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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,180
    I don't think Polk management is aiming for any particular age group here. The problem is they aren't thinking at all.

    Bud - Silicon Valley

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  • Sometimes I feel like I'd like to #HASHTAG Polk management right in the puss.

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  • ViperZViperZ Posts: 2,046
    Polk is trying to market towards the 'younger' generation, but it doesn't seem to work. I posted my concerns around this horror of a forum on their Facebook page, and my comments were happily ignored.
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  • pitdogg2pitdogg2 Posts: 14,702
    Until Polk comes out with a phone the younger crowd will never be their customer....plain and simple but even then Polk has missed the bus.
  • F1nutF1nut Posts: 42,958
    When 158 out of 176 tell you that you messed up, it would behoove you to take heed regardless of your intentions.

    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • Didn't have to think or read any comments.

    Old Forum please.

    Right or left boob? Yes.

    what he said
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  • TennManTennMan Posts: 1,064
    Attention fans of Vintage Polk Speakers!

    Like many of you, I really dislike this new forum format. So much so that I'm willing to start a new website with a forum for the discussion and sharing of information about vintage Polk speakers. It would be a website designed and run by me so it could be tweaked to whatever works best for us vintage Polk speaker enthusiasts. The new website would NOT include all the other forums that this website provides.

    This is just a feeler to see how much interest there is for this. My question is:
    If I build a new forum for vintage Polk speakers like we had before will you participate in it?


    The forum I'm proposing isn't intended to interfere or compete with Polk Audio's website or forum in any way. I though about starting a new topic about this but I don't want to appear to be disrespectful of what Polk provides us now.

    Thanks for your input.

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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,180
    Any format that DOES NOT have a 'What are you listening to" thread. What a post w h o r e thread that is. :)

    I guess it is the lack of audio discussions here that prompted that outburst.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

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    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Any format that DOES NOT have a 'What are you listening to" thread. What a post w h o r e thread that is. :)

    I guess it is the lack of audio discussions here that prompted that outburst.

    Well Fox, it's audio discussion that doomed this place. Why ? Because audio discussion entails more than just Polk products. Can't have that now can we ?

    So we get a dumbed down over scrutinized, fisher-price forum for the kiddies who don't know what they don't know and have a fistful of mommy and daddy's money.

    Audio discussion, be it Polk brands or not, entices people to up their game....move up the Polk line and in some cases out of the Polk line. It's the "out of the Polk line" I think some have a problem with.

    Comes down to how you view the forum and it's purpose if you ask me. We, the long time members view it as an audio forum. Polk probably views it as a marketing tool for it's own products. See the inherit conflict ?
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  • BlueFoxBlueFox Posts: 12,180
    Maybe, but simple incompetence is also a possibility.
    Bud - Silicon Valley

    Lumin X1
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD
    Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on preamp, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    edited November 2014
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Maybe, but simple incompetence is also a possibility.

    Normally I might agree with that, but not on this level and consistency. There's a plan being implemented.....all businesses have a plan, good or bad as it may be.

    Check out this link to the board members of DEI. Click on each name to get a summery of their background and education. Notice any similarities ?

    http://www.deiholdings.com/boardofdirectors/
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,446
    tonyb wrote: »
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Maybe, but simple incompetence is also a possibility.

    Normally I might agree with that, but not on this level and consistency. There's a plan being implemented.....all businesses have a plan, good or bad as it may be.

    Check out this link to the board members of DEI. Click on each name to get a summery of their background and education. Notice any similarities ?

    http://www.deiholdings.com/boardofdirectors/

    All Ivy League Bean Counters. Professional Money Men.
    Other than display samples in their offices, how many do you think actually own anything with a Polk name on it.
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    Yep....professional money men. Obviously who know each other too from former companies they worked at.

    Also goes back to my other assertions that these money men follow each other from company to company drawing huge salaries, benefits, while raising a companies financials on paper to get ready to be sold again....often times at a cost of destroying said company and the loyal people that had worked for them. I've seen it many, many times in my years.
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    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • cnhcnh Posts: 13,310
    And yet no Ph.D.s? Just a JD, whoever said Lawyers were smart? Certainly NOT I! lol

    One Million Lawyers

    Words and Music by Tom Paxton

    Humankind has survived some disasters, for sure,
    Like locusts and flash floods and flu.
    There's never a moment when we've been secure,
    From the ills that the flesh is heir to.
    If it isn't a war, it's some gruesome disease.
    If it isn't disease, then it's war.
    But there's worse still to come, and I'm asking you, please,
    How the world's gonna take any more.

    [Cho:]
    In ten years we're gonna have one million lawyers.
    One million lawyers, one million lawyers.
    In ten years we're gonna have one million lawyers.
    How much can a poor nation stand?

    The world shook with dread of Attila the Hun
    As he conquered with fire and steel.
    And Genghis and Kubla and all of the Khans
    Ground a groaning world under the heel.
    Disaster, disaster - so what else is new?
    We've suffered the worst, and then some.
    So I'm sorry to tell you, my suffering friends,
    Of the terrible scourge still to come.

    [Cho:]

    Oh, a suffering world cries for mercy.
    As far as the eye can see,
    Lawyers around every bend in the road.
    Lawyers in every tree.
    Lawyers in restaurants.
    Lawyers in clubs.
    Lawyers behind every door.
    Behind windows and potted plants,
    Shade trees and shrubs.
    Lawyers on pogo sticks.
    Lawyers in politics.
    In ten years we're gonna have one million lawyers.
    How much can a poor nation stand.

    In spring it's tornados and rampaging floods;
    In summer it's heat stroke and drought.
    There's Ivy League football to ruin the fall,
    It's a terrible scourge without doubt.
    There are blizzards to batter the shivering plain.
    There are dust storms that strike, but far worse
    Is the threat of disaster to shrivel the brain;
    It's the threat of implacable curse.


    Actually, the list of qualifications looks pretty standard for Business/Corporate types. What would be MORE interesting is how many came from "money" originally and how many did NOT.

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

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  • westmassguywestmassguy Posts: 6,446
    What would be nice, is at least one of them had a background in Audio.

    They do travel in their little clicks. One joins, and the others follow.
    Very common in Hospitals/Healthcare too.
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    Front: SDA-2ATL forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/143984/my-2as-finally-finished-almost/p1
    Center: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/150760/my-center-channel-project/p1
    Surrounds & Rears: Custom Built forum.polkaudio.com/discussion/151647/my-surround-project/p1
    Sonicaps, Mills, RDO-194s-198s, Dynamat, Hurricane Nuts, Blackhole5
    Pioneer Elite VSX-72TXV, Carver PM-600, SVS PB2-Plus Subwoofer
    Cables: Speaker: Furez 10/2 with GLS Locking Banana Plugs
    Interconnect: Furez 10/2 with SpeakONs
    ICs: Custom Furez by Douglas Connections
    Den:
    Bose 901 Series II Continentals Restored, Re-Built Equalizer with Elna Silmic IIs, Sonicaps, and Silver Mica Caps
    Carver CT-3 Pre, Carver C-500

    dhsspeakerservice.com/
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  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    edited November 2014
    Well, maybe so but I've been privy to the benefit packages these types receive and salaries....it would blow your mind. Especially for the amount of actual work done.
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    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

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    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • Bummed to see this place still sucks, much as the people would like to change that.

    Polk CS, are you listening? You're aggravating your most loyal customer base. Not only have my visits here nearly stopped, but so have my visits to the main Polk Audio site, especially with the axing of the vintage product information. Do you not see the problem with this? It's reduced opportunity to introduce old customers to new products, create a buzz over new products, get and keep people talking about those products.

    Beyond that to some (at least to me) it's an indication of a fundamental shift in thinking, that your customers aren't actually important to you anymore and makes me hesitate to recommend your products to others. Multiply that times thousands of people, calculate the waterfall effect created by that and suddenly someone begins to wonder why sales are poor.

    Maybe I'm completely wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but you are alienating the people your company was built on. Sure there may only be a handful of people vocalizing their concerns but I guarantee for every one speaking up there are a hundreds of potential customers that shrug and move along. I can tell you from experience I choose to do business with a company who'd website is open, inviting, and most importantly easy to navigate. Neither the forums or the main site fits that criteria anymore.

    Sincerely,
    Someone who used to be a fan.



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  • TennManTennMan Posts: 1,064
    oldrocker wrote: »
    I'd visit.
    Alright oldrocker!!! Looks like it's just going to be you and me. I'll let you know when I get 'er done. :D

    SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat · Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
    Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
    Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
    Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
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  • voltzvoltz Posts: 5,288
    I would show up for sure Ronnie :) I always got my ears open for vintage talk, want to learn all I can about them SDA's. And some day I'll find my pair.
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  • WTH happened to this place,,I used to look forward to coming here after a day at work,,,RIP
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  • TennManTennMan Posts: 1,064
    voltz wrote: »
    I would show up for sure Ronnie :)...
    Thanks. I really didn't think there would be much support for another old school forum but it didn't hurt to ask. As the old guys like me drop out of this forum, what will be left is the facebook crowd that probably prefers this format. They are in the age group that are more likely to be buying the new Polk speakers than just wanting to talk about the old ones. Maybe that was the plan of the powers-that-be all along.

    SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat · Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
    Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
    Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
    Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
    SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
  • treitz3treitz3 Posts: 13,103
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yep....professional money men. Obviously who know each other too from former companies they worked at.

    Also goes back to my other assertions that these money men follow each other from company to company drawing huge salaries, benefits, while raising a companies financials on paper to get ready to be sold again....often times at a cost of destroying said company and the loyal people that had worked for them. I've seen it many, many times in my years.
    Great minds think alike. That was my exact first thought as well. Unfortunately.

    Tom

    In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence.

    The best way to enjoy digital music reproduction is to never listen to good analogue reproduction.

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  • cnhcnh Posts: 13,310
    treitz3 wrote: »
    tonyb wrote: »
    Yep....professional money men. Obviously who know each other too from former companies they worked at.

    Also goes back to my other assertions that these money men follow each other from company to company drawing huge salaries, benefits, while raising a companies financials on paper to get ready to be sold again....often times at a cost of destroying said company and the loyal people that had worked for them. I've seen it many, many times in my years.
    Great minds think alike. That was my exact first thought as well. Unfortunately.

    Tom

    The TRUTH meter has just gone past MAX here! Not much else left to say: stick a fork in them they're done!

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
  • tonybtonyb Posts: 31,642
    cnh wrote: »
    The TRUTH meter has just gone past MAX here! Not much else left to say: stick a fork in them they're done!

    cnh

    Hold the phone....have to mark this day down on the calendar. Are you actually....like....agreeing with me ?

    If so...stop it, or I'll have to bill you for the emergency care services when my heart stops. lol

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    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1430
    Tad 803 speakers
  • vmaxervmaxer Posts: 4,467
    TennMan wrote: »
    oldrocker wrote: »
    I'd visit.
    Alright oldrocker!!! Looks like it's just going to be you and me. I'll let you know when I get 'er done. :D

    I will certainly show up there, let us know when it is up and running.
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    RT25i's -2, using other 2 in shop
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    CSi40
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,046
    tonyb wrote: »
    F1nut wrote: »
    I guess that's the age group they're trying to entice here.

    If that's the case, it isn't working.

    No kidding.....that "age group" doesn't spend time on audio forums. They spend half their life on social media, not talking audio products. Somebody needs to get a clue down at corporate.

    Ditto X 10
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  • GlennDogGlennDog Posts: 2,046
    Yeah, time to move on. Unfortunately with the lack of traffic to this forum I will probably spend less time here. I don't find the need to check the forum more than once a day. Honestly the less I am involved with this forum the less I am interested in Polk in general. It's kind-a weird, but there seems to be a correlation. So I will "move on" to other forums and perhaps other brands.

    I can totally relate to this as well . . . How can I earn another (useless) Badge??
    My lie revolves around Badges!!!
    Power Rogue M180 monos & Adcom GFA 5802
    PS Audio PerfectWave Power Plant 10
    Rears Salk SuperCharged Surrounds
    Source PSA PWT into NSD Supremo
    Pre/Pro Integra DHC 40.1
    LCD Samsung LN46B750
    Mains Salk HT2-TL
    Center Salk HT2C
    Pre Cary SLP-05
    Wires WW & MIT
  • oldrockeroldrocker Posts: 2,225
    Ok TennMan, been a few days now where is the new site? I know you young whipper snappers have way more computer savy than I do..
  • cnhcnh Posts: 13,310
    Echoing Tony's comment above. This age group is fairly "fickle". If it's popular with the over 30 crowd it is PHASED out by those under 30. Take FACEBOOK for example. Among those my daughter's age or a little older, it's getting a BAD REP because PARENTS are USING IT! lol

    So, POLK, be careful what you ask for, because trying to be "young" is a losing battle, you'd have to change this forum EVERY SIX MONTHS and you'd still not be cool enough! lol

    Short attention spans, dozens of fads, 1000s of people in marketing tweaking trends endlessly; CREATORS OF DESIRE! You do know that you have to instill needs and wants in people they didn't know they had, right? And you have to keep doing that OVER and OVER and OVER again?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
    [sig. changed on a monthly basis as I rotate in and out of my stash]
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