Straight Outta Compton...
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afterburnt wrote: »Just being selective about what kind of vile stuff that I choose for entertainment
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Were NWA the kind of rappers that hold their **** with their right hand, or their left hand?Norh ACA-2B tube pre, Sumo Andromeda SS amp. Magneplanar MMG speakers, M&K MX1250 Subwoofer, Pro-Ject RM1.3 Genie TT with Sumiko Pearl MM cart., Keces DAC, Cambridge Audio Azur 640c CD player
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Was it NWA that had all the hate for the police or authority in general?
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that is endemic to the hood
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to be fair though there were some pretty **** cops in the hood
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Curling? I think competitive ironing is a mor manly sport.
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Curling? I think competitive ironing is a mor manly sport.
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and not him
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afterburnt wrote: »to be fair though there were some pretty **** cops in the hood
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It's an effin movies guys, wtf. Jurassic Park, how much did you know about genetics and dinosaurs? Tom Clancy movies, how much did you know about that? Any comedy movie, how much did you know that?
It's a movie, stop being so effin childish... Wow.
Halen
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"nooshinjohn wrote: »I am with you... These guys were thugs, criminals and a$$ ole's to boot.drumminman wrote: »I hate rap music and the culture that it spawned, so I won't be seeing this one. Yes I am curmudgeonly on this
Yeah, the whole Gangsta' rap movement by the likes of NWA was a tough one to swallow.
I don't see gangsta rap as any worse than the scores of songs and movies, over many decades, glorifying and romanticizing the Mafia and other American organized crime figures. In fact, most of the prominent figures in gangsta rap style themselves after prominent American criminals and criminal organizations.
So, when you talk about "rap music and the culture that it spawned", be sure you go back to the "mother church" of "role models" like John Gotti, the Godfather trilogy, Al Capone, John Dillinger, Bugsy Siegel, Bonnie and Clyde, etc., etc. Speaking of Bonnie and Clyde, research the number of songs and poems that have been written about their "love story".
I don't doubt that many rappers, maybe most, are a$$holes, but the a$$hole label can be applied to most entertainers. Similar to most entertainers, most rappers are not the hard core thugs they portray themselves to be. The are just actors playing a role, just like the guys who act in gangster movies. Rick Ross portrayed himself as a drug cartel boss, but he actually is a former corrections officer who styled his rap persona after the incarcerated criminals he interviewed and after the real "Freeway" Rick Ross, who was once one of the nations biggest drug dealers.Proud and loyal citizen of the Digital Domain and Solid State Country! -
halenhoang wrote: »It's an effin movies guys, wtf. Jurassic Park, how much did you know about genetics and dinosaurs? Tom Clancy movies, how much did you know about that? Any comedy movie, how much did you know that?
It's a movie, stop being so effin childish... Wow.
Halen
Amen Halen.
Though movies in my day were a form of entertainment and taken as such. Today however, they are used to change perceptions and some take them as factual information.
I'd imagine if most movies didn't take liberties with facts, they'd be pretty effin' boring.
I'll agree with DK that most these thugs portrayed in Rap aren't really thugs at all. It's a portrayed persona with one goal in mind....money. However, I'd argue is that persona beneficial to the people they propose to help ? Of course not, but it does help their own pockets.HT SYSTEM-
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drumminman wrote: »I hate rap music and the culture that it spawned, so I won't be seeing this one. Yes I am curmudgeonly on this
The word "hate" is not a good thing, and while through my many many years of playing all styles of music, I'd say Rap is not at the top of my fav's of the styles I have laid down tracks for by any means. Even though..I am very much so looking forward to seeing this movie! The learning experience from this crazy life style of the Rap artists is nothing short of amazing and okay....NWA has had me in stiches many a time. Their lyrics can crack up the dead and the beats are so cold! Need to open up drumminman! Just sayin'
"if it's not fun, it's not worth it & remember folks, "It's All About The Music"!!
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Yes, they were one of the early groups to put it on wax....some did before them and others followed. We all know not all police are bad.....but many will tell you of unnecessary harassment, stops, unequal treatment by the police. Crazy, I was just having a conversation with one of my co-workers about profiling by the police. He was letting me listed to a blues/R&B song he just recording about the issue. We were talking about how the cops used to pull him over all the time for nothing at all. Said he used to have to take down badge numbers, take pictures, etc and go the the stations and talk to police Sergent and Chiefs to deal with the problem. It finally stopped after he threatened to take legal action using all of his evidence against the departments. Driving while being Black, it real....always has been. Many have stories to tell......from all walks of life.Polkie2009 wrote: »Was it NWA that had all the hate for the police or authority in general?
I agree!, and I understand that the some artists wanted to portray a character or rap about what they have witnessed. However, by association the perception went down hill fast. Then, there was the issue of the youth being influenced by the music. Not a problem for those with a solid foundation but not the type of influence you want to see for those with a less than ideal upbringing. I won't point to the music as the problem....but I've seen some first hand influence by it. I did not mind the hard stuff at all, but the industry just got flooded with at at one point.DarqueKnight wrote: »I don't see gangsta rap as any worse than the scores of songs and movies, over many decades, glorifying and romanticizing the Mafia and other American organized crime figures. In fact, most of the prominent figures in gangsta rap style themselves after prominent American criminals and criminal organizations.
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I'll agree with DK that most these thugs portrayed in Rap aren't really thugs at all. It's a portrayed persona with one goal in mind....money.
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teekay0007 wrote: »
You can go to any high school and get that. lol If you can't, there's something seriously wrong with you.HT SYSTEM-
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Though movies in my day were a form of entertainment and taken as such. Today however, they are used to change perceptions and some take them as factual information.
Movies have always been used as propaganda tools. Look at any of the classic movies from the 40s and you see everyone chain smoking. Why? Because the cigarette companies paid money to have cigarettes figured prominently in films as something "healthful", "cool", and "refreshing".I'd imagine if most movies didn't take liberties with facts, they'd be pretty effin' boring.
Not really. Truth is stranger than fiction. Movies take liberties with facts because they have a particular viewpoint they want to sell.However, I'd argue is that persona beneficial to the people they propose to help ? Of course not, but it does help their own pockets.
Entertainers are like politicians: the number of them that actually want to help people is minuscule. Most are interested in doing whatever they need to do to make as much money as possible.
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John Gott? I guess I would feel better if kids were wearing Armani suits
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check out Fat Lip....pretty funny stuff.
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those movies were fantasy, this one is not however sanitized it is. I lived in that ****halenhoang wrote: »It's an effin movies guys, wtf. Jurassic Park, how much did you know about genetics and dinosaurs? Tom Clancy movies, how much did you know about that? Any comedy movie, how much did you know that?
It's a movie, stop being so effin childish... Wow.
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tophatjohnny wrote: »drumminman wrote: »I hate rap music and the culture that it spawned, so I won't be seeing this one. Yes I am curmudgeonly on this
The word "hate" is not a good thing, and while through my many many years of playing all styles of music, I'd say Rap is not at the top of my fav's of the styles I have laid down tracks for by any means. Even though..I am very much so looking forward to seeing this movie! The learning experience from this crazy life style of the Rap artists is nothing short of amazing and okay....NWA has had me in stiches many a time. Their lyrics can crack up the dead and the beats are so cold! Need to open up drumminman! Just sayin'
I hate evil, that is a good thing
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halenhoang wrote: »It's an effin movies guys, wtf. Jurassic Park, how much did you know about genetics and dinosaurs? Tom Clancy movies, how much did you know about that? Any comedy movie, how much did you know that?
It's a movie, stop being so effin childish... Wow.
Halen
Amen Halen.
Though movies in my day were a form of entertainment and taken as such. Today however, they are used to change perceptions and some take them as factual information.
I'd imagine if most movies didn't take liberties with facts, they'd be pretty effin' boring.
I'll agree with DK that most these thugs portrayed in Rap aren't really thugs at all. It's a portrayed persona with one goal in mind....money. However, I'd argue is that persona beneficial to the people they propose to help ? Of course not, but it does help their own pockets.
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Haven't there been a number of rap artists that have been shot or killed over the years that had some kind of gang affiliation???Post edited by Polkie2009 on
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DarqueKnight wrote: »Though movies in my day were a form of entertainment and taken as such. Today however, they are used to change perceptions and some take them as factual information.
Movies have always been used as propaganda tools. Look at any of the classic movies from the 40s and you see everyone chain smoking. Why? Because the cigarette companies paid money to have cigarettes figured prominently in films as something "healthful", "cool", and "refreshing".I'd imagine if most movies didn't take liberties with facts, they'd be pretty effin' boring.
Not really. Truth is stranger than fiction. Movies take liberties with facts because they have a particular viewpoint they want to sell.However, I'd argue is that persona beneficial to the people they propose to help ? Of course not, but it does help their own pockets.
Entertainers are like politicians: the number of them that actually want to help people is minuscule. Most are interested in doing whatever they need to do to make as much money as possible.
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Its like saying all or most heavy heavy bands worship satan....its just a gimmick to make money...except for King Diamond of courseafterburnt wrote: »halenhoang wrote: »It's an effin movies guys, wtf. Jurassic Park, how much did you know about genetics and dinosaurs? Tom Clancy movies, how much did you know about that? Any comedy movie, how much did you know that?
It's a movie, stop being so effin childish... Wow.
Halen
Amen Halen.
Though movies in my day were a form of entertainment and taken as such. Today however, they are used to change perceptions and some take them as factual information.
I'd imagine if most movies didn't take liberties with facts, they'd be pretty effin' boring.
I'll agree with DK that most these thugs portrayed in Rap aren't really thugs at all. It's a portrayed persona with one goal in mind....money. However, I'd argue is that persona beneficial to the people they propose to help ? Of course not, but it does help their own pockets.
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