Moral Dilemma?

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited December 2005
    Only I would find the one guy in the world who doesn't get hot for this stuff! :rolleyes:


    I have been sneaky also. I don't like to be but mysteriously one night the Polk Fairy came and replaced my Rti100s with LSi15's. He never noticed. Also the Denon Fairy came one night and beat the crap out of the Sony Fairy and replaced my Sony DVD with the Denon 2910. I guess he just never heard the struggle :D

    There are some other issues also of course...I mean we just bought this house and it was way expensive so he is stressing about that. I wish he was into HT like I am ..but he does enjoy watching the Red Sox in HD on my Tv - that I can assure you.


    Maybe the boy friend fairy came and kidnapped the real man and replaced him with well......a fairy :D:p

    OK that's it...I'll take no more pot shots at someone I don't even know and can't defend themselves ;) . Sounds like things worked out. It would have been a shame to end it over a mis-understanding like that.

    Good luck

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2005
    I just don't know what to say after reading this thread. First off I find out about Troy, then I'm thinking about this guy is who doesn't like subs and such, then I start thinking of commitment and the like. Cfrizz had it right in my opinion. I'd have a second one delivered tomorrow for stereo bass...
    madmax
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,203
    edited December 2005
    madmax wrote:
    Cfrizz had it right in my opinion. I'd have a second one delivered tomorrow for stereo bass...
    madmax

    Ditto...keep pushing the envelope until you find his limits. At least *if* you need a future *hot* button I think you've found it :eek: .

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • petrym
    petrym Posts: 1,912
    edited December 2005
    cfrizz wrote:
    Hey Darla, from the sounds of it, I think you should keep the sub & tell him that until he puts a ring on your finger & says I do, and you have a joint checking account, what you do with YOUR money is your business.

    As long as BOTH of you are keeping up with your obligations FIRST, then this shouldn't be a big deal.

    This would be different if the 2 of you were married, then I would say that you should have at least given him a heads up about the purchase.

    But since you are not, tell him to not let the door hit him on the way out, & make sure he only takes what belongs to him when he leaves!

    Cathy

    Leave it up to cfrizz to talk some absolute sense into this, she got it figured right out... cfrizz for president! :D
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2005
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! :D

    Thank you, Thank you very much!!!

    Now if only I could find a MAN who could handle this forthright attitude!!! :D

    As soon as I let it be known that I will NOT let them walk all over me, they run away!!! :D

    Oh well, I still have my rig to keep me happy!!!! :D

    petrym wrote:

    Leave it up to cfrizz to talk some absolute sense into this, she got it figured right out... cfrizz for president! :D
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Thanks Cfrizz. I wish it were that easy but with the house and all we have a lot invested together. I really don't feel like selling it seeming as I just bought it and well.....I kinda like the guy. I didn't se him complaining when I bought him $600.00 U2 tix for his B-day though. I don't remember running that by him. They were awesome seats too.
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  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2005
    I mean now i can see where he is coming from 2,000 dollars for a subwoofer is a lot of money. If you had went out and bought a whole stereo system i could understand that a whole lot better than just a damn sub. I have been in car audio since i was old enough to drive thats always been my passion is have the best sound i can afford in my truck, but i must admit i used to have a problem of always wanting to upgrade every few months. I felt like there was better stuff than what i owned but it even bothered me about spending all that money and i was single because lets face it anyway you look at it that's throwing away money it's not a need it's a want. You have to look at it this way you have to use common sense no matter how much money you make or have. 2,000 dollars for a subwoofer is not using common sense. I mean hell the jl audio w7's don't cost that much and they are considered one of the best subs on the market.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Hey..I never said it made sense...just that it was my money. You are right though. It is easy to get caught in the frenzy of better better better. I honestly don't think I will be upgrading my sub again though...I mean Ever. I think I am pretty set all around actually....except maybe that Earthquake Cinenova amp. Hmmmmmmmmm.... :D
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    Anthem D2V 3D
    Parasound 5250
    Parasound HCA 1000 A
    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2005
    maybe so , but they aint SVS...

    ya beet me to it wing...you will never need to upgrade that baby...

    **ah...never mind, I`m already in enough trouble***!
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    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
    Polk Audio Xm Reciever (Autographed by THE MAN Himself) :cool:
    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
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  • Ised8u
    Ised8u Posts: 20
    edited December 2005
    karpiel666 wrote:
    I think that anyone should be able to spend their own money any way they want, as long as all the other responsibilities are taken care of. We arent alive long enough to worry about spending money on fun stuff.

    AMEN!!!

    I bet had this individual used his/her money for... lets say "suprise" there prob. would be no discussion on this forum regarding upgrading your....i mean.... this individuals HT.

    I always say...It's only money
    People who think they know everything, really annoy those of us who do.
  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2005
    I mean thats what i love about polk audio is you get outstanding products at a reasonable price. Thats what i call using common sense buying polk audio products.
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    I agree that I should save and be responsible (and I do) but I could also get hit by a bus tomorrow. Last year I was involved in a shooting at work( I was fine-the other guy not so much) and later in the year I was hospitalized with a pulmonary embolism after a flight to Boston. Mind you- I am in great shape , don't smoke or anything and still got the PE so I know all too well that anything can happen and you sure can't take it with you. (Although I am going to try like hell to get that sub up there!)
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    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • shack
    shack Posts: 11,154
    edited December 2005
    cam5860 wrote:
    I mean now i can see where he is coming from 2,000 dollars for a subwoofer is a lot of money. If you had went out and bought a whole stereo system i could understand that a whole lot better than just a damn sub. I have been in car audio since i was old enough to drive thats always been my passion is have the best sound i can afford in my truck, but i must admit i used to have a problem of always wanting to upgrade every few months. I felt like there was better stuff than what i owned but it even bothered me about spending all that money and i was single because lets face it anyway you look at it that's throwing away money it's not a need it's a want. You have to look at it this way you have to use common sense no matter how much money you make or have. 2,000 dollars for a subwoofer is not using common sense. I mean hell the jl audio w7's don't cost that much and they are considered one of the best subs on the market.
    "A $2,000 sub is not a need...it's a want..." Hell there is nothing about audio (car or home) that is a need. Just because you think $2,000 is too much to spend on anything other than a complete rig doesn't mean that holds true for everyone. Who made YOU the common sense guru?
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    Your money is his money. If you didn't know that before, you know now. He just told you so.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    Well he is in for a big surprise then Ha. He makes more than me though so I just think he is just afraid I am going to dig a hole with this hobby. I can kinda understand. It does get nuts...but I am done for a long while. Seriously. No , really I am.
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    Anthem D2V 3D
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    Parasound HCA 1000
    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2005
    riiiiight..!!

    you do have a really nice rig...but..!!

    Better amplification is always a welcome addition to good speakage..!!
    tubes are veeery nice..!!

    I don`t want to get ya into more trouble though..!!

    I still say , stick to your guns...ya done good..!!
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    He makes more than me though so I just think he is just afraid I am going to dig a hole with this hobby.

    I sense more control than concern. If he was concerned he would show you compassion. You said he was willing to show himself the way out.

    Yeah he's concerned...............about his money. ;)

    How are you 2 on kids and religion? You already have 1 strike n the $$$ end. ;)

    None of my/our business, just thinkin out loud......
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    We are pretty much in agreement on those things. I have known him since high school. We have been great friends for all this time and about 2 years ago it changed into more. I guess it's funny how that can change things.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    Cool... those 3 areas are the most sensitive issues, most others work themselves out, but the main 3 are fundamental.

    Hope you like your new sub!
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited December 2005
    Well he is in for a big surprise then Ha. He makes more than me though so I just think he is just afraid I am going to dig a hole with this hobby. I can kinda understand. It does get nuts...but I am done for a long while. Seriously. No , really I am.
    Does He think wire makes a difference?
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited December 2005
    Tour2ma wrote:
    Does He think wire makes a difference?

    Classic, Bruce. Maybe we can get the end-all final answer to that age old question! :D
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  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2005
    that piece of paper makes changes no one expects..
    one day of happiness and partyin, and the next thing ya know...the wife aint talkin to ya cause ya want to buy $250 speaker stands..(that`s right jesse..those ones!)
    just my o2

    Oh, and make no mistake...I will have my stands..!!!
    Just waiting on more info on the other pair before I pull the ol trigger..!!
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    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    I dare not even tell him that we get that crazy. He will just shake his head and call the men in the white coats.
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    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • beardog03
    beardog03 Posts: 5,550
    edited December 2005
    Tour2ma wrote:
    Does He think wire makes a difference?

    the wife say`s NO..
    mistery solv-ed
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    Parasound HCA-3500
    Cary Audio V12 amp (Jag Red)
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    Magnum Dynalab MD-102 Analog Tuna
    Jolida JD-100 CDP
    Polk Audio LSi9 Speaks (ebony)
    SVS PC-Ultra Sub
    AQ Bedrock Speaker Cables (Bi-Wired)
    MIT Shotgun S1 I/C`s
    AQ Black Thunder Sub Cables
    PS Audio Plus Power Cords
    Magnum Dynalab ST-2 FM Antenna
    Sanus Cherry wood Speak Stands
    Adona AV45CS3 / 3 Tier Rack (Black /Gold)


    :cool:
  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited December 2005
    Here you go, whenever he complains unhook the wires to the driver and hook them to his toes while he is sleeping and turn it up. A little shocking but should make a good point... :)
    madmax
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited December 2005
    I just have to laugh. I am in a "living arrangement". I catch hell ALL the time about my "hobby/sickness". But it's real nice to see the family cozied up on the couch watching a movie with the house shaking, or playing video games upstairs in 5.1. (They aren't allowed to TOUCH the 2 channel rig)

    I make 80% of the money. Our bills are paid. We eat well. The kids have new clothes. Yada yada yada.

    If I spend, I do it on pre owned. No traces ;) You can lie your **** off about how much it costs, like it matters.

    Hey, as long as you take care of business, it's all good. He'll get over it.
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited December 2005
    You have a level head on your shoulders Darla, I didn't know that the 2 of you owned the house when I typed what I did.

    I would just say to make sure that you maintain the equality of the partnership that the 2 of you have, & don't let him get away with dictating to you.

    Enjoy your outstanding system!!!!! :D

    Cathy
    Thanks Cfrizz. I wish it were that easy but with the house and all we have a lot invested together. I really don't feel like selling it seeming as I just bought it and well.....I kinda like the guy. I didn't se him complaining when I bought him $600.00 U2 tix for his B-day though. I don't remember running that by him. They were awesome seats too.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited December 2005
    I'm sorry... but at $2000, hasn't the point of diminishing returns been far surpassed when it comes to subs? Sure, there are gains to be had, but can it sound that much better than a $1000 sub? Guess it all depends on the HT setup...

    Anyway, on the opposite side of things, my girlfriend could care less about my obsession with speakers. She likes to listen to good music, but doesn't really care how it gets to her ears. I told her that if we ever get married, the speakers have to stay. She says that's fine as long as she has room for her shoes :p. That's a few years off, anyway...
    Ludicrous gibs!
  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited December 2005
    I guess that you have never heard the Pb12 Ultra/2. ;) During this madness I placed the Pc PLus back just to revisit the difference and there was just no going back after hearing this sub. It's night and day.
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    Oppo BDP 95
    Von Schweikert VR4 Jr R/L Fronts
    Von Schweikert LCR 4 Center
    Totem Mask Surrounds X4
    Hsu ULS-15 Quad Drive Subwoofers
    Sony PS3
    Squeezebox Touch

    Polk Atrium 7s on the patio just to keep my foot in the door.
  • cam5860
    cam5860 Posts: 632
    edited December 2005
    Wingnut4772 thats true that we might not live to see tomorrow hell for all i know i could get killed going to work in the morning. But that don't mean im going to run out there i spend all my savings and cash my investments in just because i could get killed tomorrow. I mean you just have to have a cut off point in anything you do. Now i don't have a problem with you buying audio products because i love them also, but you also have to make wise decisions.