Elac Adante AF-61 (took some diy to make perfect)
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Would like to get my ears on the bookshelf version at some point.
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Me too. They are beasts. 19x10x16 and 35lbs!
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The bookies and center seem like a nice setup for a Movie / Music system.2.2 Office Setup | LG 29UB55 21:9 UltraWide | HP Probook 630 G8 | Dell Latitude | Cabasse Stream Amp 100 | Boston Acoustics VS 240 | AUDIORAX Desk Stands | Mirage Omni S8 sub1 | Mirage Omni S8 Sub2
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Yeah. I want the center. But I’m not paying retail for it. $2400 with the stand!
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So at the gathering with @treitz3 and @jdjohn , besides finding out about the resistance anomaly between the two sets of binding posts on each tower (see thread https://forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/184184/non-jesse-approved-bi-amping ) Tom realized another issue. He was in the listening position when all of a sudden he jumped up and started stacking pillows where he was sitting. Since he had already been throwing pillows around the room trying to redecorate, I left him to it - but no something else was afoot. The Elac towers are quite tall - 52"+. The midrange and tweeter are concentric, so that whole upper register of sound is coming at you from close to 4' off the ground. The Elac driver does a good job of throwing the sound out, but Tom's keen ears heard it improve when he sat on the mountain of pillows he had created.
So I did have the spike plates that came with the speakers (for using the outrigger feet on hardwood) and I added them to the back feet only. This tilted the tower forward a few degrees. Just enough to get that tweeter pointing right above the ear, but perfected the imaging. The front feet are still spiked so they are at least half coupled to the floor though the carpet.
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Next time we'll have to get Tom a booster seat
Ya know, it's funny you mention this since, when we were leaving, I thought I noticed the Elacs being tilted more forward than I recalled. I wasn't just imagining it! I was probably cleaning some records on the Okki Nokki when you guys made the change. "This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
... hope the neighbood's seismically quiescent.
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Ah yes, the forward tilt. Good stuff.
Tom has a sharp ear but he's also crazy 😜- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
mhardy6647 wrote: »... hope the neighbood's seismically quiescent.
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Ah yes, the forward tilt. Good stuff.
Tom has a sharp ear but he's also crazy 😜
Please god say there wasnt tequila there.... if so..... keep any further commentary, or photos to yourself "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
Vulcans had (have) sharp ears, as I recall.
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Ok - testing the Polk forum's waters here - any interest in buying these? would be willing to meet at a certain distance but first wanted to make sure the buyer knew the history of them. I consider it to be an improvement as you will find from this thread. Others might not see it that way and would hate for someone not to know.
I am looking to get $2k OBO out of them and have everything they came with EXCEPT the boxes. And FYI only reason I am selling is I actually got their younger siblings because the tweeter was too high AFF for my low couch.
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Ok. Guess I’m keeping them lol.
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Wouldn’t hurt to throw those bad boys on the flea market here and see what happens. More folks would probably see them there.
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Amen to that. They look amazing."if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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these are sold locally.
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Congrats!- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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Thanks bro
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Nice!
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Awesome! I bet the wifey was happy."This may not matter to you, but it does to me for various reasons, many of them illogical or irrational, but the vinyl hobby is not really logical or rational..." - member on Vinyl Engine
"Sometimes I do what I want to do. The rest of the time, I do what I have to." - Cicero, in Gladiator
Regarding collectibles: "It's not who gets it. It's who gets stuck with it." - Jimmy Fallon -
Great "sale" Joe."Sometimes you have to look to the past to understand where you are going in the future"Anger is just anger. It isn’t good. It isn’t bad. It just is. What you do with it is what matters.
You can use it to build or to destroy. You just have to make the choice. Jim Butcher
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Awesome! I bet the wifey was happy.
Yeah. And actually said “it sounds better”!
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Bonjours à tous,
je possède depuis 4 ans une paire d'AF-61. J'ai fait évolué mon système pour les rendre encore plus musicales car elles sont très difficiles à driver. Avec un rendement de 87 Db et fonctionnant sous 6 Ohms, les meilleurs amplis que j'ai trouvé sont 2 blocs mono Musical Fidelity M8S-700M fournissant
700 Watts sous 8 Ohms et 1000 Watts sous 6 Ohms. Je n'écoute que de la musique en streaming via
Qobuz et Tidal. J'ai optimisé toute la partie numérique pour obtenir un maximum de définition, d'articulation et de douceur. Malheureusement, les coaxiaux utilisés avec leur membrane en alu ne me procure pas une entière satisfaction. Je trouve le haut médium très dur et j'aimerai bien trouver une solution pour obtenir une souplesse dans cette zone avec des voix plus douce. Je pensais remplacer le coaxial par un médium de même diamètre et la partie aigu par un tweeter positionné au dessus de l'enceinte comme le font certains fabricants comme BW ou Jean Marie Raynaud.
J'ai bien sur essayer différents câbles HP et actuellement j'ai des cardas qui adoucissent un peu cette partie haut médium très gênante pour moi. N'hésitez pas à m'apporter des solutions.
Au plaisir de vous lire très bientôt.
Cordialement.
Dominique.
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Translation...
Hello everyone,
I have owned a pair of AF-61s for 4 years. I evolved my system to make them even more musical because they are very difficult to drive. With an output of 87 Db and operating at 6 Ohms, the best amps I have found are 2 Musical Fidelity M8S-700M mono blocks providing
700 Watts at 8 Ohms and 1000 Watts at 6 Ohms. I only listen to streaming music via
Qobuz and Tidal. I optimized the entire digital part to obtain maximum definition, articulation and smoothness. Unfortunately, the coaxials used with their aluminum membrane do not give me complete satisfaction. I find the upper midrange very harsh and I would like to find a solution to obtain flexibility in this area with softer voices. I was thinking of replacing the coaxial with a midrange of the same diameter and the treble part with a tweeter positioned above the speaker as some manufacturers like BW or Jean Marie Raynaud do.
I have of course tried different HP cables and currently I have cardas which soften a little this high midrange part which is very annoying for me. Please feel free to provide me with solutions.
Looking forward to hearing from you very soon.
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That's just how they are voiced. I noticed it with the bookshelf version as well which is why I got rid of them. You're better off selling them and buying new speakers.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/elac-adante-as-61-speaker-review.11507/ -
FYI....Joe ended up getting a pair of Klipsh Cornwalls and he seems to like them very much. I speak from him from time to time on another forum.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I heard the Elac towers at Joe's and it was a very curious speaker. The bass had an odd delay to it, like it was several milliseconds slower then the coaxial.
The upper presentation sounded very artificial yet detailed with a very 2d soundstage.
I am sure they could sound alot better with alot of trial and error but I do believe the bass delay was design related.- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit. -
I also heard that slow bandpass bass or whatever in the bookie and didn't like it. Maybe it would work in certain rooms but not in mine.
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Heard one of the Elac bookshelf models, but don't recall the model...ummm no thank you!!!
Wise advice.You're better off selling them and buying new speakers.Political Correctness'.........defined
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