as those who truly do hate the individual, which holds no moral basis in and of itself. Like myself, I don't think many people really care. Avoiding this movie most likely just makes you apathetic...and there's nothing wrong with that.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited December 2005
    I hope people do see the movie and see what your thoughts are after you've seen it. I know i'll see it too. I'm just not going to expect to much out of it when i do.

    If you like Ang Lee and/or **** themed movies. check out The Wedding Banquet. now that's a good movie.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2005
    Brings new meaning to the phrase's "Ride'em Cowboy" or "Cowboy Up".
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2005
    ****, straight, whatever...I have absolutely NO interest in this movie! I don't particularly like Ang Lee's work. "Sense and Sensibility" and "The Ice Storm" were just plain boring. "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" was visually interesting and "something different" so I guess it was ok. "The Hulk" cold have been good...but wasn't. Lee is excellent at cinematography but his storys just don't appeal to me. This one? I really don't buy movies to see epic, period piece, western, love stories, that are "Profound. Trancendent. Heartbreaking" or "A rich love poem with boundless soul". The final kiss of death is the way many of the "critics" have gushed all over this one. Alway a great indicator that I will not like it. I'll pass.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2005
    I'll never see this film. I do not agree with the content and will not support it.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited December 2005
    the movie is getting a lot of publicity right now.. just in time for being nominated for all the awards.. but I think once all is said and done.. i don't think it'll end up winning that many awards after all.

    It's the flavor of the month right now. but I think all the hype will die down pretty fast.
    Some critics are calling it a possibility for "movie of the year"????

    What do movie critics know anyways.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2005
    What do movie critics know anyways.
    Nothing more than you or I danger.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2005
    To say that THE reason not to see this movie is because there is a **** theme within the movie IS phobic.....regardless of your justification. I think it's fairly laffable for people to get irked because a movie like this hits the theaters. Try to open your minds a little bit and at least consider the fact that a good story is a good story, regardless of if it melds into your own life.

    Lord knows that 'we' get your 'straight' world shoved in our faces on a daily basis, and I don't think that it's nearly as often as it should be that you hear 'us' **** about how blatantly dismissive 'straights' are to anyone elses lives are that don't conform to their own little world.

    That might be a bit much, but people need to quit dumbing everything down so low so they can justify the ignorance that seems to be overwhelming them.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2005
    Not phobic at all Brett. In my eyes it's just plain wrong and I won't spend my money supporting it, plain and simple.
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2005
    So if I don't want to see a movie that has rampant drug use and exploitation like say, Requiem for a Dream, does that make someone a Narcphobic? I mean, seriously. Lets break these words down to what they mean. Not agreeing with someones lifestyles, choices, etc, is not a phobia nor does it show insecurity. Hearing people say that really dumbs down an argument. It's not like there is just a **** scene in the movie, it is the premise of the whole movie. 2 married men get back together and end up re-kindling some old fling. I do want to see what all the hype is about, but I can definitely see why someone wouldn't want to see it.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2005
    From websters:
    1. A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous.
    2. A strong fear, dislike, or aversion.
    I'm not pointedly commenting to anyone to clarify....

    Regardless of one's reasons, IMO it's weak to say that this type of a movie is one that they'll ignore or pass on because they don't agree with, but I'd be willing to bet that most of those people will to go to a movie such as Kill Bill or something to that effect and have no problem with it. Everyone's free to pick and choose, but (and I'm probably just more accepting of things) I think it's weak......

    I'm not trying to make it sound like people can't have their own opinions about what they do or do not like for entertainment, but to bias strictly on sexual orientation isn't something I tolerate, nor should I. To each their own I suppose, but then I'm arguing from the position of being constantly biased against strictly because the adj. '****' is part of what describes me.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited December 2005
    touche.

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    So this is what a rational discussion of a disagreement looks like...
    More later,
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2005
    I rented "Requiem for a Dream" and borrowed "kill Bill" both films were a joke and waste of my time. I will not buy or rent either one again.

    It's all about personal choice and I don't have a problem with that. I find drug use and homosexualness wrong and won't support it. It has nothing to do with being "weak".

    If people choose to do it fine, just don't make a stink about it because you don't get your way or make me pay with my tax dollars because of the choices you made.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2005
    I wonder what would happen to the straight people if all of a sudden 'our' tax dollars were only used for 'us' instead of otherwise being given up for everyones use EXCEPT us (your kids schools/busses, income tax return for families only, etc). Cheap shot? hardly (cheap).......we pay PLENTY in taxes and that give us ZERO return (or rights) and are otherwise freely handed to you.

    I'd like to see those that have a problem with my gayness then also have a problem with me funding their otherwise 'straight' lifestyle since my '****' one is not something they can allow in their life. You can't have it both ways...

    The 'stink' that 'we' make is because we seem to have a Constitution in this country that is supposed to protect it's citizens rights but instead has been attempted to be modified to specifically exclude a group of people. Discrimination anyone? Look at it objectively and tell me who the hell is should ever put up with that.

    EDIT: How did you know that you were into girls? Seriously......
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,520
    edited December 2005
    This is a topic that can be discussed to no end and cause nothing but anger / problems. So, as my final piece I will say that (IMO) homosexuality is wrong and unnatural, end of my opinion. I will not support it. Post what you will but I will not respond or post in this thread again.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2005
    I'm not angry......but whatever.

    Everyone's entitled to their opinions, as long as others experiences/opinions are respected and not biased against based strictly on selective discrimination.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited December 2005
    I'd just like to point out that I don't know how "tax money" comes into this - how does tax money go towards one sexuality or another? Unless you're talking about the **** marriage thing.
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  • MacLeod
    MacLeod Posts: 14,358
    edited December 2005
    The way I see it, who grown men and women chose to sleep with and be with is no business of mine and I have no right to tell them their choice is wrong. This is a free country and if 2 grown men chose to be together that is their right and I will fight to defend it. However that doesnt mean I have to agree with and approve of that lifestyle.

    What makes me furious though is being labled a biggot or homophobe because I dont agree with that lifestyle. Why am I an **** because I dont approve of a particular lifestyle?

    Because I dont agree with it I dont want to go see a movie about it. It doesnt mean I have a closed mind or am a biggot or practicing hate, just that I dont care to see a lifestyle I disagree with on the big screen for 3 hours. Its no different than me not wanting to watch Sense and Sensibility because its a story that Im not interested in and would be bored to tears. Does that mean Im a biggot towards British actors and boring 17th century stories?

    And to say Im insecure about my sexuality because I dont agree with being **** is stupid. So if you dont agree with a man having sex with a horse (Im not comparing homosexuality to beastiallity in ANY WAY here) does that mean youre insecure about your sexual feelings towards farm animals? No, you just dont agree with that lifesyle! Plain and simple.

    I guess my point to this whole rant is that because I believe homosexuality to be a choice and dont happen to agree with that choice, doesnt mean Im practicing hate or am a biggot or homophobe or whatever. I dont think its "evil" or "sinful", I simply dont agree with that lifestyle. Im sure there are plenty of people that wouldnt agree with my lifestyle of spending all my spare money and time fiddling with car audio.

    A **** man calling me names for not approving of his lifestyle is no different than me calling him names for his lifestyle.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,623
    edited December 2005
    Here's how:
    Ron-P wrote:
    If people choose to do it fine, just don't make a stink about it because you don't get your way or make me pay with my tax dollars because of the choices you made.
    This is a thought I've heard expressed a lot in my life, and I find it ridiculous (sorry Ron) that people have a problem with their straight money potentially going towards the **** community, but have no problems with our money being given to them every day of the year. (as I mentioned, public schools, busses, etc)

    **** marriage and the dispursement of my tax dollars is a big concern personally. More accurately it's that equal rights is something we tout in this country, but spend a LOT of time discriminating against people that don't fit into what some believe the collective majority should be.

    I don't judge any straight people on the 'rightness' or 'wrongness' of their lives, but yet that's something that many straight people can't resist passing judgement on those who.......aren't. It's hypocritical IMO.
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