Sonos or Fire Tv?

mrbiron
mrbiron Posts: 5,711
I need a little help in this department. The core of my system is my laptop but i'm sick of having a 10' USB cable draped across my living room when i want to listen to music.

I listen to both music on a networked HD (not a NAS) and internet based. I'm really only interested in the audio aspect in this area. I own an Apple TV (which i hate with a passion but it was an Xmas present). My PC is windows based, i have an android phone, and my wife has an Iphone. I have a healthy mix of Flac and MP3.

So which way to go. Sonos ($350) or the Fire Tv ($99).
Can the Fire even hold a candle to the sonos in audio quality?
Which one is easier to use? Streaming music?
Fire TV has a USB port on the back. What can you do with that?

Am i going about this wrong?

Please Help...
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  • docjl
    docjl Posts: 41
    Been a Sonos user for probably 6+ years now. (not familiar with Fire TV)

    Highly recommend. Especially as I have noticed that their apps for android and iPhone/Ipod have become much more user friendly. I believe installation has also become much simpler. Software upgrades are also much easier than they were in years past.

    While I wouldn't by any means consider myself an "audiophile", I would be hard pressed to hear any difference between listening to my tunes on CD vs. from the iTunes library on my Mac (and when I ripped my CD collection several years ago I am pretty sure I didn't do them at the highest/most hifi rate - apologize for not knowing the right terminology here).

    I used to have sporadic problems in my house with the Sonos network (was using a Bridge plugged into my router - with Sonos Connect's at 3 different receivers in my house), but Sonos recently introduced a Sonos Boost which is basically a revved up Bridge, and since installing it (which took less than 2 minutes), I have had no problems with signal being dropped or components not being "found". Also a system that is very easy to expand if you wish to add more rooms, etc.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    Sonos user too but can't speak to the Fire TV as I've never used one. Ease of use, has to go to the Sonos, cd quality ....check, but you won't get higher rez than that. If your files are all lossless 16/44, and your happy with that, then Sonos. You can find them sometimes on Craigslist for 200-250.

    The Fire tv, I'm not up to date on the sound quality of streamed music, but it does do video too so if your a You tube fanatic, it may meet your needs.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Tony, I have an even mix of old mp3s and flacs. Since all my CDs were stolen when I was in college, I do not intend to buy anymore. Mainly using it to stream spotify premium and whatever files i have.

    Doc, I like the idea of the bridge/boost to add more units down the road. Right now I have to get my foot in the door. Baby steps.

    Skip, the budget is always in mind thus why I am looking at the Fire. ;) Can I plug my hardrive straight to it and pull music from that? How is the interface? Do you use a PC to stream and how does that work?

    Thanks for the help guys.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    Sonos lover here also...sound quality, check...ease of install & use, check...expandability, check...smartphone apps, check...Sonos is still tops in the marketplace for it's applications. It's funny how many other companies are now trying to copy their platform. You need to check out the Sonos website to really get an understanding of it's full capabilities...simply amazing! I don't know anything about Fire TV but I would venture to say it's pretty much an apples to oranges comparison.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    I have mediamonkey right now but can easily pick up jriver if need be.

    I just want to hit the play button on either my phone or computer and listen to music minus the USB cable.

    As far as a router, I just bought one of netgears latest and greatest so I'm covered ther .
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  • docjl
    docjl Posts: 41
    DSkip wrote: »

    I'm not aware of how Sonos sets up the network (does it provide its own?), but I do know you need to consider your wireless router if you go with a Fire Stick/WD TV. I had to upgrade mine since it had some buffering issues when the router was under heavy load. Since the upgrade, no issues.



    Skip, the newer Sonos Players can run directly off of your home wifi network, if you are using a Bridge or Boost (with boost being the newer more powerful model), then those set up a proprietary network just for Sonos in your house - recommended if your home wifi has dead spots or isn't reliable, or is crowded with too many other users.

    I used a Bridge for years, with sporadic issues with my players not being found, or getting the dreaded "move closer to your component/bridge" message on my controller. When upgrading my home router I went for the gusto to get the top of the line model Best Buy sold at the time, and was puzzled it made no difference on the issues I had with Sonos - it wasn't until later I realized it was because it had nothing to do with my Sonos network - which was completely separate.

    So far my new Boost has been great and has solved the issues. Setup really was shockingly easy also.
  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,158
    I finally hooked up a squeezebox duet yesterday that I had here for a year or longer. works great. Is the Sonos a much superior sounding device? Thanks

    This would be for internet radio mainly, We live in a radio dead zone.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    WagnerRC wrote: »
    I finally hooked up a squeezebox duet yesterday that I had here for a year or longer. works great. Is the Sonos a much superior sounding device? Thanks

    This would be for internet radio mainly, We live in a radio dead zone.

    No, their about the same. I'd hook up either though to a good dac.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    So, i can honestly say i am a bit confused. To use Spotify for streaming, it has to be done through an app. I want to use my PC. Is this the same for both the sonos and fire?

    After spending a ridiculous amount of time researching, i came across "airfoil".
    https://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/speakers.php

    I'm going to try this first when i get home.
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  • I have a fire tv and love it, things seem to stream much smoother on that than any device i have. I like the RF remote so you don't have to worry about pointing it at anything.

    I even plug a controller into it and play gta san andreas on it sometimes.


    All that being said I use my Xbox one mainly for that stuff now but the fire tv I really liked.
  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,194
    Get a Sonos Connect , pick a few Streaming services you love , use what you have in your iTunes Library and your set.
    Fire TV is not the way to go for what your looking to do.
    Dan
    My personal quest is to save to world of bad audio, one thread at a time.
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    Sonos is nice.... if you can find a squeezebox classic for under 100 thats what I'd do. As long as your wireless signal is strong or you can hardwire your golden.

    Browse the music from your computer/spotify all via the app on your phone/ipad.

    Downside is logitech no longer makes them but it all still works just fine. Been using my Classic for about 2 years now and it just works.

    I may move to Sonos, but for the cheapskate in me the Squeezebox Classic is golden....
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    I would be sure to get the fire tv and not the fire tv stick...if your decide to go that path.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    I think we are all missing the original point...I want to stream off my PC...NOT my phone as I dislike the interface/small screen. I do Spotify Premium and have a slew of mp3 and flac on my PC and hard drive.

    I do not have iTunes, i have MM or if need be, jriver. My music is on a router attached harddrive, not a NAS.

    I...I...I hate when I use I too much in a post!! :(
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  • Thorton
    Thorton Posts: 1,324
    I stream off of Sonos and have a boat load of flac on the PC. The Sonos has been flawless. Easy to set-up and works perfect. The PC is upstairs in a far corner and my system is in the basement downstairs. I'm also using MM and it works great with the Sonos. You can use a tablet or phone to search through your files (through Sonos) or stream. You can also use the computer to control everything through Sonos.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Skip, with that said, can I do exactly what I am looking for with the Fire?!

    Thanks for the input Thornton, I needed someone to come out and say exactly that!!!

    I'm installing airfoil as we speak.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    DSkip wrote: »
    I like the Sonos but its just so damn expensive when other devices do the same thing for a tiny fraction of the cost. If the Sonos were half the cost, I would've tried it like I did the Polk Omni P1 when it was half-off. Unfortunately, that experiment did not turn out well, but it did lead me to experiment with streaming devices and find one that I really enjoy and use daily.

    Expensive ? C'mon man.....

    Other products do basically the same thing, but not without some glitches and not as user friendly. Plus the software and expandability of the Sonos is also key. Is there better ? Sure is, but not without plunking down even more coin. For what Sonos offers, it's priced about right, plus buying used can half that even.

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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    I can tell you this, Airfoil is a finnicky little b*tch but it works.
    Am i happy.......no
    The EQing is all over the place.

    Meh.......
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,204
    Yes, Fire TV can be controlled with your PC. I just now sent The Black Keys to play on my living room/patio setup. If I want I can also link it to my HT and/or my computer room setup.

    You may want to use it, but you will have the option of using your phone, tablet, etc. as a remote if you ever choose to do so.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    I agree with DSkip on the expense. FireTV is $99, 80ish refurbed by Amzn, can be used for video if you want, holds on to weak signal better than my SBTouch, sounds as good as SBT or Sonos, and there's no maximum # of tracks like the Sonos has. (Is it still 65k?). Downside is Fire is digital out only. Also, I haven't figured out how to stream Tidal through it. (Anyone doing this?)

    The track cap is the main reason I never used Sonos at home. I do use it at the beach and love it (predominantly streaming). The interface is as nice as I've seen and streaming is very easy. It hasn't been completely problem-free though - I have to reboot the whole system more often than I would like.

    I'm putting in FireTV's for video, so I might eventually shed a Connect or two. I also like the space-saving powered players - I have a Play5 (bath) and a dual Play1 (kitchen) - and like those. They are elegantly designed, but I don't consider them to be any great value. I ordered a Boost to increase the range on my iPhone controller and a W4S Remedy for my main unit that feeds 6 zones with a Sonance 12x50. Not sure if the Remedy will make enough difference to justify cost.

    If track capacity is not a problem and you're going to stream primarily, I'd probably go with Sonos.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    Another plus with Sonos are the number of free music services...and they keep on adding. My in-laws feel in love with Sonos after seeing/hearing it in operation at my house. They are immigrants from Germany & love their German music. Between the radio stations & now Slacker they can listen to their hearts content. Slacker has found every German artist they like & they made it into their own German station.

    Oh & this is all being done by elderly folks that are not at all computer savy. The Sonos application is so darn easy that even they (and my wife) had it down pat in no time. The only downside is every time we visit we're bombarded with um-pah pah music blasting. As long as they're happy...we're happy. Great in-laws by the way.
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  • jeremymarcinko
    jeremymarcinko Posts: 3,785
    Another upside for the fire tv is that is has spotify connect. Being that you are a spotify user, you can play spotify from the fire tv while controlling it with your pc or smart phone. If all you are wanting though is a DLNA device for music only, than go with the Hapurs WiFi music streamer. It can handle mp3, Flac, etc. It uses an optical out or its own wolfson dac via 3.5mm analog out. I have also read that you can plug a usb drive into it as well, but have not tried it to be sure. This really is nice little box for the money. I use mine for several hours everyday, streaming flac from Jriver, or spotify from airfoil. The mp3/flac files from jriver works without a hitch, but streaming pcm via dlna from airfloil sometimes gives me some trouble, when the microwave is running or when the video baby monitor is nearby.
    If you plan to use a TV though, I think the fire tv is your best bet as it does many other things, but in a strictly two channel setup I think the Hapurs is the way to go.

    http://www.amazon.com/Hapurs-Streaming-Receiver-Extender-AirMusic/dp/B00M5EVR6U/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1425182128&sr=8-11&keywords=wifi+music+player
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    Also, there are ways around the 65k limit. Though I challenge anyone who actually listens to 65k songs.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Don't worry about the 65K worth of music....this chump does not qualify!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    Neither does this one. I'll bet I listen to the same 500 songs over and over.
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    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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    Sonos zp90
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    lsi 9's
  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    tonyb wrote: »
    Also, there are ways around the 65k limit.
    Can you share how to do it?

    Don't want to derail things, but if this is possible outside of multiple libraries, I'd jump on it. I want to be able to listen to any of the tracks, regardless of genre (that's usually the suggested way to split libraries up); so that is not a workaround I'm willing to use. To me personally, this is not an insignificant limitation, nor an invalid criticism of the system, regardless of workarounds. I'd love to be able to use Sonos at home too. So if there is a way to do it, please let me know - here, in a new thread, or PM.
    tonyb wrote: »
    Though I challenge anyone who actually listens to 65k songs.
    Not sure what you are challenging? Are you implying that I should have stopped buying albums at some predetermined number or not digitize everything? What is the maximum that one could/should "actually listen to"? Is it the same number for me as it is for you? I have more speakers than I can listen to at any one point. Does the same idea of limitation apply to speakers?
    tonyb wrote: »
    Neither does this one. I'll bet I listen to the same 500 songs over and over.
    I be the first to admit I'm weird. I have a Favorites list that usually has 5-10 songs and I play those incessantly - usually to test new gear or combination. My son claims he will never, for the rest of his life, ever intentionally listen to Earth Wind & Fire's All 'n' All, hehe. I'd bet the same goes for Aja.

    But, if I DON"T listen to those few songs, I'm all over the place. Based on whim, mood, connections, wanting to learn...whatever. It's why I've bought waayyy too many albums over the years and why digital ease of use is so attractive (and why vinyl remains a good antidote to my schizophrenic listening habits).

    I just don't want to be limited to what I can listen to. And, sadly, the OCD in me pushes me to digitize everything. Some of the albums I've archived, I'd bet, haven't been listened to all the way through EVER. like I said, I'm weird. But I want a system that can best meet my needs - weirdness and all.
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Don't worry about the 65K worth of music....this chump does not qualify!
    It's just a matter of time, hehe. Give it 40 years or so... The Sonos is excellent. I'm sure you'll be very happy with it if that's your choice.

    Cheers!
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    vcwatkins wrote: »
    It's just a matter of time, hehe. Give it 40 years or so... The Sonos is excellent. I'm sure you'll be very happy with it if that's your choice.

    Cheers!
    Another Chump

    hahaha....not happening. I just did some rough math. (65000/16)(average # of tracks per cd) *$20 = $80,000.
    Not happening unless i can pay you people to fill a hardrive for me ;););)

    Realistically, im probably in the realm of 15k-20k at this point. It could happen but since I dont buy hard media anymore, it might take me a while.

    As a side note, i appreciate everyones help thus far!
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,967
    edited April 2015
    You can read up on getting around the 65k limit on the Sonos forums.

    Lets say every cd/album you buy, there's maybe 5 songs on average you like or even want to listen to repeatedly. I say there's even less, but for the sake of argument, lets say 5. That's 13,000 albums, with 5 songs on each to reach that 65k limit. How many of you have 13,000 albums ?

    At roughly 3 minutes a song, that's 195k minutes or 3250 hours or 135 days of playing music 24/7 with no repeats. I call B.S. to anyone who thinks they listen to that much music. If you want to store 10k albums, get a NAS, heck, their cheap enough these days.

    Just putting it into perspective, not all things apply to everyone obviously.
    Don't know about some of you, but when I download a cd, I don't download the crappy songs too, just the ones I'm going to listen to. Why store a whole album or cd when only half will ever see the light of day.
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    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Tony! Why all the turmoil? :D:D

    The new rule on the streets is every man is judged by the size of his album collection. I am what is known as a "little man" in some circles.

    To get back to the original point here, i still have not been able to figure out the streaming to fire thing. Sonos is straight forward but yet again, costs a small Kenyan town. In the sonos software, you can set up a directly (library) to pull straight from a hardrive location via network? Again, no NAS, just a hardrive plugged into the USB port on my fancy shmancy router that i can get access through the Netgear software.
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  • vcwatkins
    vcwatkins Posts: 1,993
    edited April 2015
    That's not a "way around the 65k limit". That's settling on the 65k limit. That's probably fine for 99% of Sonos users, but not for me in my goal of using the archive (as opposed to collection of songs I'll most likely want to listen to). At home:
    - I do rip every song
    - I use a NAS and a USB3 HD
    - I rip about half my vinyl at 24/96
    - I can listen to any of those songs over SBT or a $99 FireTV, but not so for Sonos
    - The SBT plays hi-rez and, when playing 12/48, has slightly better sound quality than Sonos IMO
    - The FireTV will play 24/96 files using the SBPlayer app, but it hits my DAC at 48. Not sure how/where it gets downconverted, but it does play and it sounds good.
    - I can't stream Tidal with FireTV. But since it's connected to the archive library, it's not that big a deal. If I want to hear something new to me, I can use Spotify.

    At the beach, I use Sonos all day every day, primarily to stream Tidal, and I'm very happy with that.

    Not sure if any of this is helpful to the OP. Thanks for the response, tonyb. I'd beer ya if I could.

    Craig
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    Beach Master: WiiM Pro * Dayens Menuetto * Zu Libtec * Dynaudio Audience 50
    Beach Den: Bluesound Powernode 2i * DH Labs SS Q10 * Zu Omen DWII * Richard Gray RGPC
    Town Study: WiiM Pro * Chord Qute (Pardo) * Elekit TU-8600 * MIT S3 * Revel M22 * Beyer DT-990 * Shunyata Hydra 2
    Town Den: Music Hall mm5.1se - Denon DL-103r - Jolida JD9ii (mods) * WiiM Pro * Cary xCiter * Rogue 99 Magnum * Schiit Aegir * MIT S3 * Polk SRS 1.2tl (mods) * Dectet * Bottlehead Crack - Senn 600
    Town Porch: WiiM Pro Plus * Sunfire Sig II * Canare 4S11 * Magnepan 1.6 * Dectet