If you had $4,000 for a amp????
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What about a used pair of parasound JC1s or a used JC5. Both should be available around the $4000 mark if you are patient. I love my JC5 and per parasound, all the halo stuff is "unconditionally stable down to 2 ohm".Rega Planar 8, Apheta 3 MC , Aria mk2 Phono
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guyincognito wrote: »What about a used pair of parasound JC1s or a used JC5. Both should be available around the $4000 mark if you are patient. I love my JC5 and per parasound, all the halo stuff is "unconditionally stable down to 2 ohm".
I enjoyed the two parasound amps I've owned before. HCA750A and. 2250 V2. Can a pair of Halos be had for $4K???? You mention a "Pair". -
here are some from Audiogon and they all have the make offer button.
mark levinson #335 $3977
hegel h20 $4099
Goldmund mimesis 8 $3250
parasound jc1 monos $4000
theta monos $3400
herron audio m1a monos $2395Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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here are some from Audiogon and they all have the make offer button.
mark levinson #335 $3977
hegel h20 $4099
Goldmund mimesis 8 $3250
parasound jc1 monos $4000
theta monos $3400
herron audio m1a monos $2395
Ah ****. So many more amps to research. Thanks man. All joking aside I appreciate it and will check them out. -
I'll be looking for a slightly laid back sound in the highs,, with huge bass impact. Vocals must be as true as possible.
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The Carver Ravens will be right up your alley......
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The Carver Ravens will be right up your alley......
IIRC, you and Bob built some custom right?
I do regret selling my Carver TFM45 that I had rebuilt by Greg Garska to @Gardenstater!!! -
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Twas not I Chris. Good luck getting through this phase and with your reward of a great amp and super modded Infinities. All things pass.George / NJ
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The Carver Ravens will be right up your alley......
IIRC, you and Bob built some custom right?
I do regret selling my Carver TFM45 that I had rebuilt by Greg Garska to @Gardenstater!!!
Correction it was
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The Carver Ravens will be right up your alley......
IIRC, you and Bob built some custom right?
I do regret selling my Carver TFM45 that I had rebuilt by Greg Garska to @Gardenstater!!!
Correction it was
@honestaquarian that you sold it to
Somebody call me???
(*and he ain't NEVER gettin' it back OR them white t-shirts that he packed it up in
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I'll be looking for a slightly laid back sound in the highs,, with huge bass impact. Vocals must be as true as possible.
That oh-so-doesn't sound like the "Krell" sound.
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That oh-so-doesn't sound like the "Krell" sound.
I can get that kind of sound out of my krell amp with a pair of 1616 tubes in my preamps power supply and some ken rad vt231's signal tubes in the preamp. I do agree though that krell amps can be bright, it's just harder to match with the right upstream gear. -
I see pairs of the JC1 monoblocks going used around the $4000 mark fairly regularly. The newer JC1+ is much higher but the original JC1 can be had around your price point.Rega Planar 8, Apheta 3 MC , Aria mk2 Phono
Aurender n100h, Benchmark DAC2 HGC
Arcam SR250, Parasound JC5
Revel F208, SVS SB-4000 -
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisab3a5-parasound-halo-jc-1-solid-state
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisabcfe-parasound-jc-1-monoblocks-solid-stateRega Planar 8, Apheta 3 MC , Aria mk2 Phono
Aurender n100h, Benchmark DAC2 HGC
Arcam SR250, Parasound JC5
Revel F208, SVS SB-4000 -
I'll be looking for a slightly laid back sound in the highs,, with huge bass impact. Vocals must be as true as possible.
The B&K M200 Sonata monos are all that. Good luck finding a pair for sale though. That ML 335 sounds like a beast. Don't know what they sound like though.Gustard X26 Pro DAC
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Wireworld Silver Eclipse IC's and speaker cables
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That oh-so-doesn't sound like the "Krell" sound.
I can get that kind of sound out of my krell amp with a pair of 1616 tubes in my preamps power supply and some ken rad vt231's signal tubes in the preamp. I do agree though that krell amps can be bright, it's just harder to match with the right upstream gear.
So, in addition to trying to push a brand that doesn't jive with what he's looking for....you want to push a tube preamp to use, ostensibly, as a tone control? I'm not averse to the idea of using a tube preamp and a solid state amp....I did it for years....as it offers a great compromise but using a preamp to mask the sound of an amp? Doesn't really pass the common sense test. Why not find an amp that you like in the first place and work on synergy instead of a bandaid?
Oh, and back to the RSII's.....lots of folks using the BHK amps to power Maggies. If they power Maggies, they will power about anything Infinity made. Again, I don't really care what amp he ultimately chooses and I certainly have no reason to push PS Audio....but I find your notion that PS Audio gear has the stability of a garden variety AVR a bit silly.
I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
BHK amps to power Maggie's
BHK 250 amp kept shutting down with the Maggie LRS.
for....you want to push a tube preamp to use, ostensibly, as a tone control?
Tubes are actually more linear than transistors, try running a transistor without any negative feedback. -
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A pair of JC1s would be on my list too. Since Parasound came out with the JC1+ model recently some of the previous models may be hitting the used market. Be careful though since the JC1 model has been on the market for a long time and some of the used ones may need to be refreshed by now. It's also a good idea to buy something made by a company that's still in business in case repairs/updates are needed.
I think the key here is to get an amp or amps with sufficient ability to dissipate heat through large enough heat sinks and avoid shutdowns for thermal reasons. The JC1s have that in monoblock form. Not sure I'd spend $4K on a stereo amp if I knew it would be for driving 2 ohm loads regularly. -
Para sound jc1
That's a good choice easy to match gear with and lots of power at a decent price used. -
I think the key here is to get an amp or amps with sufficient ability to dissipate heat through large enough heat sinks and avoid shutdowns for thermal reasons. The JC1s have that in monoblock form. Not sure I'd spend $4K on a stereo amp if I knew it would be for driving 2 ohm loads regularly.
That is a good point, even if your stereo amp has the power supply capable of driving low impedance loads, it only has so much heat sink area, where as a pair of monoblocks should have more area for heat sinking being only one channel per amp. -
I'll be looking for a slightly laid back sound in the highs,, with huge bass impact. Vocals must be as true as possible.
Though I’ve never played in this financial realm, this description certainly fits the house musical fidelity sound wouldn’t you agree @TroyD? And they have some high end stand alone amps (mine’s an integrated)…Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
If an amp shuts down trying to drive a pair of .7's in all but the most extreme of situations (and extreme by way of abuse)....the amp is broken. Period.
A. "Hey, I know this amp isn't what you are looking for....but, if you also toss your preamp and buy this one, and these specific tubes, well, it won't really sound like that amp any more"
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B: "Here is an amp that, on it's own merits, might fit your listening tastes (and might play well with the gear you already have)"
Ok, so you jerk your meat to Krell....a lot of folks do.....but why keep pushing an option that doesn't make sense for the OP just for the sake of your own Krell fetish?
I mean, are you this dense or just trying to make an impression?I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
I think the key here is to get an amp or amps with sufficient ability to dissipate heat through large enough heat sinks and avoid shutdowns for thermal reasons. The JC1s have that in monoblock form. Not sure I'd spend $4K on a stereo amp if I knew it would be for driving 2 ohm loads regularly.
That is a good point, even if your stereo amp has the power supply capable of driving low impedance loads, it only has so much heat sink area, where as a pair of monoblocks should have more area for heat sinking being only one channel per amp.
Oy vey. We ain't talking about trying to power a pair of Apogee Scintillas......Look, I own/have owned some pretty demanding speakers in terms of efficiency and/or impedance curves. I've had an issue with thermal shutdowns a handful of times in, what, 25 years? It's a statistical anomaly.
Find a competently designed amp of 100wpc that fits your sonic happy place...and you will have zero issues for 99.99% of your listening needs.
This whole, you gotta have 1000 wpc that doubles in power as the impedance halves down to a short circuit with heat sinks the size of a solar panel is a bunch of nonsense .....and nonsense that can get unnecessarily expensive in a hurry.I plan for the future. - F1Nut -
take a look at the stats on that goldmund amp.
Description: Solid-state stereo power amplifier. Rated power output: 125Wpc into 2 to 8 ohms (15–21dBW), 100Wpc into 1 and 16 ohms (11 & 23dBW), 250Wpc into 3 ohms (maximum) (19.7dBW), both channels driven. Maximum voltage swing: 45V peak, both channels driven. Maximum current swing: 30A peak, both channels driven. Transient Intermodulation Distortion (TID): less than 0.01% (–80dB) up to 25V output into 8 ohms. Total Harmonic Distortion (THD): less than 0.01% (–80dB) up to 25V output into 8 ohms. Frequency response: DC–100kHz, ±0.1dB; DC–400kHz, ±1dB; DC–800kHz, ±1dB (all up to rated power). Crosstalk: !w90dB, common ground. Input impedance: 50k ohms. Input sensitivity: 1.55V RMS for rated output. S/N ratio: better than 100dB, 20Hz–20kHz; better than 110dB, A-weighted. Risetime: less than 700ns. Slew rate: greater than 100V/µs. Damping factor/output impedance: not specified.
Dimensions: 19" (483mm) W by 6" (150mm) H by 21" (488mm) D including handles. Weight: 77 lbs (35kg).Amplifiers: Norma IPA 140, MasterSound Compact 845, Ayre v6xe, Consonance Cyber 800
Preamp: deHavilland Ultraverve 3
Dac: Sonnet Morpheus 2, Musical Paradise mp-d2 mkIII
Transport: Jay's Audio CDT2 mk2, Lumin U1 mini
Speakers: Rosso Fiorentino Volterra II
Speaker Cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Organic Audio Organic Reference 2
Interconnects: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2, Argento Organic Reference 2, Argento Organic 2
Power Cables: Argento Organic Reference, Synergistic Research Foundation 10 and 12 ga.
Digital cables: Crystal Clear Magnum Opus 2 bnc, Tellurium Q aes, Silnote Audio Poseidon Signature 2 bnc
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This would be my choice the P2 or anything Anthem.
https://www.anthemav.com/products-current/type=amplifier/model=p2/page=specs.The best way to predict the future is to invent it.
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I'll be looking for a slightly laid back sound in the highs,, with huge bass impact. Vocals must be as true as possible.
Though I’ve never played in this financial realm, this description certainly fits the house musical fidelity sound wouldn’t you agree @TroyD? And they have some high end stand alone amps (mine’s an integrated)…
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I'll be looking for a slightly laid back sound in the highs,, with huge bass impact. Vocals must be as true as possible.
Though I’ve never played in this financial realm, this description certainly fits the house musical fidelity sound wouldn’t you agree @TroyD? And they have some high end stand alone amps (mine’s an integrated)…
Fits it to a T.
Should’ve tagged you as well since I bought based largely on your recommendation!Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Yup....hard to find fault with Musical Fidelity amplification fo’ sho’I plan for the future. - F1Nut
