Rogue M-180's on the way.

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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    edited March 2015
    tratliff wrote: »
    No need to feel inferior. We all learn from each other. It was just my turn/time to purchase. In just over 3 months I replaced everything in my system but the oppo 105. I wonder what might be next....

    You bought the SLP05? Dang man, you just keep going.

    I did think about selling you mine because when I thought about it, I wanted a black one and I know there's a black one for sale.

    Either way, that's great man... PM me the price you got it for, I like to know what these guys are picking up these days. Do you have a link to the sale? I want to see the unit...

    Welcome to the 05 club!

    Next time get the 211FE!
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,701
    Yeah, I got the silver one. For some reason I like silver products. Should match the Rogue's pretty well.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Well it's time for the FE brother man.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    I definitely like having another 05 club member here.
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,701
    I can't wait to see how it changes things. I think this will put me where I want to be. At least for now.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    tratliff wrote: »
    I can't wait to see how it changes things. I think this will put me where I want to be. At least for now.

    I'm going to roll in some tubes into the gain stages of the 05.

    What I really want is that they come out with like a 15... would be killer, I bet.

    I've been eyeballing (you know) the ARC Ref 10... freaking unreal build, though awfully expensive.
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,701
    But I have created one problem that no one has mentioned yet. This is only a line-level and I have a turn table.
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    tratliff wrote: »
    But I have created one problem that no one has mentioned yet. This is only a line-level and I have a turn table.

    Uh yeah.. hahaha...
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    tratliff wrote: »
    But I have created one problem that no one has mentioned yet. This is only a line-level and I have a turn table.
    thought you were wanting to get rid of the table.
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  • [Deleted User]
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    tratliff wrote: »
    But I have created one problem that no one has mentioned yet. This is only a line-level and I have a turn table.

    Are you using the Oppo as source and DAC? Once you get your pre and have things dialed in, let me know. I have my Chord, a Lampizator on stand by and a tube DAC coming in. The tube DAC is 24/196, but to me, beat the Meitner and a certain MSB.

    Cheers,
    Halen
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Btw, Todd - when you're ready, I might be moving up from the 306sacd so let me know.
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,203
    DSkip wrote: »
    I feel inferior.
    You feel inferior??? I'm the stepchild of the DFW Polkies with my lowly Usher 6311's, Sunfire Grand Cinema, and Oppo 105. In many circles I'd be feeling pretty good about my system, but here its about like a HTiB :D
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    halenhoang wrote: »
    tratliff wrote: »
    But I have created one problem that no one has mentioned yet. This is only a line-level and I have a turn table.

    Are you using the Oppo as source and DAC? Once you get your pre and have things dialed in, let me know. I have my Chord, a Lampizator on stand by and a tube DAC coming in. The tube DAC is 24/196, but to me, beat the Meitner and a certain MSB.

    Cheers,
    Halen

    Any thoughts on the Lampizator ? Heard good things about them, which version do you have ?
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  • WLDock
    WLDock Posts: 3,073
    tratliff wrote: »
    I can't wait to see how it changes things. I think this will put me where I want to be. At least for now.
    Please, try the 05 with the A21 and give your thoughts. I'm sure many would like this...

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    Many including me. I personally think with his speakers a tubed pre and SS amp is his ticket. We shall see once he gets everything together and fired up.
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Is this the "ballers" thread. You guys panning for gold?? You got b*tches on both arms??

    Congrats on the purchase. As of late, you guys are truly putting together some higher end systems that for most, are mere wet dreams.
    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Is this the "ballers" thread. You guys panning for gold?? You got b*tches on both arms??

    Congrats on the purchase. As of late, you guys are truly putting together some higher end systems that for most, are mere wet dreams.

    That is hilarious
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  • mrbiron
    mrbiron Posts: 5,711
    Joey_V wrote: »
    That is hilarious
    It's true, the select few of you are really upping the game and making the rest of us feel like our wives will be leaving us :p




    Which is encouraged by the way......

    Where’s the KABOOM?!?! There’s supposed to be an Earth shattering KABOOM!!!
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  • WagnerRC
    WagnerRC Posts: 2,157
    congrats on the purchase. very nice
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    DSkip wrote: »
    I feel inferior.
    You feel inferior??? I'm the stepchild of the DFW Polkies with my lowly Usher 6311's, Sunfire Grand Cinema, and Oppo 105. In many circles I'd be feeling pretty good about my system, but here its about like a HTiB :D

    LOL.... wonder what that makes the rest of us......

    I feel like the kid on the commercials..... For just 39 cents a day you to can fund an upgrade fund for the corn eating audiophiles of the midwest. They deserve tube goodness just like the rest of us. Its a basic human right...
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Is this the "ballers" thread. You guys panning for gold?? You got b*tches on both arms??

    No doubt.... Now if you'd have started a side business clearning snow this year.... well you'd have a tube amp powering your trucks speakers with all the snow you guys have gotten :tongue:

    Know Skip, he's been taking bribes for grades :trollface:

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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,963
    edited March 2015
    Nah, Skip isn't the bribe type. He's more so the "wanna touch my crack for a $20 ? " type.


    which explains why he's broke....lol
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    tonyb wrote: »
    Nah, Skip isn't the bribe type. He's more so the "wanna touch my crack for a $20 ? " type.


    which explains why he's broke....lol

    Bahahaha....
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Joey_V wrote: »
    That is hilarious
    It's true, the select few of you are really upping the game and making the rest of us feel like our wives will be leaving us :p




    Which is encouraged by the way......

    Nah man... threads like this are dangerous. I am trying to be at peace with my system... it's still a work in progress and I don't want to spend anymore money for the next few months....

    ... must exercise self control.
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,701
    So, its been a couple of weeks. I have the Rogues in place and the Cary SLP05 pushing them.

    My system has made a very good progression. When I got the Rogues connected and still had the P5 I could instantly tell that the difference in separation was so much better. The amps are natural sounding and have tamed down the highs that were sometimes present with the A21 on bad recordings.

    Then I installed the Cary SLP05. It is a great preamp and might just be the last preamp I every buy. The control that it provides is not something that I have ever had the chance to spend much time listening to. The clarity, naturalness, separation and soundstage really pull me in and I find myself listening for hours at a time. The bass is very accurate but may have lost just a slight bit of slam.

    I am still dialing everything in and have not had a change to try out the A21 on the bottom and the Rogue M-180's on the top. I am currently looking at changing out some of the IC's and the SC's (once again). After bringing in the new equipment and the reconfiguration of the rack some of my interconnects are not long enough.

    So far I am very pleased with the upgrades and look forward to enjoying it for at least a couple of weeks. :)
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    Trat,
    Just a thought . . . I'll be Dynamatting the thin metal 180 cases and I'm considerng switching-up to HiFi Tuning Classic Gold fuses. . But, there's 6 fuses per mono@$80 each mono?? Not sure if that'll pay-off
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  • Joey_V
    Joey_V Posts: 8,552
    Try 05 with a21 first
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,701
    Glen -

    Please let me know how the upgrade goes. The fuses sound interesting but I question the path they are in. The reason I say that is because the other night I went to bias my tubes. When I removed the cage from the left amp I nicked one tube. I didn't worry much about it but when I got to that tube in the biasing it was reading zero. I reset the switch and checked the amp for how it was playing. The tube was lite, the amp played fine. I then tried to check the bias again. It once again was reading zero.

    The next day I called Rogue and talked to tech support. His suggestion was to check the fuse and that if it was blown that would more than likely be the reason I could not get a reading. That started me wondering if the fuse was only in the path of the bias meter and not in the signal path. If it is only in the bias path then I am not sure the fuse upgrade would improve sound quality.

    I have not had a chance to replace the fuse but the amp is working as expected.
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  • marvda1
    marvda1 Posts: 4,901
    my question is which would make the most improvement, power cords or fuses.
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  • tratliff
    tratliff Posts: 1,701
    edited April 2015
    Hey Marvin and Skip -

    I am not looking to upgrade my fuses that was Glenn above. I just need to replace one of mine. But I do think it would be interesting to see/hear the results he finds with new ones. Power cables are on the list next.
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  • GlennDog
    GlennDog Posts: 3,120
    DSkip wrote: »
    My comment was directed at Glenn. :)

    Several moths ago, I did ask Rogue, (the helpful guy that answered the phone, not Mark O'brien the owner). Although he never tried upgraded fuses, he did not seem to think it was worth while, Cost wise. But, now that the fuses are deeply discounted, what the F?

    Each M180 takes 6 fuses

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