Upgrading my 20 year old B&KAvR 507... need some help
tpeter
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Using my older BK receiver from around 2002 its still a damn powerhouse. I also have the same Speakers from 2002, they are the Polk LSi15s , LSIC and LSiFX for the rears. My sub is a 2002 SVS CS Ultra with Samson1000 amp and also just added a PB3000 for duals..
So as the post states... would it be worth it to buy a newer AVR? I wouldn't want to spend more then 2k max. I would add HDMI and all the new DTX and Dolby sound formats that i cant play when using my XBOX Series X along with UHD BluRays... right now my BK switches to Dolby Pro Logic 2 which is annoying but honestly i own like 2 UHD movies, the other 99% is streaming content from Netflix etc all which use Dolby Digital 5.1.
My speakers are 4ohm and the B&K powers them with no sweat playing at references levels for hours on end... That's what worries me about a 1500-2k receiver, they just seem cheaply built compared to my current. The dang thing weighs close to 60lbs !!
Thoughts?
Some other people said... Denon 3700 with a 3 channel amp
to power my front 3 would be good.. Im seeing some reviews saying the 3700 is handling 4ohm just fine.. Could i get away with just an AVR?
attached are some pics... I just moved in so havent dont cable management etc..
So as the post states... would it be worth it to buy a newer AVR? I wouldn't want to spend more then 2k max. I would add HDMI and all the new DTX and Dolby sound formats that i cant play when using my XBOX Series X along with UHD BluRays... right now my BK switches to Dolby Pro Logic 2 which is annoying but honestly i own like 2 UHD movies, the other 99% is streaming content from Netflix etc all which use Dolby Digital 5.1.
My speakers are 4ohm and the B&K powers them with no sweat playing at references levels for hours on end... That's what worries me about a 1500-2k receiver, they just seem cheaply built compared to my current. The dang thing weighs close to 60lbs !!
Thoughts?
Some other people said... Denon 3700 with a 3 channel amp
to power my front 3 would be good.. Im seeing some reviews saying the 3700 is handling 4ohm just fine.. Could i get away with just an AVR?
attached are some pics... I just moved in so havent dont cable management etc..
Polk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP.
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP.
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You will shocked by the quality of the new codexes…hd and atmos…yes upgrade: but no, an avr alone will not do it these days. What’s ur potential budget?Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
ugh i dunno , i got to be sneaky with the wife.. Just spend 2k on the Home theater chairs and 1500 on the new SUb... 2-3k maybe..Polk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP. -
Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
And here is a 7.2 great AVR with preouts and all the newest codexes: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa1070bl-rb/yamaha-rx-a1070-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver/1.html
I had an older version of that Yamaha and it is a great HT avr.Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
I have a RX-A2070 and used the Outlaw 5000 with it before I upgraded. It was a nice combo and gave me a better sound than just running my front speakers off the 2070.Yamaha RX-A2070, Musical Fidelity M6si integrated amp, Benchmark Dac1, Bluesound NODE 2i, Audiolab 6000CDT CD Transport, Parasound Zphono USB Phono Preamp, Fluance RT85, Ortofon 2M Bronze, Polk L600's, L400, L900's, RC80i's, SVS 3000 Micro, Audioquest Interconnects and Digital Cables, Nordost Silver Shadow Digital Cable, Cullen Gold and Crossover Series Power Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 12AWG OCC Speaker Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha Analog Interconnect Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 11 OCC Custom Power Cable, Signal Power Cable, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Sony 65" 900F, Sony UBP-X700, Fios, Apple TV 4K, Audioquest Chocolate HDMI Cables.
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An alternative approach is to get a 4K Blu Ray player with a full set of analog outputs and send the multichannel analog signals to your current receiver. Send the video through HDMI straight to the TV set.
Personally, I wouldn't be looking to buy a new receiver at the moment because of supply shortages and inflated prices. Used may be a better idea if you can find something like a Marantz SR8012. I consider that to be on par with B&K for audio and way better for switching. -
Here's an example of a 4K player that's intended for audio analog out...
https://www.crutchfield.com/p_133UB9000P/Panasonic-DP-UB9000P1K.html?tp=171
This approach assumes the B&K 507 has multi channel analog inputs. I think it does but the last time I looked at one was more than 15 years ago.
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what about the Monolith by Monoprice 5x200 with the Denon 3700.. I am seeing good things on this Amp with 4ohm Speakers.Polk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP. -
Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
And here is a 7.2 great AVR with preouts and all the newest codexes: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa1070bl-rb/yamaha-rx-a1070-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver/1.html
I had an older version of that Yamaha and it is a great HT avr.Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
And here is a 7.2 great AVR with preouts and all the newest codexes: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa1070bl-rb/yamaha-rx-a1070-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver/1.html
I had an older version of that Yamaha and it is a great HT avr.
Really good prices on both of thosePolk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP. -
Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
Paul,
Thanks for the "Outlaw" reminder
Pulled the trigger for my 4-atmos, for my HT revamp
2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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txcoastal1 wrote: »Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
Paul,
Thanks for the "Outlaw" reminder
Pulled the trigger for my 4-atmos, for my HT revamp
Sweet Ron! One of these days after you have it all put together I would love to come down and and have a listen! Of course I bet your wife wants to come to magnolia! Just say the word I’ll you around!Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.
Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel ampPolk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP. -
txcoastal1 wrote: »Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
Thanks for the "Outlaw" reminder
Pulled the trigger for my 4-atmos, for my HT revampI disabled signatures. -
Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.
Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp
Nice, looks like you got some good upgrades in the works!I disabled signatures. -
thanks i hope it all goes well togetherPolk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP. -
Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.
Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp
damn you peter! I just ordered that sub to replace my HSU VTF-2 mkV. I'm a dead man!!!Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.
Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp
Nice pickup. I noticed the b stock Monoliths a few days ago as well and was thinking of trying one out, the 5 channel version. I know they seem to get good reviews for HT use, but wonder if they are at least listenable with LsiM for music.
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I had that exact same setup years ago. I started with the AVR307 and then had the AVR507 ( which I still have sitting in my basement LOL ).
Anyway , Getting a AVR right now is almost impossible. The shortage issues are strong with AVR's from everyone.
To retain most of the excellent sound quality from B&K, I would look into NAD. They are the closest thing on the market that would satisfy you. Athem is also a good choice followed lastly by Marantz.
I think people get to hung up with power ratings, AVR power etc. They don't however take into consideration the room size and how Loud you actually listen at.
The LSI system is a 4 ohm and I think around 88 db. Yes that is a bit more challenging to drive IF you trying to reach reference levels. You also can run all speakers in small and retain power. Especially using the NAD, power isn't a concern. Anthem and Marantz I don't also think power is going to be an issue especially if you stay with Flagship models. Your budget allows and why not right?
BUT you will be waiting quit awhile. So I would go order a NAD, Anthem or Marantz of your choice and wait for it to come in.Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time. -
Did you not read the thread @mantis 😂Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Dan
My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.