LSiM703's or 705's?

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  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,197
    txcoastal1 wrote: »
    imsjry wrote: »
    Now what the heck to do with the RTi12s when sales like this are going on?!

    Help and friend or family member get a system started...congrats on new speakers

    That's what I do with my old gear, I just give it away to someone who will enjoy it.
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  • tlainharttlainhart Posts: 41
    Great deal.
  • Rich502Rich502 Posts: 101
    imsjry wrote: »
    Got them for $999.00!! Can’t wait to hook em up. Thanks for all the input folks.

    Congrats, that’s an incredible deal. Let us know how you like them compared to your RTi’s once broken in.
  • imsjryimsjry Posts: 77
    So how long would you say the break in period is in hours?
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    100-200, but you will start seeing positive changes from 10-50
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  • spongersponger Posts: 321
    I can't believe I missed it before, but I just noticed Miles there in the corner. His trumpet is going to sound real sweet through those speakers. Congratulations and remember to post pics. The LSiM will look great in that living room.
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  • spongersponger Posts: 321
    Looks like it's been a couple of weeks. Any update? First impressions?
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  • halohalo Posts: 4,748
    They may do even better if you can pull them farther away from the front wall.

    Also, I would agree that when your budget permits, new/different preamp would be in order. Plenty of time, don't rush it. Enjoy the 705's!
  • pawelmwopawelmwo Posts: 51
    Do folks usually listen with the speaker grill off? or is that just for picture taking? I notice a lot of those type of shots go up.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    pawelmwo wrote: »
    Do folks usually listen with the speaker grill off? or is that just for picture taking? I notice a lot of those type of shots go up.

    I can't fully explain it, but I'm a grilles on kind of guy.

    I think sometimes depending on the type of grille, there will be an acoustic change. Seems like that's just physics. No grille material is technically completely transparent on a molecular level.

    As a side note, I recall Jesse mentioning that some speakers are designed/voiced to be listened to with the grilles in place, so that is something to consider as well.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • halohalo Posts: 4,748
    edited January 26
    pawelmwo wrote: »
    Do folks usually listen with the speaker grill off? or is that just for picture taking? I notice a lot of those type of shots go up.
    Clipdat wrote: »

    As a side note, I recall Jesse mentioning that some speakers are designed/voiced to be listened to with the grilles in place, so that is something to consider as well.

    My new KEF speakers don't come with speaker grills (If you want them, you have to purchase them separately). As a matter of fact, none of the new KEF speakers in the Q series include the speaker grills so, I guess, the voicing part Jesse & Drew mention must depend on the designer/manufacturer.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 41,042
    If they include grills and they weren't voiced with them on then they were not voiced properly.
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  • imsjryimsjry Posts: 77
    pawelmwo wrote: »
    Do folks usually listen with the speaker grill off? or is that just for picture taking? I notice a lot of those type of shots go up.

    I just think they look cool without the grills. No idea if there is a sonic benefit but now curious!
  • cfrizzcfrizz Posts: 13,197
    I always have my grills on.
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  • joecoulsonjoecoulson Posts: 1,802
    edited January 27
    Grilles off. Love seeing actual drivers.
    As soon as little kids around, back on they go.
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  • Geoff4rfcGeoff4rfc Posts: 1,600
    imsjry wrote: »
    limited. Overall I’d say I made a big musical improvement with the 705s from the RTis.

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    Good for you and congratulations! Just a couple of short years ago (man, already?), I went from RTiA9's to the 703's for 2ch. I had groomed my A9's fairly extensively for 2ch. One member here can attest as he's been over for a listen. Even since then I had configured my own interconnects in an effort to improve the signal.

    So it wasn't night n day difference but I would agree with your statement of refinement and smoothness. And depending on how much bass you want/need, as mentioned before in this thread, the 703's produce surprising LFE so I'm pretty happy with them. I figure if I ever go tower it'll be the 707.


    Congrats again and many happy tunes!
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  • jeremymarcinkojeremymarcinko Posts: 3,337
    Looks good. Much nicer speakers than the 12s...they may take some dialing in though. Definitely more potential than the RTIs.
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  • imsjryimsjry Posts: 77
    Thanks guys. Loving them so far!

    Except now the B&K 3030 I bought to drive them is on the fritz so they're hooked back up to my old Kenwood KA8004 integrated. I know everyone says the LSiM's need lots of power, but I honestly cannot tell THAT much of a difference between the B&K or the Kenwood driving them.

    They seem WAY more efficient then the RTi12's. Based on my ears, I may actually send the B&K back to it's seller. I just don't think (hear) that it's doing me much good with the 705's.
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    edited February 3
    One possible theory: The reason you didn't hear a big difference is because you were using the Kenwood as a preamp.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • imsjryimsjry Posts: 77
    edited February 3
    Clipdat wrote: »
    One possible theory: The reason you didn't hear a big difference is because you were using the Kenwood as a preamp.

    Touché. I guess my thought was no matter what the Preamp source was, the B&K delivering all that extra power to the 705s should have been a noticible difference that just using the intigrated. I do have a Yamaha CX-1 preamp on its way however, I might not have a power amp to hook it up to for a while. 😞
  • ClipdatClipdat Posts: 5,691
    Assuming you listen at "normal" levels of 65-80db, it's possible that you are only realistically using 1 or 2 watts.

    So it becomes less about "all that extra power" and more about the "quality" of that power.

    Also it can't be stressed enough how much difference a good preamp makes.
    • "Electronic music is human sound adapting to indulge technology, and for some, it feels like the signature sound of energy. New and abstract sounds over hypnotic rhythms can conjure vast soundscapes for escape, pleasure, and transcendence."
  • imsjryimsjry Posts: 77
    Clipdat wrote: »
    Assuming you listen at "normal" levels of 65-80db, it's possible that you are only realistically using 1 or 2 watts.

    So it becomes less about "all that extra power" and more about the "quality" of that power.

    Also it can't be stressed enough how much difference a good preamp makes.

    I do have a Yamaha CX-1 preamp on its way however, I might not have a power amp to hook it up to for a while. 😞 If the B&K gets sent back, I’m back to the drawing board searching for good used power amps.
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