Dishwasher?? Best to buy??
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joecoulson wrote: »Miele’s run about 36-38db FWIW
In Consumer Reports testing, Miele's rated high in reliability, but fell down to 35th place overall out of 134 models tested for their highest rated dishwasher. And their quietest models tested were rated at 45 db at best. Bosch held 11 of the top 12 places and had some models rated at 39 db. We considered Miele, but they were expensive and not as quiet as the Bosch. They did have one model, at $2500, that was tested at 38 db, but so did Bosch, and its cost was only $800. The one we ordered was rated at 39db and the cost was $1200, so it was an easy choice for us to make.McIntosh MA252 Integrated Amp, LUMIN D2 Network Music Player, Yamaha Aventage RX-A840 receiver, Emotiva XPA Gen3 2 channel amp, Polk LSiM 703 speakers. Oppo UDP-203 Blu-Ray player, Polk LSiM 705 speakers. Polk Signature S20 speakers. -
Anything around 40 is good, Imo. Mine is rated at 43 and I can barely tell its running...
Some of the contractor grade stuff we install sounds like a freaking train, easily 70db or more... Honestly couldn't imagine that as you can't even run it at night- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I find it somewhat ironic that folks interested in cranking the dB's are concerned about the dB level of their dishwasher.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I find it somewhat ironic that folks interested in cranking the dB's are concerned about the dB level of their dishwasher.
There are good dbs and bad dbs. Kind of like cholesterol. It's all about db management!
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I find it somewhat ironic that folks interested in cranking the dB's are concerned about the dB level of their dishwasher.
Says someone who invested in a high end TT...to what gain? -
Mark it’s funny. I purchased a Miele about 3 years ago for $1500. It’s prob real world 40db. Super quiet. My brother in law purchased the higher end Bosch and it’s not as quiet but on paper the Bosch won the noise contest.
Probably changed now.
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You can't even tell this Bosch is running, super quiet.. as Jesse stated It does take longer to dry but we run it at night 99% of the time so I don't see this being an issue..Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎
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Jesse, my statement was meant tongue in cheek. It came off as turse now that I look back. Was not my intention. Apologies
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We recently got a Bosch 800 series. Our model is rated for 42db and I can barely hear it. My wife and I both occasionally open it while it's running because we don't notice that it's running. I've been really happy with the way it cleans. It had an odd odor for the first month or so. Online research suggests that it is related to the material they use for sound deadening that has an odor when it heats up. It seems to have less of that odor now, or maybe I've gotten used to it. Still quite happy with it overall.
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Who cares about dB's, just as long as the THD is low, it's all good.Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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I have to go against the crowd here and say that my near totl Bosch is pretty frustrating. It is super quiet, but it doesn’t clean all that well, and it takes FOR-EV-ERRRRRR. And then the dishes are still wet. And the most frustrating thing is that the racks just don’t seem to be arranged very well...Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
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Bosch, super quiet and reliable.
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Very happy with our new Bosch. Which is nowhere near the TotL, db's are about 50, but unless I am right beside it, I can't hear it.
It has different wash cycles ranging from 30 mins. to 2hrs. 15 mins. We almost always use the 30 min. cycle and the dishes are clean. Having said that, we do slightly pre-rinse the worst of them before loading them. -
I find it somewhat ironic that folks interested in cranking the dB's are concerned about the dB level of their dishwasher.
When I had my kitchen remodeled I intentionally omitted a dish washer. In so far as the noise level, just because one might like loud music does not mean they like other noise. I moved my refrigerator to the garage to eliminate the background noise from it. One of the better things I did to the kitchen. Now I have a wine rack in the space.
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I find it somewhat ironic that folks interested in cranking the dB's are concerned about the dB level of their dishwasher.
When I had my kitchen remodeled I intentionally omitted a dish washer. In so far as the noise level, just because one might like loud music does not mean they like other noise. I moved my refrigerator to the garage to eliminate the background noise from it. One of the better things I did to the kitchen. Now I have a wine rack in the space.
You took the fridge out of the kitchen and moved it to the garage ? Why have a kitchen at all then ?HT SYSTEM-
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I find it somewhat ironic that folks interested in cranking the dB's are concerned about the dB level of their dishwasher.
When I had my kitchen remodeled I intentionally omitted a dish washer. In so far as the noise level, just because one might like loud music does not mean they like other noise. I moved my refrigerator to the garage to eliminate the background noise from it. One of the better things I did to the kitchen. Now I have a wine rack in the space.
You took the fridge out of the kitchen and moved it to the garage ? Why have a kitchen at all then ?
Pretty stupid question. To cook breakfast, lunch, and dinner are three immediate reasons. Then you need to wash the dishes, other utensils, and store them.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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So you have to go to the garage then, to get all your ingredients to cook with ? Sorry Bud, doesn't make sense to me. The proximity of the fridge, when cooking is just as important as the remote when watching TV. You don't keep the remote in the garage too do you ?
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So you have to go to the garage then, to get all your ingredients to cook with ? Sorry Bud, doesn't make sense to me. The proximity of the fridge, when cooking is just as important as the remote when watching TV. You don't keep the remote in the garage too do you ?
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How difficult is it to bring the ingredients into the kitchen, and put them away when done? It isn't, assuming you aren't super lazy.Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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I have to go against the crowd here and say that my near totl Bosch is pretty frustrating. It is super quiet, but it doesn’t clean all that well, and it takes FOR-EV-ERRRRRR. And then the dishes are still wet. And the most frustrating thing is that the racks just don’t seem to be arranged very well...
Our mid upper level one cleans fantastic.
We regularly use "Finish" in ours.
I am not sure how your dishes would still be wet, but all Bosch's heat the final rinse super hot and the water evaporates fairly quickly, in fact we have to wait about 15 minutes to even touch the dishes they are so hot, but hardly any wetness, UNLESS a plastic bowl flips over and fills with water. -
I think the 800 series is the sweet spot in the Bosch line.
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Just throwing this out. My Whirlpool does a great job cleaning and has been trouble free for over 15 years.
Whirlpool seems to make top notch products. We have 2 a Microwave and a Stove.Dan
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