Finally got my project RTAs
codycatalist
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These RTA11TLs have some serious battle wounds.
1x ripped sw83
3x ripped MW6510s (various sized rips, non TOO big)
Missing SL3000 tweeters.
Crossovers look good
No major enclosure issues although contemplating doing a cherry wood makeover.
Will eventually refresh or upgrade the crossovers.
Might sound like a rough draw but I got them for free on the sole promise I would get them back up in running order.
I want to try and repair the rips in the drivers if possible just to see if it will play. I've been skimming posts and see various answers but also that it won't with that era of surrounds.
Will eventually replace all 4 MAd with factory replacements, get RDO198 tweeters and a used sw83 somewhere. I want to reglue the inside of the cabinet and make sure it's all air right.
This is my first polk project, I have a long way to go but I am ready and excited!
1x ripped sw83
3x ripped MW6510s (various sized rips, non TOO big)
Missing SL3000 tweeters.
Crossovers look good
No major enclosure issues although contemplating doing a cherry wood makeover.
Will eventually refresh or upgrade the crossovers.
Might sound like a rough draw but I got them for free on the sole promise I would get them back up in running order.
I want to try and repair the rips in the drivers if possible just to see if it will play. I've been skimming posts and see various answers but also that it won't with that era of surrounds.
Will eventually replace all 4 MAd with factory replacements, get RDO198 tweeters and a used sw83 somewhere. I want to reglue the inside of the cabinet and make sure it's all air right.
This is my first polk project, I have a long way to go but I am ready and excited!
Just a dude doing dude-ly things
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Look forward to how your project goes. Maybe some parts n pieces will pop up. The 198's tweets are well worth the $$$. Im gearing up to do my RTA's also. There are lots of great folk here with knowledge. Dont hesitate to ask anything. Welcome to the forum also..
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are the rips in the rubber surrounds or in the actual drivers?
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Have fun and enjoy!afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Just the surrounds. The drivers seem to be untouched except by dust. One driver is completely frozen stuff so I'm guessing fried voice coil.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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either a fried coil or a shifted magnet, which is a pretty good bet.
I used super glue across the ripped surround on mine (screwdriver slipped) until I could get replacements.
Re-veneering these is a fun, but time consuming undertaking. But I was very happy to not have to look at that crappy fake walnut any more.Polk Lsi9
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codycatalist wrote: »Just the surrounds. The drivers seem to be untouched except by dust. One driver is completely frozen stuff so I'm guessing fried voice coil.
Magnet shift, the glue is so old in these MW's that it lets go. Get some Loctite Power Grab All Purpose so you can apply some to the working MW's and help prevent that happening to your good ones.afterburnt wrote: »They didn't speak a word of English, they were from South Carolina.
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Makes sense! The magnet turns a little when applying pressure. What's the best way to remove to check? I wanted to reglue all the magnets anyways. As for the drivers, I've heard super glue however I was thinking of something more flexible like marine silicon adhesives or ive heard rv or air mattress patch glue.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
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"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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Would magnet shift ruin the driver and render it useless and unable to repair?Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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Id just get another one.... Its been talked about here where some have tried to repair & gave up. I think there may even be some it worked for & the devices they designed & steps they took to do so. All interesting read. The Search Feature may help with that & tons of info on the 11's..
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Yeah I read a little about someone repairing the shifted magnet with a pvc pipe, screws and a lot of time positioning. Might be worth a shot until the bank account grows enough to get the factory replacements.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
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Will do guys! I'm sure I'll be back for support soon enough!Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
Got the magnet off without damaging the vc. Loose as a goose now, will try and reapply it later.
Also started glueing the surrounds in an attempt to get something that is playable.
Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
Silicone has no place in/on speakers or gear.Political Correctness'.........defined
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I know it really makes me sad to have to do this. =( These speakers had a hard life. Treated like garbage, almost taken to the dump. I just want to get these so I can plug it in and diagnose any xover issues. I plan on getting new replacement drivers, RDO198s and looking for an SW83 to replace it all.
Only if time were on my side...Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
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Are the surrounds butyl or nitrile in these MW's?Don't take experimental gene therapies from known eugenicists.
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MW6510s are usually plentiful on fleaBay, and less expensive than the replacements from Polk. Just contact the seller, and make sure they pack them well for shipping.Home Theater/2 Channel:
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Yeah I found 3 for $30 a piece which it's a great deal, going to have to snag them up. It's the SW83s I have to be patient for. The monitor 5s I have are the SW80...fail.westmassguy wrote: »MW6510s are usually plentiful on fleaBay, and less expensive than the replacements from Polk. Just contact the seller, and make sure they pack them well for shipping.
I believe they are butyl but could be wrong.
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"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
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It's worth waiting for the correct Passive. The 11tls are awesome towers.codycatalist wrote: »
Yeah I found 3 for $30 a piece which it's a great deal, going to have to snag them up. It's the SW83s I have to be patient for. The monitor 5s I have are the SW80...fail.westmassguy wrote: »MW6510s are usually plentiful on fleaBay, and less expensive than the replacements from Polk. Just contact the seller, and make sure they pack them well for shipping.
I believe they are butyl but could be wrong.
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i will check. I might have one.... .no promises.Polk Lsi9
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You're better off saving your money for a set in better shape.. I wouldn't waste my time and energy on that set..
I know it's fun and all but not worth the money.. -
BTW, I just might have a passive..
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So the TL's switched to SW83's? There is a full set of PR's from an 11T on ebay with SW80 and SW81 shown. SW81 being the larger mass.
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So the TL's switched to SW83's? There is a full set of PR's from an 11T on ebay with SW80 and SW81 shown. SW81 being the larger mass.
Yeah the larger mass on the 11tls is still SW81 the smaller being the SW83.You're better off saving your money for a set in better shape.. I wouldn't waste my time and energy on that set..
I know it's fun and all but not worth the money..
I agree I'll be over paying a carp ton compared to buying some on e bay. I however need something to keep me busy and the experience plus the hopefully blissful result will be worth it.
Got the speakers at least working today although with glued drivers. Good news is the crossovers seem fine and I have a good air tight seal in the box.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
They are almost ready! I can't believe it! I have however noticed a good loss in cabinet pressure (holding in the PR I get maybe a second or less until the mid driver pressurized back in place). I plan on sealing the inside of the cabinet seems, when it comes to gaskets a few questions. 1. Did the mid drivers and PRs have gaskets? Mine do not seem to, are there suitable replacements? If not what are good ways to DIY the seal on the drivers and tweets?
Thanks again everyone!Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
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You want armacell, it is available at the Home Depot. All of your drivers and passives should have gaskets. Other forum members could tell you more about the push test on your particular speakers, good luck.Yamaha RXA1030, Yamaha CD-S2100, Yamaha AS-2200, Bluesound node 2i
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Yeah I've read between 4-5 seconds is good (at least that's what I got from lurking f1nut's posts) I will try and get some to apply this weekend to the drivers I have in place that will stay there. I have at least 1 more mw6510 to get and waiting on Toolfan to respond to buying his PR.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
Just ordered my tweeters and 2 mw6510 drivers. As of April 1st we will be fully restored (Driver and tweeter wise) and operational! Now to locate some grilles and seal the cabs. Will post pictures when finished.Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
Wanting to put dynamat or peel and seal on the speaker baskets. Would Dynatape work? Or should I get the full sheet?Just a dude doing dude-ly things
"Temptation is the manifestation of desire which equals necessity." - Mikey081057
" I have always had a champange taste with a beer budget" - Rick88
"Just because the thread is getting views don't mean much .. I like a good train wreck doesn't mean i want to be in one..." - pitdogg2
"Those that don't know, don't know that they don't know." - heiney9
"Audiophiles are the male equivalent of cat ladies." - Audiokarma Member -
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