Revenge of the Sith (mega spoilers)

fireshoes

I said in the other thread, I was really pleased with the movie overall. The action sequence straight out of the gates set the tone for the whole movie. Definitely going to be a great home theater demo! Loved it when Anakin killed Dooku!

There were certainly somethings I didn't care for as well. i guess the one that stands out the most was when Anakin saved Darth Sidious. Sidious' face was completely cheesy. I liked how Anakin attacked Windu, leading to Windu's death. Then Anakin said, "What have I done!?" and all of a sudden he's on his knees swearing allegiance to Sidious. I would have liked an exchange between the two justifying the change to the Dark Side. Sidious could have said, "What have you done? You've taken the first step towards a greater power....a power that will help you protect the ones you love and end this bloody war. I can help you complete your transformation." Then it's cool, he's justified in the switch...go kill some younglings lol.

The other part that was kinda dumb was Padme's death. That's fine, she needed to die, but more or less dying of a broken heart is stupid. She should have just been on the brink of death after the force choke and they keep her alive long enough to save the twins. None of that, "There's nothing wrong with her, but we're losing her" crap.

That's just two gripes about the movie, but like I said 95% of it was fantastic.

MSkeezer

Just got back from from seeing it. Wow...just wow. I thought it was amazing. Anakin's turn was too fast, I thought. You're right about that. I didn't have a problems with Padme's death, though. The only thing that really bothered me was the pace of the film. It was effin' relentless. It seemed to be over just as it began. Not necessarily a bad thing. I didn't want it to end, and to me, that's what makes a great movie.

fireshoes

I wanted it to end because I drank about 72oz of soda before and during the movie. Oh man, it was getting painful at the end.

Toxis

Funny, I was actually thinking of creating dual threads for this movie. I like the way you think!

My only complaint with the movie is the scene previously mentioned and how bad the rubber mask was on Sidious. That whole scene was painful to watch because of that.

Padme's death... cheezy but what in Star Wars isn't?? Done.

The only question left unturned for me is this. How did Chewy get hooked up with Hans Solo and why did he leave his nation of Wookies?

Other than that, perfect (for a Star Wars). Sure the acting was bad but hey, gotta keep up with tradition!

MacLeod

Agreed. I freaking loved this movie!

I agree with the complaint that Anakin turned too fast but then again, Lucas aint much of a director, just one hell of a storyteller.

I didnt have a problem with Sidius' makeup as the special effects of the movie were unreal! The cityscapes couldnt have looked more authentic if they did flyovers of Manhatten! Yoda looked as real as ever! However the peakock lizard looked a little cartoonish.

The best part in the movie to me was when Yoda walked into Sidius' chamber and the 2 guards turned like they were gonna do something and he just turned his hand and sighed and down they went! Funny as hell!

Bottom line is I feel sad and the loss after this movie like I was on the Jedi coucil! I feel like I lost friends and my world has changed!

Also, I noticed no political message in here at all.

Effing loved this movie! 9.75 out of 10!

gregure

Originally posted by MacLeod
I agree with the complaint that Anakin turned too fast but then again, Lucas aint much of a director, just one hell of a storyteller.

Not to be churlish, but isn't this more of a writing/storytelling issue than it is a directorial one?

I'm sure it is a fun film, but overall I think Lucas really let us all down. Let's face it, Anakin's turn to the dark side is the crux of the whole prequel trilogy, the entire point of their being made, and to present it quickly and unconvincingly is just about the biggest mistake he could have made in fleshing out the story. He turned to save his wife? He killed all the Jedi children because he wanted the power to save Padme? He committed ultimate betrayal and murder because he trusted a Sith Lord more than his friends? The motivations presented for his turn are very superficial and unrealistic, and they do not lead us to the amoralistic, truly badass Vader of the OT. The reality is that Lucas has become more commercially oriented rather than focusing on the quality of the story. He should have brought Lawrence Kasdan in to write the series with him. Boy, what a difference that could have made.

lomic

I'm surprised it didn't get an R-rating, Hollywood tends to be very anti-room-full-of-children-slaughtering. I had heard from a review that the scene was in there, but I thought it was going to be less direct like showing a montage of the various Jedi at the academy before Anakin walks in - but man, that scene was just so stone cold... I don't think I'll be able to look at Vader the same way again, even after his redemption. I've seriously been depressed all day after all the Jedi killing, but that scene in particular.

Toxis

Originally posted by MacLeod
However the peakock lizard looked a little cartoonish.

was it just me, or did it sound like the creatures from Pitch Black? That kept **** with me. I was waiting for Riddick to come flying off the wall with a knife.

mantis

By far the best of the new 3. It actually makes the last 2 better by linking everything together. So many cool little things they added in.

I was actually shocked. I didn't expect it to do all that.

I don't know why everyone hasn't seen it yet.

Dan

ohskigod

got my tickets for tonight online. cant wait. luckily the spoilers mean nothing to me, i just want to see it!!!!!


getting myself psyched up

Ron-P

I don't know why everyone hasn't seen it yet.

People. That's why. Too many of them. Once the crowds die out in a month or so I may go see it. It's getting very positive reviews but I remember the same thing happened with the first two as well. I caved, went to the theater and was let down. I'm sure this will do the same so I am in no hurry.

fireshoes

It broke the record for one day gross with $50 million, about $6 mil more than Shrek 2.

fireshoes

One other negative point....They really made Obi-Wan look like a chump against Dooku in both movies. That's kinda irritating.

PolkThug

Originally posted by lomic
I'm surprised it didn't get an R-rating, Hollywood tends to be very anti-room-full-of-children-slaughtering. I had heard from a review that the scene was in there, but I thought it was going to be less direct like showing a montage of the various Jedi at the academy before Anakin walks in - but man, that scene was just so stone cold... I don't think I'll be able to look at Vader the same way again, even after his redemption. I've seriously been depressed all day after all the Jedi killing, but that scene in particular.

Is there more than one version?

I saw:

Anakin walks into the room with all the kids. His lightsaber comes out, then it cuts to another scene.

Awhile later, Obi and Yoda go there and there are kids laying on the ground.

Did you see something different?

Edit: I saw it on film, if that makes a difference.

MacLeod

Originally posted by gregure


I'm sure it is a fun film, but overall I think Lucas really let us all down. Let's face it, Anakin's turn to the dark side is the crux of the whole prequel trilogy, the entire point of their being made, and to present it quickly and unconvincingly is just about the biggest mistake he could have made in fleshing out the story. He turned to save his wife? He killed all the Jedi children because he wanted the power to save Padme? He committed ultimate betrayal and murder because he trusted a Sith Lord more than his friends? The motivations presented for his turn are very superficial and unrealistic, and they do not lead us to the amoralistic, truly badass Vader of the OT. The reality is that Lucas has become more commercially oriented rather than focusing on the quality of the story. He should have brought Lawrence Kasdan in to write the series with him. Boy, what a difference that could have made.

I think the thing is that Anakin had been having his doubts as to the loyalties of the Jedi council and was questioning which side was right. Plus I took it as once you step over to the Darkside, which he did by killing Mace Windu, its a slippery slope and the hatred takes you over. At least that was my take on it.

mantis

Ron-P,

I can tell you this, if your a star wars fan, you will enjoy this movie. For no other reason, the links and questions you might have had in the past ,will be answered in this movie. Learning and seeing things come together also make the first 2 make more sense.

I'd like to read what you think after you see it.

Dan

fireshoes

Originally posted by PolkThug
Is there more than one version?

I saw:

Anakin walks into the room with all the kids. His lightsaber comes out, then it cuts to another scene.

Awhile later, Obi and Yoda go there and there are kids laying on the ground.

Did you see something different?

Edit: I saw it on film, if that makes a difference.

You did see a bit on the security video later, IIRC.

lomic

No, we saw the same version, that scene is exactly what I thought was so cold. If he had just walked into the academy, then we saw the bodies at the end that's one thing. But...

Youngling: "Master Anakin - what are we going to do, there's too many of them."
:Blank stare:
Youngling: "Master Anakin?"
:Lightsaber ignites:
:Kids jump in panic:

C'mon, have you EVER seen a movie that shows a room full of children about to be slaughtered, by the person they thought was there to rescue them, no less? I don't remember something like that even in Schindler's List. (Not comparing the two in any way shape or form). I just feel George sufficiently established the evilness without reminding us that 6 year olds were being killed. This is just my critique, and not from a religious or conservative point of view, it just seemed over the top for this movie.

Nelson57

This was without doubt the best the prequels. I thought the droid general (forgot the name) was pretty cool, and I agree that Episode 3 does fit with 1 and 2 nicely.

When I watch these movies I just want to be entertained. Sure there will be things left to question, but the entertainment factor tops my criteria, and this one did not let me down. Pretty sure I'll see again within the next week.

Sin City, and Episode 3 have been the two most entertaining films I've seen so far this year. Looking forward to War of the Worlds, Stealth, Fantastic Four, and Batman...

ohskigod

loved the movie, not more to expound than others allready have. my only slight complaint was that the movie felt a little rushed overall. Its one of those movies that maybe should have been close to, or over 3 hours. Still loved it though, waa actually little depressed after i saw it, which was the movie's intent.

wingnut4772

I loved this movie . It was visually stunning. Of course it was replete with the usual Lucas dialogue and acting caliber but I still loved it. Anakin's transformation did feel a little rushed which is actually kind of funny since it took three films and 6 years to finally get there.

mantis

Just came back after my 2nd time and I love it even more. I don't know if I was excited more the first time or the 2nd.

I guess I will have to go again and figure this all out.

Excellent movie and no let downs for me. I'm in it to enjoy it not pick it apart......

Dan

PolkThug

Originally posted by Nelson57
Looking forward to War of the Worlds, Stealth, Fantastic Four, and Batman...

How'd you like the bass in the Stealth preview?! That's gonna be an awesome home theater movie for bass and surround.

MacLeod

Originally posted by mantis

Excellent movie and no let downs for me. I'm in it to enjoy it not pick it apart......

Dan

Hell yeah!

Nelson57

Polkthug,

Thats exactly what I was thinking when I saw the Stealth trailer. While I will see it in the theater, I was more excited about the anticipated DVD then the theater showing. I found myself saying this should be a great DVD.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I find myself being more let down by sound in the theaters in my area, than many of the movies themselves. I've gotten a little spoiled at home when it comes to sound, I just like to see the big screen sometimes.

mantis

You should make your way over to Oxford Valley Pa and hear it in there.

Dan

Nelson57

Glad we could help Zero

lomic

I went to the first morning show at the local place where the line camp-outs occour every year - because the people who show up for a 9:10am show are the real fans. It was a very good audiance, except one person who was taking camera phone pictures w/flash of the opening scroll... what an idiot. Everyone was yelling at him and he stopped after 2 shots, but you have to wonder what goes through the mind of people like that.

Strong Bad

Heading to the glorious Senate Theater here in Baltimore for the 1pm show this afternoon.

You won't find teenage brats whispering, playing with cell phones or playing text message tag. You also won't find little bored brat kids squirming all over the place.

Theater management doesn't put up with **** like that. The people that go to this theater have been for years and respect that it's a national landmark and one of the best theaters in the country. I've never sat through a movie there with distractions.

NOW, Lowes theaters is a completely different story! Had cops escort of group of thugs out of there one Saturday evening because it was "Thug Time" and time to impress the girls by distracting and ruining everyones time!

John

MacLeod

Thats why there needs to be a "high end" theater.

One that has excellent stadium seating and digital sound. And charges $20 a ticket! This would keep all the teenie-boppers out as they cant afford it and allow those of us that appreciate the movie going experience to enjoy it.

Strong Bad

If ya don't want spoilers, don't read on.







I just got back from seeing it. WOW!!! Incredible!!! This rocked better than I expected. Lucas hands down nailed this one!

CGI was awesome. One part that stood out that didn't need CGI was the Palpatine and Anakin meeting at the Opera. The story of him and his Sith master really does grab ahold of you.

The ending, in my opinion, was priceless! Seperating the twins and seeing them end up where they did and how they did was great! When Obi Wan hands over baby Luke and the Lars stand there looking out over the twin suns....if you're a fan of the original (EP 4 ANH), you're going to love this scene!

Perfect ending in my book!


John