Star Trek Discovery

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So I admit. I'm a big Star Trek Fan. And yes I was a little kid as we watched TOS on TV! IIRC after the show was syndicated I also remember at the time I, or any of my brothers and sisters, was Dad's human remote control when the clicker died!

Anyone watch the latest, Discovery? I just finished season 1, and thoroughly enjoyed it!

Set 10 years before Kirk, I loved the references to some characters, scenarios, and even guest appearances, that would appear in TOS! Season 2 is next on my list!



Edited for punctuation errors! Thanks Jimmy!

Viking64

Why did you write "brothers" and "sisters" as possessive?

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Viking64 wrote: »

Why did you write "brothers" and "sisters" as possessive?

Thank you Jimmy! Ah the new year, and my writing skills continue to be improved!

So how about the new Star Trek series?

westmassguy

Very "Woke", but also very well done. I especially like emperor Georgiou

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westmassguy wrote: »

Very "Woke", but also very well done. I especially like emperor Georgiou

I agree Dave! Yeah the woke part, but overall well done! Nice lead-ins to what lies ahead with Kirk and TOS.

Interesting, just found this link where Her Highness is doing a spin off show!
https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a25893812/star-trek-discovery-spin-off-michelle-yeoh-georgiou/

Tony M

I can't stream yet.
I think I saw where season 3 is online already.

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Tony M wrote: »

I can't stream yet.
I think I saw where season 3 is online already.

You'll love it Tony! And yes season 1 and 2 is out there for streaming!

westmassguy

Michelle Yeoh is very talented and chews through that role.

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westmassguy wrote: »

Michelle Yeoh is very talented and chews through that role.

I thought she looked familiar! I first saw her in this film:

westmassguy

She's been in a lot of films and television shows:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000706/

Hermitism

With the exception of TOS, every subsequent Star Trek series took two seasons before it got good. The first two years were pretty bad. Discovery has had the strongest first two seasons of any of the series by far, since the original. I thought season two was even better than the first season. Anson Mount (Hell On Wheels) was a great addition to the cast for season two. It made we wish that the series was about the exploits of Christopher Pike. Although Michael Burnham is an excellent character and the actress that plays her is exceptional. I purchased both seasons on disc, as I do not subscribe to CBS All Access. Just finished season two yesterday.

If I had one complaint, and this isn't really a spoiler, it's that the technology is far too advanced for the time period. This takes place between Star Trek Enterprise and TOS. Enterprise did a very good job of "dumbing down" the technology for the time period. It was believable. Discovery seems much more advanced than any Star Trek series or movie. I understand they don't want to make it look like it was made in the 60's, but they took some ambitious leaps forward in this series as far as technology goes And also in it's redesign of races and iconic ships.

westmassguy

Hermitism wrote: »

With the exception of TOS, every subsequent Star Trek series took two seasons before it got good. The first two years were pretty bad. Discovery has had the strongest first two seasons of any of the series by far, since the original. I thought season two was even better than the first season. Anson Mount (Hell On Wheels) was a great addition to the cast for season two. It made we wish that the series was about the exploits of Christopher Pike. Although Michael Burnham is an excellent character and the actress that plays her is exceptional. I purchased both seasons on disc, as I do not subscribe to CBS All Access. Just finished season two yesterday.

If I had one complaint, and this isn't really a spoiler, it's that the technology is far too advanced for the time period. This takes place between Star Trek Enterprise and TOS. Enterprise did a very good job of "dumbing down" the technology for the time period. It was believable. Discovery seems much more advanced than any Star Trek series or movie. I understand they don't want to make it look like it was made in the 60's, but they took some ambitious leaps forward in this series as far as technology goes And also in it's redesign of races and iconic ships.

Agreed on the tech. They did a great job with the uniforms and even the women's hairstyles on the Enterprise though. Very 60s

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Loved this line! Yep already into season 2!

Viking64

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Viking64 wrote: »

Why did you write "brothers" and "sisters" as possessive?

Thank you Jimmy! Ah the new year, and my writing skills continue to be improved!

So how about the new Star Trek series?

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Viking64 wrote: »

verb wrote: »

Viking64 wrote: »

Why did you write "brothers" and "sisters" as possessive?

Thank you Jimmy! Ah the new year, and my writing skills continue to be improved!

So how about the new Star Trek series?

You found Walter!

DarqueKnight

Hermitism wrote: »

If I had one complaint, and this isn't really a spoiler, it's that the technology is far too advanced for the time period. This takes place between Star Trek Enterprise and TOS. Enterprise did a very good job of "dumbing down" the technology for the time period. It was believable. Discovery seems much more advanced than any Star Trek series or movie. I understand they don't want to make it look like it was made in the 60's, but they took some ambitious leaps forward in this series as far as technology goes And also in it's redesign of races and iconic ships.

U.S.S. Discovery and Section 31 are not part of the regular Star Fleet shown in the original series, they are more comparable to the covert or special ops branches of our military, which have access to technology which is often a decade or more advanced than that normally deployed.

Advanced military technology is usually not widely deployed in the field in order to maintain secrecy and tactical advantage and to thoroughly test technology prior to widespread deployment.

The same technology time-lag scenarios are seen in commercial product development and pharmaceuticals.

With regard to the look of the U.S.S. Enterprise in Discovery, it really didn't/doesn't make sense to replicate the aesthetics of a restricted-budget 60's era television show when you are able to offer a much more advanced visual product to the viewing public and when you are financially able to more fully represent the aesthetic desired by the original producers. You may recall that the first Star Trek motion picture featured a U.S.S. Enterprise that was much sleeker externally and more luxurious and "high tech" than the original series ship. This was explained as being due to a "refit", but the practical, and real, answer is that the "plain Jane" filming model of the original series would have looked cheap, ugly, and toy-like compared to the visual effects available at the time of the movie. Indeed, the original series blu-ray set offers the opportunity to view each episode with the original 60s-era visual effects, or with modern visual effects.

An audio analogy to this is the extensive modifications I have done to my SDA SRS 1.2TLs. Some have been critical in saying that the modifications have turned the speakers into something totally unintended by the manufacturer. Actually the opposite is true. The modifications more fully realize sonic performance and aesthetic appearance that was either impractical, or impossible, to achieve in the 1980s.

BlueBirdMusic

Big Star Trek fan! Watched original while studying in college. Can never get enough of the adventure.

This is my favorite episode below of all shows. Posted previously in a different time.

We should realize time moves faster and slower for some. My favorite Star Trek episode comes from Star Trek Voyager - year 2000.

Blink Of An Eye

Stardate: Unknown


When Voyager is trapped in orbit of a unique planet, they learn that time moves far faster on that planet than in the rest of the galaxy. Although Voyager is stuck in orbit only for a matter of days, from the perspective of the planet, the "Sky ship" has been watching them for centuries, and becomes a guiding force for the development of their civilization.

http://www.tv.com/shows/star-trek-voyager/blink-of-an-eye-10771/

mhardy6647

It's good to see that they've got aerodynamic, swept-back spaceships, now.
For -- you know -- space.

westmassguy

mhardy6647 wrote: »

It's good to see that they've got aerodynamic, swept-back spaceships, now.
For -- you know -- space.

And they sound a lot better now...in space

mhardy6647

westmassguy wrote: »

mhardy6647 wrote: »

It's good to see that they've got aerodynamic, swept-back spaceships, now.
For -- you know -- space.

And they sound a lot better now...in space

Yeah -- one of my pet peeves in space movies is that sound thing.
2001 was great in that regard.

https://youtu.be/gpwvJzcfL1w

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IIRC, is the Discovery capable of atmospheric flight? Like Voyager was.

Hermitism

Let me take a stab at this. I guess with it's implausible sperrm drive, uh, spore drive it could just blink onto the surface of a planet in a "parked position". But then it wouldn't be able to turn itself upside down to reactivate it's sperrm drive to exit the planet without damaging the saucer section by plowing into the ground. Of course, the alternative universe Enterprise was capable of entering an atmosphere without crashing, submerging itself in the ocean, and getting back to orbit easily. Yeah, I don't know the answer.

Viking64

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IIRC, is the Discovery capable of atmospheric flight? Like Voyager was.

"You already have the answer."

"It can be if you believe it can."

"You will find out soon enough."

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Yeah, anything's possible! I was trying to be a little snarky toward our beloved @mhardy6647 , but failed miserably!

But, Hermit you are absolutely spot on! Anson Mount kills the role of Captain Pike! Maybe a series on the 1st 5-year mission? Ya never know. Certainly yes if there is money to be made.

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So I finished season 2! Awesome! I actually watched the last 2 episodes twice, wanting to catch all the fast action.

Wonder what they'll do for season 3?

Hermitism

Dave, have you seen the trailer for season three yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ec8WnBHes

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Thanks for sharing that Hermit! Very cool!

Hermitism

I think it's going to be hard to top season two. When I heard Spock was going to be in it, I thought it was going to be a big mistake. I couldn't have been more wrong. Such a great season. I can't wait for Picard! As short as the seasons are, compared to traditional TV, I don't think they have to worry about over saturating the market with Star Trek.

mantis

When it first came out I was excited. I watched a few Episodes and got very bored and didn't feel like it was going to get any better. Sounds like a cut out to soon.
This thread inspired me to go revisit this. I have CBS streaming and waiting on Picard so this will give me another show to dig into.

Cool guys thanks.

K_M

Watched the first 2 or 3 but lost interest.
Was so far from what I envisioned "Star Trek" to be that I was not able to just settle in and relax.

Maybe will try it again, but as Mantis says, Waiting on the Picard show!~

Clipdat

This thread reminds me that I need to re-watch all of TNG.