Moral Dilemma?

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,722
    edited December 2005
    Does it look like she lives in the poor house?
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    Nah... Lives in the empty SVS box...
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited December 2005
    It sounds big enough :D

    I guess I just won't understand, because I'm not into HT... yet
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited December 2005
    wingnut4772 wrote:
    During this madness I placed the Pc PLus back just to revisit the difference and there was just no going back after hearing this sub. It's night and day.
    ....KNOCK IT OFF!!! why do you keep hurtin' my fragile little feelers?

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    KNOCK IT OFF!!! why do you keep hurtin' my fragile little feelers?

    I'm sorry...I guess if I had never heard it? The PC PLus rocks though, really. It's just that, IMO, the PB12 Ultra/2 is just that darn good. :o
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited December 2005
    when you gonna update them pics in your "obsession"? you've got pics of an svs tube. how many svs's have you used and abused and discarded for something new? wowsers!

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Does it look like she lives in the poor house?

    That room you see is the ONLY room done and the only one that will be done for years before we can remodel. The housing prices in Miami are so insane that we pretty much just really bit the bullet on it and did it before it was too late to afford anything.
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited December 2005
    can i move in? i'll do the cooking and cleaning. we'll set my system up in the guesthouse or garage or somewhere else menial.

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     ONKYO TX-SR805
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    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Oh yes..I am sure that will go over really well :D
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited December 2005
    nadams wrote:
    It sounds big enough :D

    I guess I just won't understand, because I'm not into HT... yet

    Honestly, I could see me owning/building a subwoofer on the caliber of the SVS B4...

    Something to hit that loud, that low for HT... hmmm

    HT is fun... and the only reason its fun is the bass. :)

    Rock on.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited December 2005
    Maybe if you expained that for 2 grand you not only got a sub, but a sublet......
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited December 2005
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote:
    Honestly, I could see me owning/building a subwoofer on the caliber of the SVS B4...

    Something to hit that loud, that low for HT... hmmm

    HT is fun... and the only reason its fun is the bass. :)

    Rock on.


    I'm thiinking of doing something along those lines, myself...

    I think I could do it for a little less, and have the satisfaction of sweat equity.
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2005
    Why does the phrase "Those that don't know...DON'T KNOW" keep popping into my head?
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,772
    edited December 2005
    amulford wrote:
    I'm thiinking of doing something along those lines, myself...

    I think I could do it for a little less, and have the satisfaction of sweat equity.

    Although putting similar quality drivers in four enclosures or w/e wouldnt be an equal... Im not sure what you would have to do to make an equal performmer.

    The SVS B4 is fairly unique in that its a push pull AND ported AND a large box, making it extremely effecient in more ways than one...

    I bet that thing gets loud as crap with modest power...

    But I wouldnt mind having something of that caliber in my theater in the future...

    Probally could make something of similar quality for around 2 grand... give or take...

    Get like three 15" Tumults (3-4" of excursion) - with about 3,000 watts of power (1,000 each) tuned to about 22hz...

    That might could do it.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited December 2005
    shack wrote:
    Why does the phrase "Those that don't know...DON'T KNOW" keep popping into my head?


    Hey, whaddaya tryin to say????
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    That he has a one-track mind?
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner
    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
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  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2005
    Just rhetorical musings.....
    "Just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right." - Ricky Gervais

    "For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase

    "Consistency requires you to be as ignorant today as you were a year ago." - Bernard Berenson
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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,838
    edited December 2005
    cmy330go wrote:
    Dang.....Lucky you. That is a big jump in size, and style (buttons under trap door). Unfortunately I'm pretty certain my wife would notice a growing black box. :rolleyes:

    Eh, you'd be surprised. The 4802 is only 1/2 inch taller and the same width, same color, same basic display, the big knobs are in the same place. She never really sees it up close anyway. She uses the universal remote from 12 feet away in a room that is usally darkened. If it works and there is nothing obviously different, she would never really notice.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2005
    Wing and Frizz,

    Psssst, hey ladies.........................I would like to mention the possibilities of the vacuum tube. :D

    RT1 has educated his fine wife so that she now understands 2,000 is a very reasonable purchase for some fine audio gear. RT1 also tends to keep his mouth his shut about things (likes your fairy analogy) and buy's his damsel the pretty stones, shiny crystal and fancy pots she likes.

    When pinned in the corner with no escape:

    Oh, yes, well dear, see, I sold a piece to buy this one, we are actually ahead on the deal..........besides this was my BD, XMAS, Labor Day, 4th July, present to myself............I got a really great deal it was on closeout, the new model is going to be 1000 more...........

    Enjoy your new sub.

    RT1
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    I did do that. I sold my old sub on Ebay and some other things but not $ 2000.00 worth. I think he would also be able to tell if suddenly my 770 was replaced with an Earthquake cinenova too. Damn that green Outlaw light!
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited December 2005
    Looks like you have to keep the outlaw (bi-amp your other speakers?) and add the Earthquake to the mix.

    There must be a closet, shelf with a door, or something that you can throw it in. With an automatic turn on and off via the trigger output on your pre-amp, you will be in business. A beast like that may want its own circut anyway... (and if the earthquake is not available, I can recommend Cinepro as a great substitute)

    Keep chanting the audio mantra - outta site, outta mind. If you can't disguise it, hide it......
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    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Ha. Who would have ever thought that this hobby would end up being Mission Impossible. ' This message will self destruct....'
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,083
    edited December 2005
    As Ted said....tuuuuubbbes.

    Prettier than diamonds, IMHO.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2005
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! :D

    You guys are CRAZY!

    RT you keep on going bud, you might talk someone into tubes but it won't be me!!!! :D

    Darla, dun dun de de dun dun de de dun dun! :D:D

    Troy, only a guy WOULD think that a little glowing lightbulb is prettier than diamonds!
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2005
    I agree. Tubes, a guys best friend.
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • Demiurge
    Demiurge Posts: 10,874
    edited December 2005
    As long as you want kids. :eek:
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Ok . I have finally updated my HT pics (click on link) to include the homewrecking Jezebel. As you can see it is a mammoth beast..but..it sounds so purdy :) .
    To further elaborate on the difference between this and the PC Plus 20-39, it hits harder, lower and ,oh my God, louder! The bass is tighter and more layered and detailed. I have the gain only up a quarter and the sub set at maybe 1 db hot and it shakes the whole house. I had the gain on the PC plus at about 1/2 and ran it about 3-4 db hot and it did not even begin to approach the power and output of this thing. I am also not as able to 'locate' this sub as far as telling where the bass is coming from as I could somewhat with the PC Plus.

    It is a little large and decor is way important for me but it is so awesome and I know it can move with me wherever I go if I ever get a house with a larger HT room so there you go.

    I guess it's pretty obvious why the fairies couldn't work their sneaky magic on this one. ;)
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  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited December 2005
    i can view the thumbs, but not the enlarged originals. walnut?

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    PANASONIC PT-AE4000U -- DIY WILSONART DW 135" 2.35:1 SCREEN
     ONKYO TX-SR805
    CENTER: CSI5
    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)
    XBOX 360    WiiPS3/blu-rayTOSHIBA HD-A35 hd dvd

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    bobman1235 wrote:
    I have no facts to back that up, but I never let facts get in the way of my arguments.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Hmmm.. I wonder why? It's maple actually.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited December 2005
    cfrizz wrote:
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! :D

    You guys are CRAZY!

    RT you keep on going bud, you might talk someone into tubes but it won't be me!!!! :D

    My dear Frizz, I am nothing if not persistant upon the path. A little tube Gestalt for you:

    I have seen no metal, glass, or wire here, but attest to a glow which floats it music to my ear.
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