Rosso Fiorentino Elba 2

JayCee
JayCee Posts: 1,500
All you RF fans. Looks like Skip's managed a favorable review in TAS...
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/rosso-fiorentino-elba-2
"Conclusion

The Rosso Fiorentino Elba 2 isn’t a great loudspeaker for the money. It’s a great loudspeaker, period. It possesses virtues of speakers costing far more, most notably the realistic reproduction of instrumental timbre that combines ease, warmth, and harmonic richness with palpability, resolution, and musical vividness—a trick that few speakers of any price get right. This is a speaker that doesn’t sound like a hi-fi component. Rather, it expresses the beauty of music in a way that defies expectations at the price.

The Elba 2 is the kind of speaker that will benefit from high-quality sources, amplification, cabling, and AC conditioning. Even if your speaker budget is up to $15k, you should audition the Elba 2. You may be pleasantly surprised at how much performance you get for $5k, not to mention having $10k left for upgrading your associated equipment.

Owning the Elba 2 is like bringing into your living room a taste of the classical elegance and passion for beauty that Florence exemplifies. You may even find yourself exclaiming, “Bellissima!”"
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,555
    There's no doubt they are a fabulous speaker. I found they excel at most everything.
    (Edit)
    I never tried hip hop or rap.
    They may be good at that as well
  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    The only thing I did not try on them was metal like Metallica or Iron Maiden and as Ivan pointed out, rap but, everything I heard on them sounded fantastic.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,903
    I have tried Metallica on my volterras and it sounds goood :D
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,208
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.

    High praise.

    They are definitely a great speaker and should be on anyone’s list who’s looking in the $5k+ price range. I would think WAF would be pretty high as well since they’re not too large.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    I’d love to give them a whirl …

    Did the reviewer say he pulled ‘em out NINE feet from the rear wall?

    I don’t have the luxury of that kinda RE 🙄
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,651
    Mine are less than 3' out from the back wall...in fact, I am pretty sure they are less than 2', And they work wonderfully.
    The soundstage is definitely extended beyond the physical dimensions of the room in all directions. I physically do not have the room for a set of SDAs in my 2 channel system and it has been some time since I sold my 2.3TLs so my memory reference may be a bit stale but I haven't felt wanting for anything since receiving my Elba 2s.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    Appreciate the input…

    Can anyone venture a guess on the minimum distance from the rear wall?
    TIA
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  • Nightfall
    Nightfall Posts: 10,086
    I've had these Pienzas for a while now and I still get a tingly feeling in my nether regions when I listen to them.
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  • tophatjohnny
    tophatjohnny Posts: 4,182
    Great review ! And from hearing all the positive remarks from the community I bet these are every bit as great as what’s being said!
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,148
    GlennDog wrote: »
    Appreciate the input…

    Can anyone venture a guess on the minimum distance from the rear wall?
    TIA
    I would guess at least 18 inches, but honestly that's pretty room dependent. If your room is very wide where you're not loading a corner, I'd imagine you can get them a little closer. But if you've got a lot of side wall interaction I think you'll need them further out.
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  • displayname
    displayname Posts: 1,148
    erniejade wrote: »
    The only thing I did not try on them was metal like Metallica or Iron Maiden and as Ivan pointed out, rap but, everything I heard on them sounded fantastic.
    I listen to enough Metallica and similar music that I always test speakers with a couple tracks because some speakers just kill the excitement of that music by ripping apart the admittedly poor recordings, especially on their first few albums. I usually rely on Master of Puppets and Black Sabbath - War Pigs to test the classic rock energy. The Elbas don't quite give it the magic that some JBL horns do, but it's close. Nothing seems to match a good horn for Metallica and Zeppelin. But given how much better they do most other music, it strikes a nice balance for me. That applies to not only Elbas, but most Rossos from what I've heard. I'd much rather have the across the board balance from a Rosso, especially the vocal intimacy from a well recorded female vocal track, than the one trick pony of a speaker that nails those classic rock tracks.

    As a side note, rap is very fun with the Elbas. On classic rap it's always a little fun because some stuff has very obviously sampled older vinyl tracks, paired with some surprisingly decent recordings of the vocals. It's an interesting mix. But select tracks from Dr. Dre's 2001 will show you the best that rap can sound. There is much more detail in that album than a lot of people realize.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,593
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    (Edit)
    I never tried hip hop or rap.
    They may be good at that as well

    Don’t worry.........

    I got you covered *shock* (but on a previously version)..

    Sounded great! I need to get ears on them again.

    Would love to throw on some DMX or Biggie on em again lol....
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.
    High praise.

    Yep, Polk got it right 30 years ago.

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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,208
    F1nut wrote: »
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.
    High praise.

    Yep, Polk got it right 30 years ago.

    Haha. Can’t argue with that.
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.
    High praise.

    Yep, Polk got it right 30 years ago.

    Haha. Can’t argue with that.

    Ya sure? They got it right stock?
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    edited June 2021
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.
    High praise.

    Yep, Polk got it right 30 years ago.

    Haha. Can’t argue with that.

    Ya sure? They got it right stock?

    Basically, yes. Swap the higher end crossover components in the RF for generic ones and the sound won't be anywhere near the same.

    Here's an example with a current speaker, the sound of the regular Buchardt S400 is meh, IMO. The Signature version, in which the only difference is the higher end crossover components is stellar sounding. In fact, I'd call it world class.
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  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 1,581
    And so you’d think that they would bring back the Signature version, despite the increased cost.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    They bought it back.
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,789
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.

    ...Sitting in a pool of bass.....
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,300
    lightman1 wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    What I noticed listening to the Elba 2 is how similar they sound to my modded SRS SDA 2.3TL, of course sans the SDA and thunderous bass.

    ...Sitting in a pool of bass.....

    All good with some bait and a fishing pole...and a beer
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Ya sure? They got it right stock?

    Polk got the basic design right. It's not their fault that the design was decades ahead of electronic parts quality and amplifier quality. Polk had to use the parts that were available in manufacturing lot quantities at the time.

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    F1nut wrote: »
    They bought it back.

    Should have read, brought.....
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  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,026
    F1nut wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    They bought it back.

    Should have read, brought.....

    Are you going to revisit them?
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  • maxward
    maxward Posts: 1,581
    I looked…and they did, but the available finish is, um, not for everyone.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    maxward wrote: »
    I looked…and they did, but the available finish is, um, not for everyone.

    I commented on the cabinet finish in another thread. It's butt ugly.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,646
    TEAforONE wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    They bought it back.

    Should have read, brought.....

    Are you going to revisit them?

    I was planning on buying a pair, but see my post above.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


    President of Club Polk

  • TEAforONE
    TEAforONE Posts: 1,026
    F1nut wrote: »
    maxward wrote: »
    I looked…and they did, but the available finish is, um, not for everyone.

    I commented on the cabinet finish in another thread. It's butt ugly.

    I totally get it. I’m not super fussy when it comes to how a speaker looks,however there are some very well reviewed speakers that I couldn’t force my self to put in my shed if they were given to me!

    I do however find the RF Elba 2’s a gorgeous speaker. Out my price range though. :'(
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