Looking forward to L800 but have concerns, what are your thoughts?

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,138
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    you know what they are labeled as dskip says.

    I don't speak French

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  • Viking64
    Viking64 Posts: 6,730
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    I am very adroit at telling the difference between right and.....the other right.
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,181
    edited November 2019
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    mpitogo wrote: »
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    you know what they are labeled as dskip says.
    how gauche.

  • nooshinjohn
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    Viking64 wrote: »
    I am very adroit at telling the difference between right and.....the other right.
    “Not “that” left... your military left”!
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  • WLDock
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    OK it took me a couple of seconds to find it more than it should and it’s so small. If you ask me RIGHT and LEFT should be the largest and in BOLD especially considering these are sold only as pairs! otherwise it is defective!
    Please push this out to POLK as far up the chain as you can. They need to get this corrected internally, change the boxes, and make the dealers aware.

    As stated in the other thread, they sent two of the same at the listening event in October. Problem still unresolved and I can see why given the lack of thought put into the labels.

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  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,537
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    OK it too me a couple of seconds to find it more than it should and it’s so small. If you ask me RIGHT and LEFT should be the largest and in BOLD especially considering these are sold only as pairs! otherwise it is defective!

    The Original SDA cartons were CLEARLY marked Left & Right. So simple, even a Cave Man could see it.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,163
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    They should just make it to where the speakers are identical and a switch on the back would designate left and right... Problem solved.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,163
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    Surely would be cheaper than shipping people the wrong speakers over and over
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  • monepolk
    monepolk Posts: 1,141
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    Simple color change of the boxes or labels and state no two matching colors should ever be shipped.


  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,537
    edited November 2019
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    As a point of reference, did you get L/R skip? :*

    Come on everyone, droite!
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,320
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    Correct he had a L&R. I was at his place when he was finishing up unboxing them. He checked he had them in the right spot again when he replaced the speaker cables.
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  • mpitogo
    mpitogo Posts: 479
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    So the easy fix is to get a bunch of color coded bumper stickers so a cave and can do it. And put one on the flap as a seal they have to break.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,173
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    So the easy fix is to get a bunch of color coded bumper stickers so a cave and can do it. And put one on the flap as a seal they have to break.
    That should work... :p
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  • displayname
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    VR3 wrote: »
    Surely would be cheaper than shipping people the wrong speakers over and over

    Ha, Polk is big corporate. They don't care about human mistakes. The humans can be fired and replaced. The engineering and design (including box design) checks all the boxes. Plus if it's the dealer or a shipping partner shipping it out incorrectly, they REALLY don't care. They would probably fire 50 people and drop several dealers before they redesigned a box.

    Want more evidence... look at the long history of the packing of the LSiM, which was never changed in it's product lifecycle.

    Anyway, hopefully they sort it out quickly for mpitogo. Waiting is always the hardest part!
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
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    All I'm saying is....your most expensive speaker ever and SDA Pro 2.0 reboot and you ship the wrong speaker to a pre-release listening event. :o

    I don't care what they are doing now, they need to do some redundant corrections and make it obvious to all about Left & Right pairs. One mistake too many.
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
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    Want more evidence... look at the long history of the packing of the LSiM, which was never changed in it's product lifecycle.
    That's crazy isn't it?

    I've seen shipping shock tests to destinations all around this nation by the product life cycle support from the company I work for. Packages take some serious hits and brand new boxes can look years old by the time they arrive. Several boxes, foam, cardboard changes and UPS, FEDEX still break stuff like crazy. So much so that larger packages now ship via freight instead of ground.

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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,173
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    WLDock wrote: »
    All I'm saying is....your most expensive speaker ever and SDA Pro 2.0 reboot and you ship the wrong speaker to a pre-release listening event. :o

    I don't care what they are doing now, they need to do some redundant corrections and make it obvious to all about Left & Right pairs. One mistake too many.

    So there is precedent for getting demo pairs wrong....
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  • ZLTFUL
    ZLTFUL Posts: 5,640
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    WLDock wrote: »
    All I'm saying is....your most expensive speaker ever and SDA Pro 2.0 reboot and you ship the wrong speaker to a pre-release listening event. :o

    I don't care what they are doing now, they need to do some redundant corrections and make it obvious to all about Left & Right pairs. One mistake too many.

    So there is precedent for getting demo pairs wrong....

    John, it was verified that there was a left and a right at Skip’s place...both on the cartons and in the speakers themselves.
    That isn’t to say there wasn’t some internal issue but again, the Polk rep was adamant that they were working as they should have been.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,181
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    Viking64 wrote: »
    I am very adroit at telling the difference between right and.....the other right.
    “Not “that” left... your military left”!

    Two wrongs don't make a right -- but three rights make a left.
    DSkip wrote: »

    Polk is training their dealers so this shouldn't be an issue if they are doing it correctly (as opposed to right)...
    heh, I see what you did there. They were, unfortunately, doing it right.

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    Oh, one last thought on chirality.

    Polk could come out with the Elvis Presley Signature Model.

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  • Geoff4rfc
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    monepolk wrote: »
    Simple color change of the boxes or labels and state no two matching colors should ever be shipped.


    LOL, still a fail, I ordered a cherry 706, received a cherry 706 box but it had a midnight mahogany speaker in it.....true story!
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  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 501
    edited November 2019
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    Looks like they are definitely all boxed in China ! :*
  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,138
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    Chinese vs English....no look the same

    Buy "Made in America" problem solved :)
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  • voltz
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    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    mpitogo wrote: »
    you know what they are labeled as dskip says.

    I don't speak French

    I'm French & I don't speak it either!
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  • nooshinjohn
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    voltz wrote: »

    I'm French...

    That explains everything. Please accept my condolences. ;):p

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  • pitdogg2
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  • ESavinon
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    dromunds wrote: »
    ESavinon wrote: »
    Heard them at the NY Audio show.
    The L800 are definetly among the best SDA speakers made!

    Would you please expound ?

    They have the timbre and accuracy of the polk Lsim series with the best sda articulation of all sda signature series speakers. The bass extension is unreal on the L800s!
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  • mpitogo
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    Got a hold of dealer today. They will check warehouse if they have two “left” and will call me Monday to confirm swap scheduled tentatively for Wed. Another few more days...arg
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,138
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    mpitogo wrote: »
    Got a hold of dealer today. They will check warehouse if they have two “left” and will call me Monday to confirm swap scheduled tentatively for Wed. Another few more days...arg

    Bro I feel for you.
    Way back when I moved into my new home in Galveston, I had purchased one of the 1st 55" Flat panel TVs that came into Houston. I was a dealer at the time and brought home directly from distribution. The cable guy came on Friday while we were moving in and helped me set up the TV. Fired it up screen came on for 10 seconds and went out.

    I had to wait till next week to pick up another. The cruddy part I had already gave away my other TVs before we moved. All I wanted to do after the move was pour me a spirited beverage and watch my new TV. :#:'(

    Looking forward to hearing about your new speakers ...hope they have the match in stock
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  • Hermitism
    Hermitism Posts: 4,209
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    mhardy6647 wrote: »
    I would hate to have to have a conversation about this with the dealer:

    purchaser: "I have two right speakers"
    dealer: "Right..."
    P: "No. Two right!"
    D : "OK, what do you want me to do?"
    P: "Do you have any left speakers left?"
    D : "I'm sorry?"
    P: "Left speakers. Do you have any Left?"
    D : "Right, I see..."
    P: "NO. LEFT!"
    D : Let me see if we have any Left speakers left... oh... right here we have some left -- but they're right."
    P : "Right is wrong. Is there anyone else I can speak to?"
    D : "No, I am all that's left"

    sound of P's phone being hurled against the wall


    OK, it needs work. Where's @Hermitism when we need him? He must have left. Maybe he'll be right back?
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