LED Turntable released by Brian Eno
DividedSky
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It's an interesting project. I imagine the novelty wears off pretty quickly and the price must be eye-watering ("Enquire" is the only way to find out). That said, it would be pretty fun to listen to the Yes Fragile one step or Pink Floyd Echoes on this.
https://www.musicradar.com/news/brian-eno-led-turntable
https://www.paulstolper.com/artists/56-brian-eno/works/143-turntable/
https://www.musicradar.com/news/brian-eno-led-turntable
https://www.paulstolper.com/artists/56-brian-eno/works/143-turntable/
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Interesting. Darko.audio has a piece on this, too. He speculates about which manufacturer is making it. He thinks it might be Clearaudio, but the arm looks to be be more like ProJect.
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My guess is the artist took an existing Pro-Ject model turntable with an inexpensive Ortofon cartridge and built a plastic light box around it.
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Hello, DividedSky and good afternoon to you. Glad to see that you decided on joining in on the discussions.
IMO, the last thing that I want in my listening room (especially at night) is light. When I turn off all of the lights, even the displays on the rig are turned off. Not only for better sound quality but for the loss of light.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
It’s definitely got the “cool” looking factor. I used a strip of blue led’s.
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strobes in the base and/or platter would have been... interesting.
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I like the lights a lot. As long as I'm able to control them.
I need a good turntable lamp. DK had a post a while back where he made some gels that I thought were pretty cool. I've just had my vinyl obsession renewed and back at it. Can't seem to find any lamps I like though. Too many choices, most of them cheap garbage or too bright.
I do like the mood of the Eno and of TFO'sIt’s definitely got the “cool” looking factor. I used a strip of blue led’s.
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IMO, the last thing that I want in my listening room (especially at night) is light. When I turn off all of the lights, even the displays on the rig are turned off. Not only for better sound quality but for the loss of light.
Tom
I should probably try total darkness as I do really enjoy low light as well. But I also enjoy changing up the lighting/atmosphere. Most times just a few candles/oil lights… on rare occasions with the right music/friends I will break out small light rig and hazer (not a smoke machine).
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Nice TT bro'. 😉
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Eh. It's okay.
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Tonearm could be longer, for starters.
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But only if there were strobe markings on the side of the plattermhardy6647 wrote: »strobes in the base and/or platter would have been... interesting.
I don't see any 'fine-pitch-tuning' adjustment pots 
@DividedSky I will echo Tom's welcome, and glad to see you hanging around. But...I have to ask about the guy circled in this pic:
Is that merely a threaded weight to add mass, or an audio 'tweak'? I promise, I am not trying to set you up for a debate...just curious.
Always interesting to see a new brand introduced. AMG...I thought that was Mercedes Benz American Motor Group line of performance cars
It's 12 inches, dude...what are you looking for???Tonearm could be longer, for starters."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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These Sparkly Lamps have been great low-level lights for decades around here. In fact, I just placed one above my cottage fridge the other night and left it on for a while.
I've seen quite a few lava lamps in people's stereo set-ups over the years. Not in person, just on the web.
I know the lamp isn't beside my TT's but one placed there would be fine with me. I have a painting light over the center TT now for low-level. I also have that "dollar general" $2.50 light I've been using for a year just above and to the left.
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Haha! Yeah there you go, now that's a tonearm!
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Won't LED lighting give of RF interference that close? I have to unplug my Wifi antenna for my streamer & Ring security system, my cell phone booster and turn off my living room lights when playing vinyl.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
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Ok, my bad. I thought Drew was dissing the AMG tonearm...not the LED tonearm. I should know better! Move along, people...nothing to see here
Wait...still interested in that weight on top of @DividedSky 's tonearm/headshell."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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Won't LED lighting give of RF interference that close? I have to unplug my Wifi antenna for my streamer & Ring security system, my cell phone booster and turn off my living room lights when playing vinyl.
Depends on how they're driven -- LEDs are, first and foremost, diodes. Feed 'em clean DC and they shouldn't do much except light up.
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Light Emitting Diodes, to be specific, and of course, you are right (as usual) @mhardy6647.
We would need Neon bulbs (or some equivalent) in order to get a 60Hz light emission suitable for strobe timing."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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Ok, my bad. I thought Drew was dissing the AMG tonearm...not the LED tonearm. I should know better! Move along, people...nothing to see here
Wait...still interested in that weight on top of @DividedSky 's tonearm/headshell.
Thanks for the welcome! So its not a weight… it’s basically a third screw for cart mounting. It doesn’t screw down into the cartridge of course, but rather, into a washer that is designed to make the cartridge mounting a little easier.
The amg tonearm head has three slots. The two outboard slots are for typical cartridge screws. The middle is for that large “knurl” screw. The process for mounting a cart is that you use the included washer/spacer and attach the outer cartridge screws to the washer. Then you can easily attach the washer/cartridge combo unit to the tonearm head with that large screw. It just makes for a slightly easier mounting process and then it’s still very easily adjustable for alignment etc. I hope that description makes sense.
My understanding is that the company was definitely playing on the mercedes performance moniker but with a different acronym of course. That kind of move would probably bring a lawsuit here in the United States!
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These Sparkly Lamps have been great low-level lights for decades around here. In fact, I just placed one above my cottage fridge the other night and left it on for a while. I've seen quite a few lava lamps in people's stereo set-ups over the years. Not in person, just on the web.
Love the art there with that light. I had a lava lamp in my listening area for a while that I enjoyed but my daughter took it back from me and I was pissed (but it was hers).
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Thanks for explaining, Frank. It is NOT unusual for higher-end manufacturers to engineer an easier mounting process, so kudos to AMG for that. You may be aware of some 'products' that offer tiny little plugs for strategic placement on headshells for some sort of acoustic improvement. I have no direct experience with those.DividedSky wrote: »It just makes for a slightly easier mounting process and then it’s still very easily adjustable for alignment etc. I hope that description makes sense.
My understanding is that the company was definitely playing on the mercedes performance moniker but with a different acronym of course. That kind of move would probably bring a lawsuit here in the United States!
Cheers! Frank
Regarding the AMG moniker, I have no doubt that some music lovers got sucked into that vortex. We will have to depend on you to say whether it is worth the price of admission...and perhaps some comparisons to other, previous gear."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
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No problem with my Clearaudio Bluemotion just stick a submersible puck or a string of these Phillips led string lights up under the platter and look at the pretty lights. The Wife got me the puck shopping at Ross the other day she knows I like my lights when spinning some Vinyl. With the puck there is a remote with different colors, jump and Fade patterns when your listening to some of those early Floyd Albums. Cant do that with my Technics Tables.
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Light Emitting Diodes, to be specific, and of course, you are right (as usual) @mhardy6647.
We would need Neon bulbs (or some equivalent) in order to get a 60Hz light emission suitable for strobe timing.
Actually, LEDs fed AC of known frequency (doesn't have to be 50 or 60 Hz, just known and with an appropriately calibrated disc) will make a simply grand strobe.
The ol' Technics SL-Q2, e.g., uses a red LED (not the traditonial neon bulb) for its stobe -- the strobe being about as useful on a quartz-locked, non-adjustable tt (the SL-Q2) as a tachometer is on a car with an ordinary automatic transmission
DSC_2464 by Mark Hardy, on Flickr
Even incandescent bulbs will exhibit some stobe effect when they're lit with AC. The filament, of course, doesn't go completely dark as the waveform passes through zero V, but the brightness of the filament does wax and wane throughout the AC cycle, and a strobe disc can usually be read when illuminated with bright incandescent lamps in a home environment. Try it some time (if you can find an old-school incandescent bulb)!
Fluorescent bulbs (at least the old-school kind) will work OK with a strobe disc, too.
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I've been using 12 volt automotive led strips underneath my CA emotion for several years as my only tt lighting. Even with my less than stellar 66 year old eye sight it provides enough light to get the job done. As was mentioned a well shielded 12 volt power supply is a must. I found the cheapo adjustables to be one of my biggest sources of noise according to my emi meter. Even when on a different circuit and different 120 leg they would add line noise and cause problems with radio reception.
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^^^ ooh, cool idea (no pun intended)!
Could do that with the Emoticon Emotion's soulmate/cousin, the TT15S1, too...
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mhardy6647 wrote: »^^^ ooh, cool idea (no pun intended)!
Could do that with the Emoticon Emotion's soulmate/cousin, the TT15S1, too...
Cousins? I'm thinking they're more like twin brothers . They look the same to me except for the feet on the Marantz look slightly larger.
If one does choose to do the underside lighting some sort of an opaque barrier around the bottom is a must. Mine is a home made frame for the old Pioneer pl41 acrylic cover that just happens to fit the Emotion perfectly. -
Regarding the AMG moniker, I have no doubt that some music lovers got sucked into that vortex. We will have to depend on you to say whether it is worth the price of admission...and perhaps some comparisons to other, previous gear.
From what I saw, there was (thankfully) never any cheesy marketing to MB/performance car people. IMO, it came across more as just a slightly funny, slightly heady nod to good engineering.
Value discussions are so subjective, so I will just say I love the AMG. My prior tables were both vintage... Pioneer PL570 and SOTA star sapphire. I love the SOTA and still use it regularly. The AMG was a leap in imaging, transparency, backgrounds black as night, and low end performance. At AMG sticker price, the SOTA was the better value. But store demo price was (retrospectively) a no-brainer and tips the value to the AMG (for me).
A downside is that poor recordings are completely exposed and unlikely to be played much. Clean copies of used records can sometimes be a disappointment with "played-out" A sides. These things were true on the SOTA but it's dramatic on the AMG. The flip side of this is that 45rpm audiophile releases can often blow my mind apart. That's great for listening, not great for music acquisition budget . The table also really needs great isolation, so that's another add on cost.
Also noteworthy is the, ahem, nice long tonearm. That AMG 12JT tonearm is so easily adjustable in all facets from VTA to azimuth to tracking force. As someone who enjoys that "tweaking" side of analog, its a delight. The first generation of that tonearm (12J2) was similar in design but not nearly as easy to adjust (I had a loaner 12J2 for a few months).
Frank
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