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Just need to get the guts to let it all go. I've had the Dodd ELP for quite a long time now.Ah, **** son!
Somebody grab it NOW.
Strongbad......really?
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
Dodd ELP. My first tube preamp.
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Just need to get the guts to let it all go. I've had the Dodd ELP for quite a long time now.Ah, **** son!
Somebody grab it NOW.
I apologize for the second post here folks.....Vanilla had an issue with posting tonight.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
afterburnt wrote: »I have always trembled in fear all 27 years that I have been on this Forum however with the help of you vicious brutes I am fully prepared for the non ambulatory phase of my life and for this I am grateful.
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Okay, Vanilla sucks. I tried twice. SB, congrat's on the ELP. That's great piece of Gary's gear.
Tom~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
I read some #FakeNews on this thread. It was exposed and said subject continued like nothing happened after it was exposed.
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Okay, Vanilla sucks. I tried twice. SB, congrat's on the ELP. That's great piece of Gary's gear.
Tom
Hahaha. Anybody and everyone in the history of forever knows that Vanilla has its meteor shortcomings. I was trying to be kind. There are some members here that work on that bleeding cutting edge of tech.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »
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First this place is dead, now this thread seems to be........ :'(Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
Leave it to you to beat a dead horse...
The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2800 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
“When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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This place is the place to report about the dead.
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Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Leave it to you to beat a dead horse...rednedtugent wrote: »This place is the place to report about the dead.
Trying to revive, but @lightman1 has mouth to mouth duties.....
I aim to please.Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
I'm not dead!
I'm getting better.
I don't want to go on the cart.
I think I'll go for a walk....
Those skits are so outrageously ridiculous, and they never get old
I saw Yellowbeard and Life of Brian before I ever saw The Holy Grail. Both greats, as well
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rednedtugent wrote: »This place is the place to report about the dead.
22 years today and counting.
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2-channel: Modwright KWI-200 Integrated, Dynaudio C1-II Signatures
Desktop rig: LSi7, Polk 110sub, Dayens Ampino amp, W4S DAC/pre, Sonos, JRiver
Gear on standby: Melody 101 tube pre, Unison Research Simply Italy Integrated
Gone to new homes: (Matt Polk's)Threshold Stasis SA12e monoblocks, Pass XA30.5 amp, Usher MD2 speakers, Dynaudio C4 platinum speakers, Modwright LS100 (voltz), Simaudio 780D DAC
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Pio Elete Pro 520
Panamax 5400-EX
Sunfire TGP 5
Micro Seiki DD-40 - Lyra-Dorian and Denon DL-160
PS Audio GCPH phono pre
Sunfire CG 200 X 5
Sunfire CG Sig 405 X 5
OPPO BDP-83 SE
SDA SRS 1.2TL Sonicaps and Mills
Ctr CS1000p
Sur - FX1000 x 4
SUB - SVS PB2-Plus
Workkout room:
Sony Bravia XBR- 32-Inch 1080p
Onkyo TX-DS898
GFA 555
Yamaha DVD-S1800BL/SACD
Ft - SDA 1C
Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
mhardy6647 wrote: »
22 years today and counting.rednedtugent wrote: »This place is the place to report about the dead.
speaking of, Hey Doc, here's a photo of Jerry and those speakers you made for him.
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Yeah, but them guyses kept usin' JBL drivers back in the day
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I told you this would happen, but you wouldn't listen.Moose68Bash wrote: »I'm just ruminating. I, too, have noticed that activity on the Forum has declined dramatically -- especially recently. But I'm not sure it is Vanilla.
It may just be the natural rhythm of life, so to speak.
I have noticed a dramatic decline in activity on this, and several other performance oriented audio forums I frequent:
1. Computer Audiophile.
2. Audio Circle.
3. The High End Audio sub-forums at AVS.
I attribute the decline in activity to several things, none of which have anything to do with Vanilla.
In my case, as with many of the regularly contributing members here, I have upgraded and tweaked and tweaked and tweaked until there is nothing left to do but go in a different direction with new gear...or just sit and listen and enjoy.
Three of my home systems (home theater, home office, and master bedroom) were downgraded to smaller, lower performing systems with fewer separate components and much, much smaller speakers.
Most of the frequent contributors to this forum are high performance two channel audio enthusiasts, and, as we all know, there really isn't much that's new and exciting in the world of high end two channel audio.
If we were to get things popping again, I think we would need to shift the focus of the forum away from high performance two channel audio (with its horribly expensive cables and separate components ), and toward receivers, inexpensive loudspeakers, and *choke* mobile audio.
Another major issue is that participation in an audio forum requires writing, and writing requires thinking. Baby boomers were the LAST widely literate generation this country produced. The concept of communicating a body of coherent thoughts in written form is rapidly becoming a lost art in a world of cool one liners and quick quips on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and Snapchat. My academic colleagues from around the country constantly complain that their students HATE to write. Based on this trend, and the fact that I don't see a new generation of high performance audio enthusiasts coming up, I foresee audio forums becoming more social media-ish and blatantly marketing oriented in structure, or going away altogether.
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Dang Raife look at the big brain coming here and throwing down logic
. Problem i cant get past 120 characters the rest hurt my head. Who needs to write when they can dictate into the phone geesh
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I found some comments by @K_M and @DSkip intriguing. I hope they will provide further insight.The part you guys are not "digesting" is that Many older members are the actual ones that wanted the forum to change, and how the behavour was to change.
They would NOT post their true feelings openly in the forum as I do. You are making a huge assumption that everyone that has been here a while all agrees and is of the same mindset.
Your profile indicates that you have been a member of this forum since February 2016. I find it odd that "other long term members" were afraid to discuss their views in the forum, yet placed such confidence in a member who had only been around for a few months. Why were these "long term members" so trusting of a relative newcomer, yet "afraid" to express their views in open forum? I mean, what was there to be afraid of? This forum doesn't send "enforcers" to someone's home if they have a different, or even controversial, viewpoint.
Other questions:
1. How many "long term members" expressed to you that they were living in fear?
2. What changes did they want made and did they discuss them with Polk's management?And the other problem I see, many longer term members here repeat the same stuff over and over again, right or wrong, and other long term members not wanting to rock the boat or argue openly in the forum, simply say nothing or never disagree for fear of being bashed or made fun of.
If long term members are repeating wrong information, other members have the right to present a corrective rebuttal and to cite any and all substantiating documentation. That's what I do in my professional life, personal life, and on Internet forums. I really do not get this "living in fear" mentality on an AUDIO FORUM of all places. It's not as if anything said on this forum has any effect on anyone's real life.
When I became a member of this forum, in July 2001, there were some members who ridiculed me for my use of "old", "outdated" SDA loudspeakers. I responded, in technical detail, with the stereophonic performance benefits of SDA loudspeakers. Furthermore, I expounded on how the performance of SDA loudspeakers could be further enhanced by upgrades. Lastly, I really couldn't have cared less if someone laughs at my choice of audio equipment. I like what I like.
I recall from several of our discussions that, when you were asked to provide a technical justification for a position you held, you either rested to the "authority" of others who held your viewpoint or you simply refused to answer. Your concept of "debate" seems to be "accept my views because they are what has been accepted by many for a long time".I know some members who don't like how 'normal operations' happen around here. I know some who are members but never post because of it. K_M is not off base on that statement and I respect her enough for not 'outing' said members.
What are these "normal operations" you speak of and how many members never post because of them? I ask because I have never, in the 16+ years I have been here, been afraid to speak my mind...and I have expressed some extremely controversial opinions, positions, and points of view here.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
I ain't saying peep around here, you guys scare me.
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Some of the sentiments expressed by @DarqueKnight do seem pertinent to the original topic, in suggesting, as I understand it, that a lot of the proactive customer service may have to switch to social media and platforms such as Twitter, no matter how technically limited they may be.
I was not speaking in terms of moving customer service to social media platforms. I doubt if Polk would be willing or able to commit the human and financial resources that such an implementation would require. I was speaking in terms of audio forums, as we know them today, being replaced by social media type outlets where only very short messages are allowed.In fact, it was the perceived betrayal of family that bothered me so much with what I stated earlier in regards to George Grand (of the Jersey Grands), and I cannot overstate the sense of betrayal I felt at the time.
I do not recall this situation. Can you PM me a link? Thanks.On the other hand, there is this recent Customer Service request, which was met with a considerable amount of derision and hostility. The unhappy customer was more or less told to take a hike, and the sooner the better. Personally, I tend to think the customer should have received a better answer to his plight, at least in how it was conveyed, no matter how justifiable the initial response he received may be.
@DSkip and @msg provided very courteous and detailed responses to the customer's inquiry. Then, very surprisingly, @nooshinjohn went completely above and beyond by offering to send the customer the $7 refund he felt he was owed. I would never, in the farthest reaches of my imagination, expect a random forum member, who was a total stranger to me, to offer a refund pertaining to my customer service issue. The conversation should have ended right there. The customer's subsequent replies were very childish in nature and, in my opinion, he received far better "customer care" than his attitude warranted. He was only told to "take a hike" after he derisively refused the refund offered, from a forum member, and after he became abusive.The very fact that he perceived the Club Polk respondents here as "fanboys" is almost the ultimate insult in and of itself, but in any case, it should have been possible to simply forward the complaint quietly, and see what could be done, rather than "pile on".
Well, I would expect to find a bunch of Klipsch fanboys at a corporate-sponsored Klipsch forum and I would expect to find a bunch of Polk fanboys at a corporate-sponsored Polk forum. "Fanboy" is not a insulting term. It just means you are obsessive about something. It would not be incorrect to call me a fanboy for Polk speakers, Pass Labs amplifiers and AudioQuest cables. However, considering the tone of the customer's replies, I do think agree that he meant it in an insulting way, but he was only making himself look silly. Why wouldn't there be Polk fanboys on a Polk forum?As it was, even though the customer may have eventually received the compensation he desired in the end (reading from the content of the thread), he may yet have been left with the impression that he was hounded off the forum as if he had stolen something.
Here's what I don't like: Someone comes here acting a fool and then, after people here don't exhibit infinite patience, a member gets fed up "reads them their rights". The "offended party" then runs off complaining about being "mistreated".Club Polk is certainly quite a different beast from AVS in my experience, but I stand by what I wrote previously: something may yet be rotten in the state of Denmark.
I agree that CP is quite different from AVS. For one thing, CP does not have an army of moderators like AVS. The general anti-audiophile mentality at AVS is another big difference.
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