It will be a good day tomorrow... my speakerwire cherry will be popped
Joey_V
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So my local dealer is coming in tomorrow to bring in several speaker wires, but mainly I'm interested in the Audioquest Oak. I will finally get to listen to what happens when the hanger wire is replaced by something with some semblance of a speaker wire.
Also, another cool thing I get to do is he is bringing over a Rotel RB1590, their mega-amp. We will be doing comparisons between the RB1592 and the Classe M600.
Should be fun fun fun
Will post some impressions a little later.
Also, another cool thing I get to do is he is bringing over a Rotel RB1590, their mega-amp. We will be doing comparisons between the RB1592 and the Classe M600.
Should be fun fun fun
Will post some impressions a little later.
Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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Yay. Looking forward to your thoughts.
Dunno much about AQ other than the Rocket 88, which I really like.
Have fun!b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
I started out with Audioquest Slate biwire cables way back when which I paired with my old Infinity Reference 60's. They were good value cables, but much more humble @$60.00AUD/meter. I've got mixed feelings about active cables, but i'll be interested to hear your impressions when you get those snakes in your system.
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Nice! Looking forward to your review.SDA SRS 2.3TL's
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Not a big fan of active cables myself but some seem to really dig them. Why not ask Skip for a pair of WW's to compare with ?
Is that the only brand your dealer carries ? Regardless, I have no doubt the AQ Oak will spank your current zip cord.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Hopefully with Joey's permission, may I ask what you guys do not like about the DBS method sound? Apologies if considered too far OT.b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
Well, start with AQ's reasoning for using it to begin with.
•Insulation, and any material within a conductor’s magnetic field, is a dielectric whose properties will affect the integrity of the signal. When the dielectric is unbiased, it causes different amounts of time delay (phase shift) for different frequencies and energy levels—a major problem for very time-sensitive multi-octave audio.
•AudioQuest’s DBS creates a strong, stable electrostatic field that saturates and polarizes (organizes) the molecules of the insulation. This dramatically minimizes nonlinear time delays and reduces dielectric-induced smearing of the signal, letting sound emerge from a “black” background.
Theoretically, they may be right. If so though, how can other cables allow for a very black background without a DBS system ? I hear no smearing of sound with my cables and I have a very good black background also.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, just that I'm not a fan of introducing another electrical component into the signal. I feel a good cable design is a good design and should stand on it's own. Otherwise, to me anyway, are DBS systems simply trying to cover up a poor design or quality metallurgy used ? Maybe, maybe not, don't really know for sure.
Some things in audio are measurable, when scoped you can easily SEE differences, but whether that falls into our audible ranges of human hearing is another subject. Like everything, try it and see if it floats your boat.
Audio metallurgy cables, of which I have a few, have magnets in them to basically arrive at the same conclusions AQ does, just a different way of handling it. Do they sound better than regular cable ? Yeah, but once you get into the better lines from various brands, whatever they are doing sounds just as good if not better....without magnets or DBS systems. So my thought process is, are DBS systems there to cover flaws elsewhere in design or quality materials used ?
In the end....who cares, if you like it....use it and be happy.
HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Thanks @tonyb . Seems reasonable. In practice, I did like the bi-wire Rocket 88 sound - dynamics especially - on the Ushers, Revels, 703's. Though, in the end, I preferred MIT S3's and placed the 88's in the HT front three (the purpose for which they were purchased). I tend to spend little time wondering about what the AQ DBS or MIT network boxes are doing and more time listening. b]Beach Audio[/b]: Rega RP6 (mods) - AT33PTG/II - Parks Budgie SUT - PSAudio NPC * Eversolo DMP-A6 * Topping D90iii * Joule-Electra LA-100 mkIII * Pass Aleph 30 * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 2.3tl (mods) * PSAudio PPP3
Beach Study: Pro-Ject Stream Box S2 Ultra & Pre Box S2 * Pass ACA * DH Labs SS Q10 * Brines Folded ML-TQWT RS 40-1354 * PSA Dectet
Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet -
Are the MIT cables with their "black boxes" a DBS design/system?So my thought process is, are DBS systems there to cover flaws elsewhere in design or quality materials used ?
Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
NO, they are not.HT SYSTEM-
Sony 850c 4k
Pioneer elite vhx 21
Sony 4k BRP
SVS SB-2000
Polk Sig. 20's
Polk FX500 surrounds
Cables-
Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable
Kitchen
Sonos zp90
Grant Fidelity tube dac
B&k 1420
lsi 9's -
Well let's see what's what. We are not cable manufacturers so let's leave the manufacturing to them and the listening to us.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R
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And I look forward to the rotel!
A great dealer. He is making his rounds to my place.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Have fun man!
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Can't wait to hear your impressions on the AQ's. I'm thinking of upgrading my speaker cables and have been looking at AQ's as well as WW cables.Anaheim Hills CA,
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honestaquarian wrote: »Have fun man!
How is your daughter doing btw?
Emma is doing well so far, had her 2 year check up and she hit 15% for weight!! She was at 6% last time and then we had a scare prior to Disneyworld and she was at like 0% weight graph.
That freaked me out.
So far, so good, chugging along.
Smart as all heck, and she loves loves loves music.
I mean she is an audiophile in the making, seriously. She loves Sonus Faber Olympica 3.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
mmmm Rotel 1590... can't wait to smell that beast.
tasty...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
So my local dealer is coming in tomorrow to bring in several speaker wires, but mainly I'm interested in the Audioquest Oak. I will finally get...
Also, another cool thing I get to do is he is bringing over a Rotel RB1590, their mega-amp. We will be doing comparisons between the RB1592 and the Classe M600.
Should be fun fun fun
Now, that sounds like a new definition of Mother's Day right there!
How are you getting away with that?
Does look like one huge mother of an amp though.
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teekay0007 wrote: »So my local dealer is coming in tomorrow to bring in several speaker wires, but mainly I'm interested in the Audioquest Oak. I will finally get...
Also, another cool thing I get to do is he is bringing over a Rotel RB1590, their mega-amp. We will be doing comparisons between the RB1592 and the Classe M600.
Should be fun fun fun
Now, that sounds like a new definition of Mother's Day right there! How are you getting away with that?
Does look like one huge mother of an amp though.
You don't even wanna know...Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
teekay0007 wrote: »So my local dealer is coming in tomorrow to bring in several speaker wires, but mainly I'm interested in the Audioquest Oak. I will finally get...
Also, another cool thing I get to do is he is bringing over a Rotel RB1590, their mega-amp. We will be doing comparisons between the RB1592 and the Classe M600.
Should be fun fun fun
Now, that sounds like a new definition of Mother's Day right there! How are you getting away with that?
Does look like one huge mother of an amp though.
You don't even wanna know...
Probably a trip to the most expensive jeweler, shoe store and maybe even a day at the spa lol..."....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963) -
The demo is today not tomorrow... That's just a glutton for punishment to have Audio on Mother's Day.... Hahahaha
I guess it's stil Mother's Day weekend... I have the most considerate wife!Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
The demo is today not tomorrow... That's just a glutton for punishment to have Audio on Mother's Day.... Hahahaha
I guess it's stil Mother's Day weekend... I have the most considerate wife!
Wasn't your last audio excursion on her birthday? Flirting with disaster...lol
Audio: Polk S15 * Polk S35 * Polk S10 * SVS SB-1000 Pro
HT: Samsung QN90B * Marantz NR1510 * Panasonic DMP-BDT220 * Roku Ultra LT * APC H10 -
Yeah...
She just left for work.
"Goodbye honey".
She kisses Emma then me.
She walks out.
"Don't buy anything"
"Ok," I say.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
Lmao... Just let Emma shop with Daddy's credit card. She will figure it out soon enough anyway.The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD
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Yeah...
She just left for work.
"Goodbye honey".
She kisses Emma then me.
She walks out.
"Don't buy anything"
"Ok," I say.
Sounds just like my girl friend. She is shockingly easy going with my audio addiction.2 channel:
Bryston 4B3, Bryston BDA3, Cary SLP05, Shanling CDT1000SE with parts conneXion level 2 mods, Nottingham analogue ace space 294, soundsmith Carmen MKii, Zu DL103 MKii, Ortofon MC 20 MKii, Dynavector XX2 MKii, Rogue Audio Ares, Core power technologies balanced power conditioner, Akiko Corelli power conditioner with Akiko Audio HQ power cable, Nordost heimdall 2, Frey 2, interconnects, speaker and power cables, Focal Electra 1028 BE 2, Auralic Aries Femto, Black diamond racing cones, ingress audio level 1 roller blocks, JL Audio E110 with Auralic subdude, Primacoustics room treatments.
Theater:
Focal Aria 926,905,CC900, SVS PB ultra x2. Pioneer Elite SC85, Oppo BDP93, Panamax M5400PM, Minix neox6, Nordost Blue heaven LS power cables. -
Yeah...
She just left for work.
"Goodbye honey".
She kisses Emma then me.
She walks out.
"Don't buy anything"
"Ok," I say.
Sounds just like my girl friend. She is shockingly easy going with my audio addiction.
Yeah I got off real easy. What a wonderful wife I have... So glad she tolerates me and my insanity. 3 speakers have come and gone in the past year. She still seems relatively not too angry at me.
Though she has told me a few times to tone it down. Or "now you're being ridiculous."Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
You have a great wife and daughter. Lucky man!!Pio Elete Pro 520
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PS Audio GCPH phono pre
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OPPO BDP-83 SE
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Workkout room:
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Not being used:
RTi 38's -4
RT55i's - 2
RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
LSI 15's
CSi40
PSW 404 -
Dealer should be here any minute
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honestaquarian wrote: »Have fun man!
How is your daughter doing btw?
Emma is doing well so far, had her 2 year check up and she hit 15% for weight!! She was at 6% last time and then we had a scare prior to Disneyworld and she was at like 0% weight graph.
That freaked me out.
So far, so good, chugging along.
Smart as all heck, and she loves loves loves music.
I mean she is an audiophile in the making, seriously. She loves Sonus Faber Olympica 3.
Joey
It's good to read she is doing well.
You lost me with those weight percentages though. You left out the part about percentage of what.
Has the dealer talked you into breaking your "promise" to your wife yet????
Audiophilia Nervosa
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honestaquarian wrote: »honestaquarian wrote: »Have fun man!
How is your daughter doing btw?
Emma is doing well so far, had her 2 year check up and she hit 15% for weight!! She was at 6% last time and then we had a scare prior to Disneyworld and she was at like 0% weight graph.
That freaked me out.
So far, so good, chugging along.
Smart as all heck, and she loves loves loves music.
I mean she is an audiophile in the making, seriously. She loves Sonus Faber Olympica 3.
Joey
It's good to read she is doing well.
You lost me with those weight percentages though. You left out the part about percentage of what.
Has the dealer talked you into breaking your "promise" to your wife yet????
Audiophilia Nervosa
A disease of the wallet that mostly afflicts (*but is not exclusive to*) the male species.
No way am I breaking my word to my wife... that would be game over, thanks for playing.Magico M2, JL113v2x2, EMM, ARC Ref 10 Line, ARC Ref 10 Phono, VPIx2, Lyra Etna, Airtight Opus1, Boulder, AQ Wel&Wild, SRA Scuttle Rack, BlueSound+LPS, Thorens 124DD+124SPU, Sennheiser, Metaxas R2R -
No way am I breaking my word to my wife... that would be game over, thanks for playing.
Let Emma buy them for mommy for mothers day. Speaker wires for mothers day sounds like a plan just make sure they are not long enough for your wife to hang you with them. What wedding anniversary is interconnects?
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I have a pair of acoustic zen satori cables free if you want to demo for free. These are no bi wire. happy to help in your quest.
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