For the Wife...

Grimster74
Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
edited October 2005 in Electronics
As most of you know I'm getting ready to purchase a new TV. Well the better half and I are lost on which type to get, RPTV, DLP or LCD, so the better half told me to ask all my forum buddies which type they would choose. She would like to get a Microdisplay or the RPTV, neither one of us are real found of the plazmas. So, I creating this poll to kinda help my better half and I out. If at all possible, could you give a brief discription of why you choose the one you did, we are trying to weigh the pros with the cons.(bulb replacement, burn-ins, etc.) And by the way, my budget is $4000 and it has to be larger than 55".
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited September 2005
    RP DLP all the way. Bulbs are a little high, but I like the picture.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    DLP FOR SURE. i have my 65" rptv and it is awesome! but there is something about dlp that has me wanting to upgrade. if i am not mistaken, dlp supposedly does not suffer from screen "burn-in"............

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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited September 2005
    I chose an RP/CRT for the living room, but.....................why would you spend that kind of $$$ without considering FP/ DLP? The room in your system showcase is perfect for a nice size FP setup!

    For real HT experience, nothing beats the huge screen for sports and movies. Mine is 92" diagonal or 80X45, 16:9. It takes up no floorspace and costs less than $2k for a nice projector. I have seen where some guys have put pulldown screens that come down in front of their normal TV for when they want to sit down and enjoy the big picture. Of course you need a tuner and audio system, but you probably have that taken care of.

    Just my experience, 3 years into it and loving it.

    DG
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  • bknauss
    bknauss Posts: 1,441
    edited September 2005
    Another initial vote for front projector.

    As long as you're not gaming, you might not notice the big problem with the current Samsungs of the video having a delay on it. Supposedly playing games like Madden isn't possible because its so annoying having buttons pressed, but it doesn't line up correctly in time with the video.

    I'm liking my LCD RPTV.

    I'd just stay away from CRT RPTV.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2005
    Front projector. No question.
  • BIZILL
    BIZILL Posts: 5,432
    edited September 2005
    okay, front projector was not in the initial poll..........had it been, i too would have chosen it.

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    MAINS: RTI8'S
    SURROUNDS: RTI8'S
    7.1 SURROUNDS: RTI6'S
    SUB: SVS PB12-PLUS/2 (12.3 series)

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    bobman1235 wrote:
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2005
    HOLY HELL!!!

    I just looked at your system pics in the Showcase and you're room is just ASKING for a front projector! That room is absolutely sick. Do yourself and your wallet a favor and seriously consider going front projection. You can get a nice, new 720p projector for well under $2k that will do a 100" diaganol screen with ease. I'm using an old DLP Infocus X1 on an 80" screen and the image is short of breathtaking. Even with it's 800x450 pixels in high-def the picture still looks amazing. Yours would resolve 1280x720, which is over 2.5x the pixels.

    Take a look at this forum for a good place to start:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=68

    EDIT...

    Also, you might want to try moving your sub and component set closer to your television and move your mains out a bit more. That should really improve your soundstage and imaging.
  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    CRT... Why? Because I hate pixilation, screen door effect, lack of detail, blurred edges, moving pixels, bulbs that go out months later and not having a place to put a damn center channel.

    Could've just summed it up by saying "Because I want the best picture."
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,204
    edited September 2005
    Buying a new t today can be extremely hard or extremely easy.

    There are more choices today then ever before. The room will really help choose the correct tv. I vote for DLP as they fit in most rooms and work very well.
    Plasma is another great choice.

    Dan
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    I'm pretty sure I already know the answer but, both DLP & LCD have the possibility of having bulbs replaced, correct? The reason I ask is if I purchase a new tv and then have to tell my wife I may need to replace a bulb at $200+/- sometime down the road, it won't fly. That is the whole reason I'm not aloud to purchase a projector. I've tried explaining this to my wife and she really does not like the idea of additional costs sometime in the future.
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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    Should I also mention I'm going to be getting the RPTV ISF calibrated.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
  • fireshoes
    fireshoes Posts: 3,167
    edited September 2005
    Don't let the bulb thing scare you. If the lamps were that unstable, people would be freaking out all over the forums. "Oh my god, my bulb went out again!" and sure occasionally someone has problems, but usually the people freaking out on the forums are saying, "Oh my god, what if my bulb goes out!?"
  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,881
    edited September 2005
    Grimster,
    I still think that Mitsu 65" Diamond series is your best bet. Especially if you get it ISF calibrated. It will blow away anything else out there with respect to overall image quality.
    For rig details, see my profile. Nothing here anymore...
  • PolkThug
    PolkThug Posts: 7,532
    edited September 2005
    Toxis wrote:
    CRT... Why? Because I hate pixilation, screen door effect, lack of detail, blurred edges, moving pixels, bulbs that go out months later and not having a place to put a damn center channel.

    Could've just summed it up by saying "Because I want the best picture."

    +100
  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    I must say, I just returned from my local Tweeter's and can honestly say I do not like the LCD, DLP televisions, to much pixelation.
    Money Talks, Mine says Goodbye Rob!!!!
  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    It seems DLP is still in the lead on this forum, other forums the RPTV that is ISF calibrated is in the lead.
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  • aaharvel
    aaharvel Posts: 4,489
    edited September 2005
    I would love to have a 10' InFocus Front Projector. But I also like light in my house while I watch TV as well.
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  • Mazeroth
    Mazeroth Posts: 1,585
    edited September 2005
    PLEASE don't let the bulb burning out on a front projector scare you. We'll use the Infocus X1 for example. Their bulbs are rated for 4000 hours of use. If you use your projector for 4 hours a day you'll have to replace the bulb once every three years. The bulbs aren't that expensive, either. The money saved by not buying a boxed television will more than make up for the cost of the bulbs down the road.
  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    Grimster74 wrote:
    It seems DLP is still in the lead on this forum, other forums the RPTV that is ISF calibrated is in the lead.
    well, this IS a speaker forum... How many of the people here that actually work in the industry selling TV's have said DLP over CRT in comparison to those who have said CRT over all? ;)
    Never kick a fresh **** on a hot day.

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  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    I know absolutely nothing about front projectors so I guess this question is for someone that does, how do the stats look on this projector.

    http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/proj_5100mp?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
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  • Willow
    Willow Posts: 11,064
    edited September 2005
    I do not like LCD and plasma, both to grainy esp. during sports they look like crap. I would vote DLP, but if it was up to me and I would choose CRT .
  • ublguy
    ublguy Posts: 51
    edited September 2005
    Was just in the market for a new TV this past week. Decided on the new Sony 42" RP/LCD. Waiting for it to come. I liked the picture of the LCD over the DLP and didn't want to pay an extra $1000 for a plasma.

    The bulbs, I have been told and researched last about 3000-6000 hours, and can be purchased for under $300 and can be replaced by the owner.
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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited September 2005
    I can't say enough good things about my new JVC. Sure, the user replaceable bulb costs $200 but I'm not concerned about that issue - the base footprint is only 34" wide for a 56" screen - not bad at all. Blacks are very good IMO, but as is always the case regarding what constitutes a good picture, YMMV.
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  • Toxis
    Toxis Posts: 5,116
    edited September 2005
    Willow wrote:
    I do not like LCD and plasma, both to grainy esp. during sports they look like crap. I would vote DLP.
    you really need to see a basketball game or hockey on a DLP. Tell me the blurring and grainy isn't bad on that. Not to mention, you cannot even see the grain in the wood floor/lines on the ice. As of right now, I wouldn't take a DLP if it was given to me... unless I could sell it on eBay. :D
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    Car Setup: OEM Radio, RF 360.2v2, Polk SR6500 quad amped off 4 Xtant 1.1 100w mono amps, Xtant 6.1 to run an eD 13av.2, all Stinger wiring and Raammat deadener.
  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    Okay, new situation here. Went into my local BB this past weekend where I used to work part-time and is also the same place I purchased my Pioneer. Spoke with the GM (General Manager) which I'm really good friends with and told him how **** BB's service plan was. Taking over 2 months to even look at the tv was BS in my opinion. The GM told me what he was willing to do was to give me full credit for what I paid for the tv and service plan (which was $2500 w/ employee discount) to apply towards the cost of a new tv. Well after viewing some tv's they had on display, believe it or not, I really like the look of the 60" Sony LCD which I beleive was model no. KDF-60XS955. So know it's a toss up. 1) Do I take the Pioneer back and get the model desribed above. 2) Take the Pioneer back, get the $2500 credit and wait for BB to get the new 60" Sony, SXRD sets and get that or 3) take the $2500 credit and apply it towards the cost of a new refrigerator and dishwasher and then go 3 stores down and spend $3000 on the Mitsubishi 65" WS-65815 Diamond Series CRT. Decisions, Decisions. Please help me out here.
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  • okiepolkie
    okiepolkie Posts: 2,258
    edited September 2005
    I agree on the BB service plan, so I guess it is up to you to determine if you want to buy a new TV there, especially a TV. Most likely, you would want to the get the service plan again, then run into the possibility of this same situation later. My vote would be to go for the fridge and dw(if you will be needing them in the future) and get the Mit Dia down the street.
    I think the CRT will give you a better picture for a longer period of time, especially the diamond series. It may sound silly, but I usually feel like I need to buy service plans on electronics more than I do on appliances. Overall, this probably doesn't make as much sense, because the appliances have a lot more moving parts that tend to go bad(suppose to last for years and years, but often don't).

    Just my rambling opinion, and it can be as worthless as you want it to be.
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  • wingnut4772
    wingnut4772 Posts: 7,519
    edited September 2005
    I have the newer 1080i Samsung DLP 56 inch set and the PQ is stunning compared to my old Samsung DLP 56 inch (which was replaced under warranty). DVDs look like HD material and HD broadcasts are breathtaking. Very little in the way of screen door effect and the black levels are the best I have seen on any RP TV. And this is all out of the box!
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  • rscamer
    rscamer Posts: 70
    edited September 2005
    I would vote for the fp take a look at the new panny 900 or sanyo z4 I have a z2 and the 720p picture sure is nice. I've had mine about 2 years and bulb is still fine I have a friend with a fp for 5 years and same bulb.Once you have a92" screen in hd and you flick the switch to make it a 56" size you know size matters.
  • michael_w
    michael_w Posts: 2,813
    edited September 2005
    If you like diy you could make yourself a kickass front projector lcd for like five or six hundred... then you would really save cash and replacing the metal halide bulb isn't too pricy.
  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited September 2005
    Well ladies and gentlemen, I finally made a decision. Looks like I will be purchasing a 62" Mitsubishi 1080P DLP television. It's model no is WD-62628, just in case anyone wanted to check it out. Went to the big screen store today and spent the better part of a hour just flipping channels and was floored by its performance. Tell me what you guys think.
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