Will my system work?
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https://douglasconnection.com/product/furez-12-awg-2-conductor-speaker-cable-raw/
@mrloren already posted this link, but I'll share it again. I personally think it's all you need for now. If you decide later on that you want to replace the front soundstage with something better you can do it then. You may just like the sound and decide to never upgrade the cables. I'd definitely not worry about doing anything better for the surrounds.
As @rooftop59 mentioned, used is the way to go. Only issue I see is that 12' cables are going to be a little more difficult to find. If you could get away with 8' cable for the mains, I'd hook you up on the cheap with a pair of speaker cables Doug made for me that I'm no longer using.
Thanks for your advice. I’m going to repeat myself several times but, I’m greatful you are calming me down. I have been doing a lot of worrying.
Sorry for repeating myself to you but do know I appreciate you and everyone else.
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WOW! Talk about impressive, I am amazed. Do you think an amateur like me could do that?
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I see you already bought cables, so just use what you have for now until more funds become available.
I use BlueJeans Cable. Here are some options on Amazon or you can go directly to their website.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=bluejeans+cable&gclid=Cj0KCQjwoInnBRDDARIsANBVyARSXcbBL3iKeXnNVSeLG1ffkUjiY3ihOwLLAu8WmVBufkjI9QVgI_MaAsQ6EALw_wcB&hvadid=182750911438&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9002166&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=8229052990298624117&hvtargid=kwd-2995820421&hydadcr=18885_9696298&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_6de1hsqtbu_e
Thank you for the advice. I will follow it.
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Doug has some DIY stuff for you to use! can you do it? heck yes Brother ...I think you can
Doug is a great person and I am bias as he has become a great friend due to my years of going to the LSAF! he the kindest man I eve meet. He grows on you and you find yourself drawn to his room and hanging out with him
...got to love the LSAF or any audio get together that brings our fellow Polkies together!
just look at the special gathers that have been going on since the start of this forum!
it started so many years ago with Jesse and Carl and John etc.. they have been doing this since like 2001? or so with Polk Fest etc..
So much history on this Forum you chose to join, so enjoy what they have to share and give back what you can! Help these special people in making this a special forum for all to enjoy and many are straight shooters..some don't like this but it is honest stuff from many who care share with you their love of Audio!!!!
ROCK ON POLK FORUM!!!
BTW Doug knows Cables....so just text him or send a PM and he will help you from start to finish!
2 ch- Polk CRS+ * Vincent SA-31MK Preamp * Vincent Sp-331 Amp * Marantz SA8005 SACD * Project Xperience Classic TT * Sumiko Blue Point #2 MC cartridge
HT - Polk 703's * NAD T-758 * Adcom 5503 * Oppo 103 * Samsung 60" series 8 LCD -
WOW! Talk about impressive, I am amazed. Do you think an amateur like me could do that?
Be honest.
Thank you for the compliment. It took me some practice and some failures but I eventually got it down. You can do the same. Just like @DSkip said, Doug will help you. My experience with Doug is nothing short of stellar, each time!
Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Interconnects are RCA cables. You will need one going to each sub from your AVR. If you do get an amp you will need them there too.
Wood floors suck for audio. Get a through rug down and find some small ones for under the speakers and subs. Sound reflects weird off wood/tile floors
The 10awg Furez that is now in my bedroom HT was in my main HT before the AQ Type 4. Easy to make a speaker cable, just takes time.
If you want to open your options for proper speaker cables Doug would be my go to followed by Audio Advisor https://www.audioadvisor.com/products.asp?dept=26#/filter:brand:AudioQuest$25C2$25AE They do sell "no Frills" AQ for a decent price.
Then Blue Jeans https://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/speaker/index.htm I used their sub cable for some time before going to AQ, I do like the AQ better but it did cost more.
To really tell the difference in cables, change one and invite some friends over. If anyone notices then you will know there is a difference. Last time I did this a few weeks ago my daughter kind-of got mad, said she doesn't like being a test dummy. I did it at work too. I asked everybody passing through the warehouse if they noticed a difference in sound. All said the left speaker sounded way better than the right. Left speaker had the type 4 on it.
When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
Oh this is a bit off topic or on topic not trying to start a cable war/debate
I was reading on another forum where a guy said he had over $20k in hardware and only spent $200 on cables... ok bet that sounded like my bedroom HT. He referenced a video this electrical engineer did on cables don't matter. This engineer was touting that 12AWG Monoprice cable was all you need then he pulls out this Kimber cable he uses and said the only reason he uses it is for the locking banana plugs... a grand plus in speaker cable for just the $50 locking plug.. bull.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
Oh this is a bit off topic or on topic not trying to start a cable war/debate
I was reading on another forum where a guy said he had over $20k in hardware and only spent $200 on cables... ok bet that sounded like my bedroom HT. He referenced a video this electrical engineer did on cables don't matter. This engineer was touting that 12AWG Monoprice cable was all you need then he pulls out this Kimber cable he uses and said the only reason he uses it is for the locking banana plugs... a grand plus in speaker cable for just the $50 locking plug.. bull.
My "cables matter" moment happened when I had some cheap Monoprice RCA's. I don't remember what I replaced the Monoprice with, but I know it wasn't anything great by any means. Anyway, the difference in sound was very evident. From that day forward I've been a believer in cables. That being said, I know I can't hear the differences that others are able to hear (and I'm thankful that I can't
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Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.-John Wooden -
Just sitting here waiting to see how your system is now with the two SB4000When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
I wouldn’t wait to long.
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
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Just sitting here waiting to see how your system is now with the two SB4000
I just got them delivered this evening and OMG, these are monsters. I had no idea of the size of them. It may be next week before I can get enough help to get them set up. Serious, I know I’ll keep one but, don’t know if I will keep both. My other , better half isn’t too happy with the size of them. I’m kinda in Sub Woofer shock myself. Pray that my marriage of 47 years, this July, will see 47 happy years!
Really, I can’t wait to hear them and it may be a few days to get my sons-in-law to help me. I didn’t even get to unbox tonight, as my seven year old grandson had a coach pitch game and I don’t miss those games, even for new Subs.
I am excited though.
Rob
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If you give it some thought you'll figure out that lifting is not required and all it takes is one guy to set it up.Political Correctness'.........defined
"A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."
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And don't take "no" for an answer. You ordered two subs tell her you're using two subs. And you don't have to tell her I said that, I''l let you use that as your own. Get in there and make your stand...we're all here behind you.
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If you give it some thought you'll figure out that lifting is not required and all it takes is one guy to set it up.
Did u read the part where he said he’s been married 47 years?!? I would surmise that makes him at least 67. Even turning that box on it’s side or upside down may be well out of his ability...and then again maybe not, but if I were him I’d play it safe...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
Just sitting here waiting to see how your system is now with the two SB4000
I just got them delivered this evening and OMG, these are monsters. I had no idea of the size of them. It may be next week before I can get enough help to get them set up. Serious, I know I’ll keep one but, don’t know if I will keep both. My other , better half isn’t too happy with the size of them. I’m kinda in Sub Woofer shock myself. Pray that my marriage of 47 years, this July, will see 47 happy years!
Really, I can’t wait to hear them and it may be a few days to get my sons-in-law to help me. I didn’t even get to unbox tonight, as my seven year old grandson had a coach pitch game and I don’t miss those games, even for new Subs.
I am excited though.
Rob
As one married man to another, let me help a brother out. Just send that second sub to me. It’ll be 17 years on Saturday for me. I think I can get away with one of its a gift 😂😜Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
Game Room 5.1.4: Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
Bedroom 2.1 Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer -
I got into a bit of trouble when I acquired my second 120lb dual 15" driver sub. The real beauty is the science. The more subs you introduce to your system, the more even the bass response is......Once I explained that to the offended and then gave a demo after set up, the offended surprisingly admitted that they were impressed.Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Those are not as big once un-boxed. Bummer I'm not closer. I enjoy helping people set up their systems.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
If you give it some thought you'll figure out that lifting is not required and all it takes is one guy to set it up.
Did u read the part where he said he’s been married 47 years?!? I would surmise that makes him at least 67. Even turning that box on it’s side or upside down may be well out of his ability...and then again maybe not, but if I were him I’d play it safe...If you give it some thought you'll figure out that lifting is not required and all it takes is one guy to set it up.
Are you crazy! I’m only 33!
Well ok, you figured me out but missed it by one year. We both went to school (college) for one year and then got married. She went to work and supported us while I was in school. I’ll tell you that sometimes, I mean very few sometimes, you can go up the ladder to success without a degree. My wife worked at Well Fargo and when she retired, was a Senior VP, and at the end of our work careers, she was making three times the money that I was. Just remember to anyone that may want to drop out of college, she definitely beat the odds. I’m very proud of her and her successes.
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Those are not as big once un-boxed. Bummer I'm not closer. I enjoy helping people set up their systems.
I may willing to pay for your airplane ticked to get your help. You, along with everyone else have been so kind.
I’m hoping that they are not as large as the boxes. I’m looking at a lose of half of my seating area if they are as big as what I imagined when I saw the driver unloading them.
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I got into a bit of trouble when I acquired my second 120lb dual 15" driver sub. The real beauty is the science. The more subs you introduce to your system, the more even the bass response is......Once I explained that to the offended and then gave a demo after set up, the offended surprisingly admitted that they were impressed.
Im counting on that because that look has frozen on her face since last night.
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Just sitting here waiting to see how your system is now with the two SB4000
I just got them delivered this evening and OMG, these are monsters. I had no idea of the size of them. It may be next week before I can get enough help to get them set up. Serious, I know I’ll keep one but, don’t know if I will keep both. My other , better half isn’t too happy with the size of them. I’m kinda in Sub Woofer shock myself. Pray that my marriage of 47 years, this July, will see 47 happy years!
Really, I can’t wait to hear them and it may be a few days to get my sons-in-law to help me. I didn’t even get to unbox tonight, as my seven year old grandson had a coach pitch game and I don’t miss those games, even for new Subs.
I am excited though.
Rob
As one married man to another, let me help a brother out. Just send that second sub to me. It’ll be 17 years on Saturday for me. I think I can get away with one of its a gift 😂😜
Thanks for the offer. You know, everyone is so kind on this forum. Some in different ways!
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If you give it some thought you'll figure out that lifting is not required and all it takes is one guy to set it up.
Yes, F1nut, after reading your post I went to You Tube and it appears that maybe I can do it. The main thing for me is final placement. Thank goodness that we have two beautiful daughters and their husbands make me look like a midget. No offense meant to any of my (including me ) small forum friends.
These guys sure designed a good shipping box.
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Thanks for the offer. You know, everyone is so kind on this forum. Some in different ways!
That could be this forum's motto!
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Im counting on that because that look has frozen on her face since last night.
LOL, I know that look well!! Just don't make the almost fatal mistake that I made:
I called the offended down to take a listen one time, I was so proud of the LFE my A9's were putting out during a particular scene, and I told her, "did you feel that??? I took the subs out and that was just the A9's"...…..she looked at me with a less than impressed face and asked, "so why do we need the subs again??"
Talk about fast talking and back peddling, I learned never to make that horrible mistake again
Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman -
Those are not as big once un-boxed. Bummer I'm not closer. I enjoy helping people set up their systems.
I may willing to pay for your airplane ticked to get your help. You, along with everyone else have been so kind.
I’m hoping that they are not as large as the boxes. I’m looking at a lose of half of my seating area if they are as big as what I imagined when I saw the driver unloading them.
No they are packed very good.
Hmm, Tempting but it is to be a rainy weekend here in San Diego and I have season 8 of GoT calling me once honey-do's are done.When I was a kid my parents told me to turn it down. Now I'm an adult and my kids tell me to turn it down.
Family Room:LG QNED80 75", Onkyo RZ50 Emotiva XPA3 GEN3 Oppo BDP-93,Sony UBP-X800BM. Main: Polk LsiM 705Center: Polk LSiM 704CFront High/Rear High In-Ceiling Polk 80F/X RT Surrounds: Polk S15 Sub: HSU VTF3-MK5
Bed Room; Marantz SR5010, BDP-S270Main: Polk Signature S20Center: Polk Signature S35Rear: Polk R15 Sub: SVS SB2000
Working Warehouse; Yamaha A-S301, Sony DVP-NS3100ES for disc Plok TSX550T SVS PB2000 Mini tower PC with 400GB of music -
Well, suppose to be in 90’s all next week here. Seriously, thanks fo all of your help.
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Here too. Not looking forward to that.
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My 4000 arrived today, and, though I was able to move it in to place on hardwood floors, it was still a lot of work. Waiting for the son-in-laws is probably a smart thing. If you ordered the upgraded feet then you will have to turn it upside down, and, when you turn it back over it won't move as easily with the new feet.
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And don't take "no" for an answer. You ordered two subs tell her you're using two subs. And you don't have to tell her I said that, I''l let you use that as your own. Get in there and make your stand...we're all here behind you.
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I must say @Romo11, you are one of the best "newbs" we've had come here in some time. Most show up hoping we will validate their poor choices, then get PO'd when the advice given doesn't match up. I'm certainly not an expert, but I'm glad you have recognized we are trying to steer you in the right direction. Refreshing!
