Upgrading my 20 year old B&KAvR 507... need some help

Using my older BK receiver from around 2002 its still a damn powerhouse. I also have the same Speakers from 2002, they are the Polk LSi15s , LSIC and LSiFX for the rears. My sub is a 2002 SVS CS Ultra with Samson1000 amp and also just added a PB3000 for duals..

So as the post states... would it be worth it to buy a newer AVR? I wouldn't want to spend more then 2k max. I would add HDMI and all the new DTX and Dolby sound formats that i cant play when using my XBOX Series X along with UHD BluRays... right now my BK switches to Dolby Pro Logic 2 which is annoying but honestly i own like 2 UHD movies, the other 99% is streaming content from Netflix etc all which use Dolby Digital 5.1.

My speakers are 4ohm and the B&K powers them with no sweat playing at references levels for hours on end... That's what worries me about a 1500-2k receiver, they just seem cheaply built compared to my current. The dang thing weighs close to 60lbs !!

Thoughts?

Some other people said... Denon 3700 with a 3 channel ampc6akj1s9ayz9.jpeg
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to power my front 3 would be good.. Im seeing some reviews saying the 3700 is handling 4ohm just fine.. Could i get away with just an AVR?

attached are some pics... I just moved in so havent dont cable management etc..
Polk LSi 15
Polk LSi/C
Polk LSi/FX
SVS Ultra
SVS PB3000
Monolith 15 THX
Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
Monolith 7 AMP.

Comments

  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,296
    You will shocked by the quality of the new codexes…hd and atmos…yes upgrade: but no, an avr alone will not do it these days. What’s ur potential budget?
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    ugh i dunno , i got to be sneaky with the wife.. Just spend 2k on the Home theater chairs and 1500 on the new SUb... 2-3k maybe..
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,296
    Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html

    And here is a 7.2 great AVR with preouts and all the newest codexes: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa1070bl-rb/yamaha-rx-a1070-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver/1.html

    I had an older version of that Yamaha and it is a great HT avr.
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • Milito
    Milito Posts: 1,361
    I have a RX-A2070 and used the Outlaw 5000 with it before I upgraded. It was a nice combo and gave me a better sound than just running my front speakers off the 2070.
    Yamaha RX-A2070, Music Hall A70.2 integrated amp, Benchmark Dac1, Bluesound NODE 2i, L600, L400, Douglas Connection Alpha 12AWG OCC Speaker Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha Analog Interconnect Cables, Audioquest Interconnects and Digital Cables, Douglas Connection Alpha 11 OCC Custom Power Cable, Cullen Gold and Crossover Series Power Cables, Signal Power Cable, Furman PL-8C 15 Power Conditioner, Fluance RT85, Parasound Zphono USB Phono Preamp, Sony 65" 900F, Sony UBP-X700, Fios.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,245
    An alternative approach is to get a 4K Blu Ray player with a full set of analog outputs and send the multichannel analog signals to your current receiver. Send the video through HDMI straight to the TV set.

    Personally, I wouldn't be looking to buy a new receiver at the moment because of supply shortages and inflated prices. Used may be a better idea if you can find something like a Marantz SR8012. I consider that to be on par with B&K for audio and way better for switching.
  • Emlyn
    Emlyn Posts: 3,245
    edited October 27
    Here's an example of a 4K player that's intended for audio analog out...

    https://www.crutchfield.com/p_133UB9000P/Panasonic-DP-UB9000P1K.html?tp=171

    This approach assumes the B&K 507 has multi channel analog inputs. I think it does but the last time I looked at one was more than 15 years ago.

  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    what about the Monolith by Monoprice 5x200 with the Denon 3700.. I am seeing good things on this Amp with 4ohm Speakers.
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html

    And here is a 7.2 great AVR with preouts and all the newest codexes: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa1070bl-rb/yamaha-rx-a1070-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver/1.html

    I had an older version of that Yamaha and it is a great HT avr.
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html

    And here is a 7.2 great AVR with preouts and all the newest codexes: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/yamrxa1070bl-rb/yamaha-rx-a1070-7.2-ch-x-110-watts-a/v-receiver/1.html

    I had an older version of that Yamaha and it is a great HT avr.

    Really good prices on both of those
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,901
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html

    Paul,
    Thanks for the "Outlaw" reminder
    Pulled the trigger for my 4-atmos, for my HT revamp

    2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
    Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
    Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
    Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC

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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,296
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html

    Paul,
    Thanks for the "Outlaw" reminder
    Pulled the trigger for my 4-atmos, for my HT revamp

    Sweet Ron! One of these days after you have it all put together I would love to come down and and have a listen! Of course I bet your wife wants to come to magnolia! Just say the word I’ll you around!
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.


    Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,702
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Here’s a solid amp that would make those speakers sing: https://outlawaudio.com/shop/products/50-model-5000x-5-channel-amplifier.html
    Paul,
    Thanks for the "Outlaw" reminder
    Pulled the trigger for my 4-atmos, for my HT revamp
    Yeah, but who you gonna get to set all that stuff up for you?!? :p:D
    I disabled signatures.
  • msg
    msg Posts: 6,702
    tpeter wrote: »
    Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.

    Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp

    Nice, looks like you got some good upgrades in the works!
    I disabled signatures.
  • tpeter
    tpeter Posts: 65
    thanks i hope it all goes well together
    Polk LSi 15
    Polk LSi/C
    Polk LSi/FX
    SVS Ultra
    SVS PB3000
    Monolith 15 THX
    Denon 3700h "switching to Onkyo rz50"
    Monolith 7 AMP.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,296
    tpeter wrote: »
    Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.


    Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp

    damn you peter! I just ordered that sub to replace my HSU VTF-2 mkV. I'm a dead man!!!
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • Rich502
    Rich502 Posts: 136
    tpeter wrote: »
    Well i just bought the Monolith B stock 7 channel amp for 1399!! I am happy i saw this deal.. i then spent 999.99 on their 15inch Sub that was 340 off... Hell i didnt even need that , But guess it will replace my 20 year old SVS CS Ultra and now be paired with my svs PB3000.


    Oh and the main reason for this thread.. I pre ordered the New Onkyo receiver RZ50... I'm excited.. will have that new AVR with a great price on the 7 channel amp

    Nice pickup. I noticed the b stock Monoliths a few days ago as well and was thinking of trying one out, the 5 channel version. I know they seem to get good reviews for HT use, but wonder if they are at least listenable with LsiM for music.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,290
    I had that exact same setup years ago. I started with the AVR307 and then had the AVR507 ( which I still have sitting in my basement LOL ).
    Anyway , Getting a AVR right now is almost impossible. The shortage issues are strong with AVR's from everyone.
    To retain most of the excellent sound quality from B&K, I would look into NAD. They are the closest thing on the market that would satisfy you. Athem is also a good choice followed lastly by Marantz.
    I think people get to hung up with power ratings, AVR power etc. They don't however take into consideration the room size and how Loud you actually listen at.
    The LSI system is a 4 ohm and I think around 88 db. Yes that is a bit more challenging to drive IF you trying to reach reference levels. You also can run all speakers in small and retain power. Especially using the NAD, power isn't a concern. Anthem and Marantz I don't also think power is going to be an issue especially if you stay with Flagship models. Your budget allows and why not right?

    BUT you will be waiting quit awhile. So I would go order a NAD, Anthem or Marantz of your choice and wait for it to come in.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 7,296
    Did you not read the thread @mantis 😂
    Living Room 2.1: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Musical Fidelity A308; NAD M51 DAC; Sony UBP-x1000es; Squeezebox Touch with Bolder Power Supply
    Game Room HT: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 700 x3; Definitive Technology StudioMonitor 350; Definitive Technology ProMonitor 800; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5
    Master Bedroom
    Cambridge Azur 551r; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 16,290
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Did you not read the thread @mantis 😂
    I must have skipped a few posts as I just re read it.

    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.