Denon AVR-X1600H with RTi-A7's?

JayMX
JayMX Posts: 446
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So recently I picked up a beautiful pair of A7’s and a CSi-A4 for a buddy:
https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/194109/this-is-nuts

Now he wants a new AVR. I’ve been looking at this one from Denon:
https://www.denon.com/en-us/product/av-receivers/avr-x1600h

Looks like it’d be around 70wpc in stereo... The system isn’t in a dedicated theater space or anything, just a living room, not a critical or high end rig…. Any thoughts about this pairing? Are there better, modern options out there? He doesn’t want to spend a ton, wants “lots of HDMI”. Surround/Atmos isn’t important to him. He’ll only run it as 3.1.

Any opinions or suggestions are appreciated!

TIA

-j
Current Collection: Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 5B (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7b (Peerless), RTA15TL (SL3000), SDA CRS+ (194’s), SDA SRS 2.3TL, R100's, R200’s, R300 🤩
Pairs that have passed through: Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 5b (SL2000) (4x pair), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10b (5x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, RTA 11T, RTA12c (194's), SDA CRS, SDA 2 (2x pair), SDA 2a, SDA 2b, SDA 1b, SDA 1c, SDA SRS 2 (2x pair), SDA SRS 3.1TL (198’s) (2x pair)...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,200
    I think it will work just fine. Run them small 80hz and rely on the subwoofer for the heavy lifting and I think you'll have a Nice affordable system.
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,988
    edited September 2021
    Check rear panel for LCR pre-outs. “No pre-outs” is a deal breaker.

    My Denon AVR rated @ 100 in stereo struggles to drive my more sensitive Kefs. I wouldn’t expect they’ll drive those more power hungry A7s any better WITH a sub handling the bottom.

    Approximate sq footage?

    Make and model sub?

    My $0.02 Tony
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  • stevep
    stevep Posts: 335
    gp4jesus wrote: »
    Check rear panel for LCR pre-outs. “No pre-outs” is a deal breaker. Tony

    Typically with Denon, not until the AVR-X3X00H level. So they would be looking at a AVR-X3600H or X3700H model.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    JayMX wrote: »
    So recently I picked up a beautiful pair of A7’s and a CSi-A4 for a buddy:
    https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/194109/this-is-nuts

    Now he wants a new AVR. I’ve been looking at this one from Denon:
    https://www.denon.com/en-us/product/av-receivers/avr-x1600h

    Looks like it’d be around 70wpc in stereo... The system isn’t in a dedicated theater space or anything, just a living room, not a critical or high end rig…. Any thoughts about this pairing? Are there better, modern options out there? He doesn’t want to spend a ton, wants “lots of HDMI”. Surround/Atmos isn’t important to him. He’ll only run it as 3.1.

    Any opinions or suggestions are appreciated!

    TIA

    -j

    This setup will be serious nails on a chalk board toothpick in your ears type of thing. Definitely need a warmer and more powerful AVR…I would encourage him to look at used NAD or Marantz or Cambridge. Or at the very least a denon with preouts to add a warmer amp down the road…
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  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 446
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    This setup will be serious nails on a chalk board toothpick in your ears type of thing. Definitely need a warmer and more powerful AVR…I would encourage him to look at used NAD or Marantz or Cambridge. Or at the very least a denon with preouts to add a warmer amp down the road…

    Ten four. I was a little concerned about the paring. I will keep shopping for him. Thanks!
    Current Collection: Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 5B (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7b (Peerless), RTA15TL (SL3000), SDA CRS+ (194’s), SDA SRS 2.3TL, R100's, R200’s, R300 🤩
    Pairs that have passed through: Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 5b (SL2000) (4x pair), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10b (5x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, RTA 11T, RTA12c (194's), SDA CRS, SDA 2 (2x pair), SDA 2a, SDA 2b, SDA 1b, SDA 1c, SDA SRS 2 (2x pair), SDA SRS 3.1TL (198’s) (2x pair)...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
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  • JayMX
    JayMX Posts: 446
    edited September 2021
    Picked this up for my friend today. $200. Should do the trick. Has pre outs if he wants to go bigger…. Marantz SR-5006 in mint condition. 🤘🏻

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    Current Collection: Monitor 4a (Peerless), Monitor 5B (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7b (Peerless), RTA15TL (SL3000), SDA CRS+ (194’s), SDA SRS 2.3TL, R100's, R200’s, R300 🤩
    Pairs that have passed through: Monitor 4b (Peerless), Monitor 5a (Peerless), Monitor 5b (SL1000), Monitor 5b (SL2000) (4x pair), Monitor 7b (Peerless), Modified Monitor 7c’s (194’s), Monitor 10a (Peerless), Monitor 10b (5x pair), RTA8, RTA8TL, RTA 11T, RTA12c (194's), SDA CRS, SDA 2 (2x pair), SDA 2a, SDA 2b, SDA 1b, SDA 1c, SDA SRS 2 (2x pair), SDA SRS 3.1TL (198’s) (2x pair)...and more to come, it’s a sickness.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    JayMX wrote: »
    Picked this up for my friend today. $200. Should do the trick. Has pre outs if he wants to go bigger…. Marantz SR-5006 in mint condition. 🤘🏻

    xtwlhxeiswj3.jpeg

    That’ll do it! Nice find! As long as atmos, 4K, or more than 7.1 isn't a need, then this will be just fine.
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:     Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
    Bedroom 2.1     Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
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