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  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,520
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    I should have just bought it and Karma'd it along with some
    MIT cables if I didn't like it I guess. I feel funny using the buy
    and try that music direct offers if I'm not pretty certain the
    piece is a keeper.

    Thanks for all the input folks. I'm getting serious about
    streamers for the first time.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,601
    edited December 2018
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    SIHAB wrote: »
    I should have just bought it and Karma'd it along with some MIT cables if I didn't like it I guess.

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  • SIHAB
    SIHAB Posts: 4,520
    edited December 2018
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    Streamer conscience...
    I have a Benchmark DAC that I like...
    I don't have...
    a NAS
    a streamer
    I don't need MQA...
    these seem interesting...
    DENON DNP-800NE NETWORK STREAMING AUDIO PLAYER
    Cocktail Audio N15 Network Music Streamer Silver
    and the original
    Simaudio Moon MiND
    :*
    and I could use a new laptop.
    Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears
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  • halo
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    SIHAB wrote: »
    Streamer conscience...
    I have a Benchmark DAC that I like...
    I don't have...
    a NAS
    a streamer
    I don't need MQA...
    these seem interesting...
    DENON DNP-800NE NETWORK STREAMING AUDIO PLAYER
    Cocktail Audio N15 Network Music Streamer Silver
    and the original
    Simaudio Moon MiND
    :*
    and I could use a new laptop.

    You may want to start a new thread for this
    Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
    HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10
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  • SIHAB
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    o.k!
    Thanks Halo.
    I'm exploring Tidal for the first time (kid you not)
    I'll never leave the house again. >:)
    Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears
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  • David7544
    David7544 Posts: 52
    edited December 2018
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    had a Marantz UDP 7007 5 years ago. It was a not a favorite.sometimes it didn't recognise the disc, it would skip and glitch out when playing,then it developed a loud buzz when playing, finally the disc tray froze and locked up with a CD in it and I got so po'd I opened the tray with a large screwdriver and then chucked it into the garbage. Then I bought an OPPO 203. The difference was amazing. This thing loads and starts playing in maybe ten seconds. Works perfectly. Plays everything, cd, bluray,4K, sacd, dvd audio. I love this thing. I realize I probably just got a defective marantz player, so I'm not making any judgement about marantz in general. I've got a 50 in. panasonic plasma (the last plasma tv on the market, I believe) and the bluray picture from the oppo is awesome. Too bad neither the tv nor the cdp is available any more. No more plasmas, no more oppo. I heard oppo closed their doors.
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  • SIHAB
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    Hi David,
    I thought of the 203 when Oppo was alive but it lead me to
    the Oppo 205 which lead me to putting the brakes on
    when they shuttered up. I understand the 205 is a much nicer
    sounding player than the 105. I'll admit I procrastinate to the
    point of doing nothing. :/
    Speakers: Polk Lsim, ATC SCM19 v2, NHT SuperzeroSpeaker Cables: DH Labs, Transparent, Wireworld, Canare, Monster: Beer budget, Bose ears
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  • pitdogg2
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    SIHAB wrote: »
    Hi David,
    I thought of the 203 when Oppo was alive but it lead me to
    the Oppo 205 which lead me to putting the brakes on
    when they shuttered up. I understand the 205 is a much nicer
    sounding player than the 105. I'll admit I procrastinate to the
    point of doing nothing. :/

    Too bad because the Oppo 205 is an amazing player.
    It's no top of the line Marantz I assure you that but I'm happy.
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  • joecoulson
    joecoulson Posts: 4,943
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    UDP7007 Vs Ruby is like comparing a civic with a Ferrari. Not a reference point.
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  • David7544
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    SIHAB wrote: »
    I'm not sure you represent mainstream commercial CD buying @pitdogg2
    For my part, I think I bought one NEW redbook CD this last year. There must
    of been a few more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.
    (Coltrane, both directions at once) The SACDs I've enjoyed the most were done w/ some care for the format. That was my point to that.

    However, my half baked thoughts are more to buying 4 figure CD/SACD players
    today. Right now. I'm not sure this is the way to go and wondered where
    other people were at.

    Hi Sihab, IMO a four figure cd player simply doesn't make sense. It's a mature technology. ones and zeros. Blindfolded, no one could tell the difference between a four figure player and a three figure player. But the placebo effect is very powerful, isn't it?
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  • F1nut
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    David7544 wrote: »
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I'm not sure you represent mainstream commercial CD buying @pitdogg2
    For my part, I think I bought one NEW redbook CD this last year. There must
    of been a few more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.
    (Coltrane, both directions at once) The SACDs I've enjoyed the most were done w/ some care for the format. That was my point to that.

    However, my half baked thoughts are more to buying 4 figure CD/SACD players
    today. Right now. I'm not sure this is the way to go and wondered where
    other people were at.

    Hi Sihab, IMO a four figure cd player simply doesn't make sense. It's a mature technology. ones and zeros. Blindfolded, no one could tell the difference between a four figure player and a three figure player. But the placebo effect is very powerful, isn't it?

    You have no idea what you're talking about. Go back to AK.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."

    President of Club Polk

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  • David7544
    David7544 Posts: 52
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    and you sound as intelligent as you look
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  • pitdogg2
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    David7544 wrote: »
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I'm not sure you represent mainstream commercial CD buying @pitdogg2
    For my part, I think I bought one NEW redbook CD this last year. There must
    of been a few more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.
    (Coltrane, both directions at once) The SACDs I've enjoyed the most were done w/ some care for the format. That was my point to that.

    However, my half baked thoughts are more to buying 4 figure CD/SACD players
    today. Right now. I'm not sure this is the way to go and wondered where
    other people were at.

    Hi Sihab, IMO a four figure cd player simply doesn't make sense. It's a mature technology. ones and zeros. Blindfolded, no one could tell the difference between a four figure player and a three figure player. But the placebo effect is very powerful, isn't it?

    So folks buy Lamborghini's when you have Honda Civic's and Pruis's they both get you there right? Would you not agree that the automobile is also a pretty mature technology So why buy a 6 figure ride when both of the above will do just fine??
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  • David7544
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    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    David7544 wrote: »
    SIHAB wrote: »
    I'm not sure you represent mainstream commercial CD buying @pitdogg2
    For my part, I think I bought one NEW redbook CD this last year. There must
    of been a few more that I'm not remembering off the top of my head.
    (Coltrane, both directions at once) The SACDs I've enjoyed the most were done w/ some care for the format. That was my point to that.

    However, my half baked thoughts are more to buying 4 figure CD/SACD players
    today. Right now. I'm not sure this is the way to go and wondered where
    other people were at.

    Hi Sihab, IMO a four figure cd player simply doesn't make sense. It's a mature technology. ones and zeros. Blindfolded, no one could tell the difference between a four figure player and a three figure player. But the placebo effect is very powerful, isn't it?

    So folks buy Lamborghini's when you have Honda Civic's and Pruis's they both get you there right? Would you not agree that the automobile is also a pretty mature technology So why buy a 6 figure ride when both of the above will do just fine??

    invalid comparison. Big difference in performance between a civic and an exotic sports car. Virtually no difference in performance between a 7000 dollar cdp and a 600 dollar cdp.
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  • Clipdat
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    David7544 wrote: »
    Virtually no difference in performance between a 7000 dollar cdp and a 600 dollar cdp.

    Are you speaking from first hand experience?
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  • David7544
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    Clipdat wrote: »
    David7544 wrote: »
    Virtually no difference in performance between a 7000 dollar cdp and a 600 dollar cdp.

    Are you speaking from first hand experience?

    yes
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,776
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    I drive a truck
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,185
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    lightman1 wrote: »
    I drive a truck

    A big truck!
    2 Channel in my home attic/bar/man cave

    2 Channel Focal Kanta 3 I Modwright SWL9.0 Anniversary Pre I Modwright PH9.0X I Modwright KWA-150SE I VPI Prime Signature w/ Soundsmith Zephyr MIMC I Lumin U2 Mini I North Star Designs Intenso DAC I Audience OHNO ICs/Audience Furutech FP-S55N and FP-S032N Power Cables/Acoustic Zen Satori I Isotek Sirius
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  • David7544
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    I'm not criticising anyone else's choices. If, in your mind, a 7000 dollar cdp has sound quality that justifies it's price, then go for it. But the OP, Sihab, asked a question and I gave him an honest answer.
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  • Clipdat
    Clipdat Posts: 12,601
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    David7544 wrote: »
    Clipdat wrote: »
    David7544 wrote: »
    Virtually no difference in performance between a 7000 dollar cdp and a 600 dollar cdp.

    Are you speaking from first hand experience?

    yes

    What models did you directly compare?
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  • SIHAB
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    I'm guessing people's opinions are subjective based on their
    experiences and no one has done double blind tests.
    Can we leave it there?
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  • David7544
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    yamaha cd s3000 (which my friend owns) to oppo 203 (which I own)
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  • Clipdat
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    David7544 wrote: »
    yamaha cd s3000 (which my friend owns) to oppo 203 (which I own)

    Interesting, and you say there was "virtually" no difference? It's possible there was a bottleneck elsewhere in the system that was preventing the differences from being heard. I had this happen not too long ago when I demoed some $450/m interconnect cables.

    Anyway, I guess enjoy the OPPO then, as well as a fatter wallet. :)
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  • David7544
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    Clipdat wrote: »
    David7544 wrote: »
    yamaha cd s3000 (which my friend owns) to oppo 203 (which I own)

    Interesting, and you say there was "virtually" no difference? It's possible there was a bottleneck elsewhere in the system that was preventing the differences from being heard. I had this happen not too long ago when I demoed some $450/m interconnect cables.

    Anyway, I guess enjoy the OPPO then, as well as a fatter wallet. :)

    yes,I suppose anything is possible especially in high end audio. But anyone who has an understanding of the fundamentals of digital audio will be skeptical of those who claim to hear a difference in sound quality between cd players.
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  • VR3
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    So you are saying all dacs sound the same?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Clipdat
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    You say "anything is possible", but then immediately contradict yourself in your next statement by saying there's no difference in sound quality between CD players.

    You've also made some other "questionable" statements in regards to audio:

    "As long as you're using wires (either speaker or interconnects) of acceptable quality, (12 gauge speaker wire and properly constructed interconnects), neither will have any audible effect on sound quality."

    And this one:

    "I've been an audiophile for 40 years, and I can't think of any scientific reason why separate amp/pre should sound better than a good AVR."

    But, I thought anything was possible?
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  • Hermitism
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    Why can't we all just be friends?
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  • stangman67
    stangman67 Posts: 2,185
    edited December 2018
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    I think it’s time to let this topic die guys.... ain’t going anywhere good
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  • lightman1
    lightman1 Posts: 10,776
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    Y'all ever had a good all beef hot dog with ****?
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    Sauerkraut... :/
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