Assuming you are using the analog outs, let us know how those dual Wolfsons sound after they get some more time on them.
Yup, using the analog outs in my system. If the DAC opens up further I'll be very pleased, because I'm very happy with it right now for this price point.
Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
Harman Kardon HK 3770 > JBL Studio 580 + SVS SB12-NSD or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX Discogs
Apple AirPort Extreme.
Maybe it’s mine but give it time as you have only had it a day or so. You may or may not have those issues but I have read on other sites people had some crashes too.
Not a big deal as I have said before. Just not flawless.
The issue with most app failures and crashes is network driven, not app driven. This is true with AURALiC, Lumin, and I highly suspect with Cambridge as well.
To elaborate, these apps are very sensitive to your network - more sensitive than your streaming devices or computers. I had similar issues frequently but have had none since upgrading my network router. This is a common issue and the hardest thing to convince clients of.
Good point Skip, and totally agree. The more streaming your doing the better your network needs to be. Overlooked by many.
HT SYSTEM-2 channel
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Dynaudio Audience 72
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cary xciter dac
Cullen modded Sonos
Joule la-100 pre
B&k Ref 4420 amp
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
It supports up to 192 but doesn't do MQA. It unfolds it the way it knows how. I have tried two 384 files and neither the CXN or 851N was able to play it. It makes sense given the limitation. Just because it doesn't say MQA doesn't mean you aren't getting the higher bitrate.
What router are you using? I've had zero issues so far multitasking on my phone.
I would like to amend this as I played more with them. If you use the internal DAC the 851N can play up to 384 khz files. When it was streaming them to my Norma DAC (limited to 192) the file was unable to play.
I got mine today and it works like a charm although having Phil Collins staring at me from the little screen is kinda creeping me out. Good sounding right off the bat, got to spend some time with it. It's playing with itself right now.
Let's hope the CXN is the only one doing that right now.
Same on CXN
2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd
5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote
Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
Audioquest Red River. From CXN to PS A stellar
I have the same kind in 3m going from output on PS A to my SVS
It has about a 6db Gain over RCA in this particular setup FYI.
2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd
5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote
Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
Also note that with the remote/app, you only have 8 channels for presets, but if you use the admin page to connect, you have 20
2ch: PS Audio Stellar Gain pre, 4 x Linn LK240 monoblocks ( bi-amping) Elac Adante AF-61's, SVS SB16 Ultra Subwoofer, Cambridge Audio CXN v2, Rega Planar 2 with Canaro 2 subplatter, dual belt pulley and upgraded bearing, Rega Ania MC cart, Vincent PHO 701 Phono pre with Mullard NOS 12au7, Audioquest Niagara 1000, AQ Thunder, AQ red river XLR's and Victoria IC's, Wireworld Stratus and Aurora power cables, Atlas EOS power cable, Denon 2910 (as transport) Sony CPD355 Jukebox cd
5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote
Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
Audioquest Red River. From CXN to PS A stellar
I have the same kind in 3m going from output on PS A to my SVS
It has about a 6db Gain over RCA in this particular setup FYI.
Those are spensive! I am thinking about trying some economical ones with my secondary system so I don't want to spend too much. Probably get some BJC's to replace the BJC RCA's.
What a piece of kit! This streamer is working surprisingly well with my sortta HT system. Soundstage wide as hell and imaging are crazy and getting better as it plays. Havent run into a tune that it hasn't handled so far. I know I have some dog recordings in there but haven't got to em yet. On a scale of yes to no this is big "buy"! I already want it's big brother. I say "good move" picking thes guy up Skipper!
I haven't managed to unbox mine yet even though it arrived on Tuesday. Hopefully tomorrow.
"Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
No affiliation with Cambridge. This is a sweet piece of kit. I want to rearrange stuff to get my Cambridge spinner on the same system. It is still doing everything with aplomb. Whatever the hell that is.
Not to scab on the thread but what is the difference between the 851N and the CXN?
Home System: see
SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
800 Va Dreadnought
Cambridge Audio Azur 851N
B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
Cambridge Audio DVD 99
Sangean HD FM Tuner
Barn system:
SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
Carver C-1 pre
Carver M1.5t
It may support apple files, from a stick, Nas, but can it pull it wirelessly from a PC ? That's the crux of the matter and a deal killer for some.
Listen up newb. Let me give it to ya straight. If it can airplay, it can pull files from a pc running iTunes airplaying the files to the Cambridge. Capisce? Furthermore, no real audiophile would store their music files in Apple format. FLAC files for the win!!!
Now pardon me while I hide in the bomb shelter...
HT Rig:
Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
; Master Bedroom
Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
Home System: see
SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
800 Va Dreadnought
Cambridge Audio Azur 851N
B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
Cambridge Audio DVD 99
Sangean HD FM Tuner
Barn system:
SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
Carver C-1 pre
Carver M1.5t
Not to scab on the thread but what is the difference between the 851N and the CXN?
Different DAC, upgraded power supply, AES digital input and additional coax and toslink inputs, slightly different remote for the Azure 851 line, probably a few other things I'm not aware of.
@DSkip had a 851N set up along side my CXN when I went to pick it up from him. He's had a little more time with both units than I had so he could possibly elaborate.
Analog: MoFi MasterTracker > MoFi UltraDeck > Sutherland 20/20
Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
Harman Kardon HK 3770 > JBL Studio 580 + SVS SB12-NSD or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX Discogs
The 851N is far superior in every regard except for functionality. They are both extremely snappy to a request and navigate similarly. It is well worth the $600 to move up to the 851N if it is within budget. The CXN is a nice unit and if you use an external DAC the difference will be much more subtle.
Not to scab on the thread but what is the difference between the 851N and the CXN?
Different DAC, upgraded power supply, AES digital input and additional coax and toslink inputs, slightly different remote for the Azure 851 line, probably a few other things I'm not aware of.
@DSkip had a 851N set up along side my CXN when I went to pick it up from him. He's had a little more time with both units than I had so he could possibly elaborate.
And aside from better Dacs .. It's built like a little tank. .mine isn't going anywhere soon. I don't move fast with anything😂😂
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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@audioluvr I am really happy with this piece, I think I may end up running it in my main system. That won't happen for a while but I would love to compare it to my Aries Mini head up.
Comments
Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
Harman Kardon HK 3770 > JBL Studio 580 + SVS SB12-NSD or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
Discogs
Good point Skip, and totally agree. The more streaming your doing the better your network needs to be. Overlooked by many.
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Dynaudio Audience 72
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cary xciter dac
Cullen modded Sonos
Joule la-100 pre
B&k Ref 4420 amp
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Analysis plus crystal oval ic's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
B&k 1430
Tad 803 speakers
I would like to amend this as I played more with them. If you use the internal DAC the 851N can play up to 384 khz files. When it was streaming them to my Norma DAC (limited to 192) the file was unable to play.
Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
Cabling: Wireworld
TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
Let's hope the CXN is the only one doing that right now.
Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
Cabling: Wireworld
TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
It is Valentine’s Day. Let em play!!!😬
Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
;
Master Bedroom
Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
I would play some pocket pool but I'm not wearing any pants
Same on CXN
5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote
Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
I have the same kind in 3m going from output on PS A to my SVS
It has about a 6db Gain over RCA in this particular setup FYI.
5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote
Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
5.1: Marantz sr5003 (feeding mains through HT bypass) Sonus Faber solo center, AQ Carbon HDMI's, Sony XBRx900E, Xbox One S as 4k player, Definitive Technology SM350's surrounds, Tivo Bolt, Harmony Elite remote
Other gear: Totem Rainmakers (not hooked up) Sonos play 5 and play 1's x 2, Audio Technica TT and Edifier active speakers in kids room, JVC XM448 minidisc rack mount, Sony minidisc walkman, Project Debut III (currently not working), Samsung 46, and 2 x32" tvs, Samsung Soundbar, Okki Nokki LP cleaner, Second Harmony remote setup for bedroom, etc etc
Those are spensive! I am thinking about trying some economical ones with my secondary system so I don't want to spend too much. Probably get some BJC's to replace the BJC RCA's.
Yamaha Aventage RX-A 1060, Parasound P5, Parasound A23, Yamaha BD-S681, Auralic Aries Mini, Polk S60, Polk S30, Samsung 60" LED
Office
B&K Ref 50, B&K 200.2, Chromecast, LSiM 703s
Douglas Connection ICs and Cables
Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
Cabling: Wireworld
TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
800 Va Dreadnought
Cambridge Audio Azur 851N
B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
Cambridge Audio DVD 99
Sangean HD FM Tuner
Barn system:
SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
Carver C-1 pre
Carver M1.5t
Listen up newb. Let me give it to ya straight. If it can airplay, it can pull files from a pc running iTunes airplaying the files to the Cambridge. Capisce? Furthermore, no real audiophile would store their music files in Apple format. FLAC files for the win!!!
Now pardon me while I hide in the bomb shelter...
Denon AVR-X4200w; Peachtree Audio NovaPre; B&K TX4430; Bryson BPD-1; Mains: Dynaudio Emit 10; Center - Polk cs400i; Heights, Center Surround - Klipsch KHC - 6 In-Ceiling; Surrounds - Monoprice in-ceiling; Sub - HSU VTF-2 MK5; LG UP870 4K BDP; NVidia ShieldTV
;
Master Bedroom
Marantz SR-5007; Parasound HCA-1000A, PSB Imagine B, NHT Super One CI surrounds, Martin Logan Dynamo (original), Squeezebox Touch
Ju talking to me??? Which way?
Sure "guts"
SDA 1C's - Full mod with the help by Dave...
WireWorld Mini-Eclipse 7 speaker cables
800 Va Dreadnought
Cambridge Audio Azur 851N
B&K M200 Sonata Monoblocks
BLE-Design 16mm Power Cables
Cambridge Audio DVD 99
Sangean HD FM Tuner
Barn system:
SDA SRS 2.3's Full mod done by myself
Carver C-1 pre
Carver M1.5t
@DSkip had a 851N set up along side my CXN when I went to pick it up from him. He's had a little more time with both units than I had so he could possibly elaborate.
Digital: Sony CDP-CE375 / Streaming > Cambridge CXN v2
Harman Kardon HK 3770 > JBL Studio 580 + SVS SB12-NSD or Arcam rHead > Hifiman HE4XX
Discogs
Speakers: Harbeth: 30.2, SHL5+; Usher: Be-10, T-515; Rosso Fiorentino: Elba, Pienza, Certaldo, Fiesole, Volterra; Polk: T50, Signature S15, RTA 15tl, RTi12; Sonner Audio Allegro Unum, Legato Unum, Legato Semis, Legato Duo; Emerald Physics CS-2.8; Klipsch KLF-20
Preamps: Shuguang S200MK, Dayens Ampino, Parasound P5
Amps: Shuguang S845MK, Dayens Ampino Monoblocks, Parasound A23
Integrateds: Triode Corporation TRV-88SER, MastersounD: BoX, Dueventi, Compact 845, Evolution 845; North Star Design Blue Diamond
Sources: AURALiC Aries, Denon HEOS Link, North Star Design: Magnifico, Supremo, Incanto, Intenso, Venti
Cabling: Wireworld
TV: Sony XBR-75X940C
And aside from better Dacs .. It's built like a little tank. .mine isn't going anywhere soon. I don't move fast with anything😂😂
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