I'm getting excited about an upgrade..... WE GOT KRELL PUNKS!!!!!

mantis

Finally after a really long wait , we got krell. I listened to the SACD standard for the first time in along time (3 months ago I installed one for one of our customers) and I totally fell in love all over again. The built quality, the cheap credit card butt hole remote, I love it all. Balanced outputs, it's O so beautiful.

I upgraded from B&K to Rotel about a year or so ago. I love my Rotel gear and have been competely happy with it. Krell showcase seems to be my next move.

Once you go Krell you can't go back.....

The dream is coming closer and I'm totally excitied.

Dan

mantis

O and I forgot to mention we got JM Labs 2..... somewhat cool but nothing like KRELL.

Did I mention we got KRELL????

polkatese

who's "we", Dan? Tweeter? I thought Tweet was having problems moving B&K before, and that's why they give up on carrying it? (of course, I could be wrong). Btw, if so, that's cool! my little Krell integrated kick ****...!

mantis

polkatese,
We is Tweeter and if things go my way , we will include ME.

I listened to the 400i intergrated today and it's so awesome. Such powerful sound from such a small package.... Man do I want Krell, always did.

Dan

polkatese

cool deal, Dan! I found Krell amps to be heat producing beasts! not suitable in enclosed cabinets/wall units.Other than that, it's been merrily driving i15 with ease and plenty of reserve juice.

LiquidSound

Of course, after I leave, Tweeter gets the good stuff I don't even WANT to know the accomodation you guys will get.
Which Focals specifically will you guys be getting? Also, what do you think of the JBL speaks you guys got in? Personally, I didn't like them all that much. The subs were nice and tight though.

PolknPepsi

mantis wrote:

polkatese,Man do I want Krell, always did.Dan

I have heard that Krell Integrated with paradigm and it is an incredible amp. Maybe Santa will bring me one. :cool:

venomclan

Welcome to the Krell camp. Awesome gear. I went with Krell seperates and love the power and silent noise floor. Cool.
Venom

TroyD

So Tweeter got a Krell SACD player. That's like getting jazzed over the Chevy dealer getting a new Corvette in.

BDT

dorokusai

I watched a customer in Tweeter today doing a demo between JM Labs and Polk LSi's.

I'm unsure of the actual JM Labs model, but it wasn't a Utopia, and the Polk's were the LSi15 & 25. I dropped in after they left and didn't find anything extra special about the JM Labs vs the LSi, aside from a much more laid back sound. The tone and accuracy was owned by the Polk, but the smooth, warm sound was all JM Lab. I'll personally take smooth and laid back anyday; however, it wasn't anything I haven't heard in high end Kef(Concentric), Dahlquist(V), Rogers or Mission.

It's really a no-brainer beings they utilize different tweeters.

KRELL, the rich man's Parasound.

LiquidSound

Wow, those Grand Utopias are gorgeous... Hadn't seen those before. Has anybody heard em?

ND13

dorokusai wrote:

.KRELL, the rich man's Parasound.

AMEN!!!

steveinaz

I've been looking at Krell CD players for awhile and when my CEC bites the dust, I'll probably make that move.

thehaens@cox.net

Tweeter has Krell? That is great, I can't wait to get some on Close Out. There aren't many Tweeter customers, at least in my area that are going to want to part with the cash to get that Krell Equip. They couldn't move B&K gear. The are blowing some B&K 5 channel amp out the door from something like 800 bucks in Vista, the orig. sticker was 3K (I believe), anyway I picked up a nice Samsung 26" LCD from the store last week for 750.00 plus 50.00 for the wall mounting bracket. Orig sticker (2400.00)...... I wonder if I should admit that I am a cheap ****.....

scott

RuSsMaN

You can thank what's left of Hillcrest Hi Fidelity in Dallas for that. One of the great local HiFi shops that Tweeter has bought, and literally destroyed.

madmax

I seem to remember several reviews of different Krell components. In the end they were often refered to as bright. Is this true?
madmax

DarqueKnight

madmax wrote:

I seem to remember several reviews of different Krell components. In the end they were often refered to as bright. Is this true?
madmax

No...No...., this is not true. Krell gear is not "bright". They are "detailed". "Bright" only applies to mid-fi and low-fi gear. High-fi and especially "High End" gear is "detailed".

I listened to a lot of Krell gear at various Ultimate Electronics (SoundTrack) dealers in Colorado. In no instance did I ever hear any brightness; only pure, clean, bipolar transistor detail. I'm sure that many Krell enthusiasts received superior deals as Ultimate Electronics was liquidating inventory prior to going out of business.

jdhdiggs

RuSsMaN wrote:

You can thank what's left of Hillcrest Hi Fidelity in Dallas for that. One of the great local HiFi shops that Tweeter has bought, and literally destroyed.

NOOOOOO!!!! The Bastages, tell me it's not true Russ...

polkatese

thehaens@cox.ne wrote:

Tweeter has Krell? That is great, I can't wait to get some on Close Out. There aren't many Tweeter customers, at least in my area that are going to want to part with the cash to get that Krell Equip. They couldn't move B&K gear. The are blowing some B&K 5 channel amp out the door from something like 800 bucks in Vista, the orig. sticker was 3K (I believe), anyway I picked up a nice Samsung 26" LCD from the store last week for 750.00 plus 50.00 for the wall mounting bracket. Orig sticker (2400.00)...... I wonder if I should admit that I am a cheap ****.....

scott

no disrespect to Dan (Mantis), since he's been instrumental in educating me on what's going on in the gears marketplace, but Tweeter in CA is not doing well as of late. The one that I've been shopping at, shutdown, about a year ago (thus, taking away friends that I like to do business with). And then, they get rid of Sumiko products, which I like better than Martin Logan, B&K was next. Observing the foot traffic in the one that I went to, it was clear that they are not doing too well. I saw it before: Good Guys, a chain that was in the red for a long time until they were acquired by CompUSA. Bringing Krell to Tweeter have the flavor of REL, Vienna, Sonus, B&K, failures. As Scott posting indicates above, the vulture is waiting (no offense intended to you, Scott or anyone, since I would be the first one to admit, I like to deal, always! no MSRP-10% for me on any gears)

thehaens@cox.net

I just don't think that the consumers that go into a store like Tweeter or The Good Guys are looking at Higher End gear. The way I look at them is the way I look at Circuit City, perhaps a little higher. But they go through their sales associates every 6 months or so. Right about the time I get to know them. But I have normally been able to purchase gear from either of the two chains in the past for a little over 10-20% over cost. There has been some associates that would tell me, and price the gear accordingly, unfortunately the associates I am referring to have all been replaced, or quit. I wouldn't say I am a vulture, but their is a lot of room to haggle. I mean, how can you sell me a LCD that retails for 2400 for 800, or a Sony ES receiver that retails for 1K for 380.00? Or my best one, (from the Good Guys) a Parasound HCA-1500 for 385.00? I figure there are enough people that go in their and take the sticker price as gospel. So they are still making plenty of money...

I can't wait to see the deals on that Krell equipment a year from now. I will be in the market for their SACD player......

polkatese

what's interesting is BB with in-store Magnolia might actually have the right formula (mixing lo, mid, and hi end gears under one roof) ...

thehaens@cox.net

Our Tweeter has their store set up in that fashion, they have 3 rooms set up, I think in their hi room they still have some Martin Logans on their projector set up. They used to have Sonus or the Vienna's. If anyone is interested in the logan's and live around Vista, CA, they are all on sale. What I think they could do is put a mix of the Low, Mid and High in one room and do comparisons between them in the same environment. A simple A, B, C comparison of products...

rskarvan

Krell Rocks ! ! !

thehaens@cox.net

rskarvan wrote:

Krell Rocks ! ! !

OK, I haven't had any experience with their stuff, but willing to try, perhaps some of their MRT products? Nothing like a 600 pound monoblock to crane in to my house

mantis

Tweeter is changing the way they do bussiness everyday. Custom Install is our drive now and is our future. Products like Krell fit the bill in many cases. We are moving into a different model. A mix of mid end to high end is where it's at.

The average Tweeter customer isn't buying Krell. But the average customer of Tweeter is also changing.

When we dropped Sumiko, I was depressed about it. I found products that I loved. Rel was my baby. I was so fasinated by the way you set them up . i would do jobs and just play with the Rel for hours trying to get it to sound it's best. I love nothing more then calibrating a system for max performance. Little differences make alot of difference. But today we have polk , martin logan , Krell and Jm labs. We brought in JBL which is a very nice system when agan set up correctly. Very pricey but there are people who swear by JBL for there reasons.

Our stores are changing the way they look. We also got rid of stores that where not doing so well. It's all business. You have to cut dead weight or go under.

I think Tweeter will be around for years to come. Better and better each year.

I looked at best buy's Mag hi fi and I see us 5 years ago. They have a long way to go but if they do it right and learn from there mistakes, it could be a powerful line of stores. Best buy does many things right , like them or not.

Dan

TroyD

...and a word from the CEO of Tweeter....

Reminds me, I forgot to flip to September on my Flava of the month chart.

We are on Krell this month? Is that with JM Labs and Kimber?

Dan, Tweeter get you those boxcutters with the neoprene wrapped handle? Those things look SWEET!




BDT

F1nut

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

beardog03

thehaens@cox.ne wrote:

OK, I haven't had any experience with their stuff, but willing to try, perhaps some of their MRT products? Nothing like a 600 pound monoblock to crane in to my house

That is a beautiful amp...

I have never heard one though...

It looks like big money

I fit sounds as good as it looks...I could see a pair of mono`s like that... maybe.... someday.. :cool:

mantis

The monoblock is 120K for one. 240k if you want stereo. Crazy money for crazy audiophiles.

TroyD,
Krell is a dream for me to own. It always has been. CEO I am not. I'm trying to explain all the changes people see with Tweeter as a company. It's exciting to get in new product, especially when it's gear you really like. It's very nice to work with gear you truely believe in.
As far as my personal system, JM labs will not be finding a home here. I like them but I like my Dynaudio's much better. Kimber is a keeper still and most likely for a very long time. Krell will however one day find it's way into my home.
Wire is still lacking at Tweeter in my personal opnion.

As far as the box cutter comments, I don't really know what you mean by that but it sounds again like your disresppecting me as a professional factory trained and certified Audio video Installer Programmer. If thats your intention, then you are showing how much of an **** you are.

Dan

PolknPepsi

PolknPepsi wrote:

I have heard that Krell Integrated with paradigm and it is an incredible amp. Maybe Santa will bring me one. :cool:

The master reference stuff........lol...lol, it would go fine with my Corvettes and Hummers if I had some.

I have read somewhere else the Krell integrated I'm dreaming about does not sound as refined as the FPB (full power balanced) series. Then again it is their KAV (Krell Audio Video) line a little lower on the food chain I guess money wise.

But I still would like to try the KAV integrated, in black of course.

mantis

you mean farrari