Polk Audio SDA SRS Modification Thread Part 2 - The "Ultimate Build"

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    I wanted to mention I was able to play the SDA SRS with the C Coil (.15 DCR) on a cheap receiver up to about 80-85 DB without any type of issues.
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    Little update

    "The speakers sound spectacular. Much more open and detailed than with the original crossovers, and they really open up the music. If they will improve as the new parts get conditioned & burned in there won't be enough superlatives to describe them! To help accelerate the burn-in tomorrow the tuner will be hooked up and kept on when not using the CD player.

    Tomorrow I may try them without the front covers and the internal light dialed up. When seated I may be looking right into the windows.

    You have made a great speaker exceptional and resolved the problems with capacitors at or beyond their life expectancy, and the "old" technology being outdated.

    Thanks for putting this project together. "
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    200 hour update -

    A tuner was used to run the stereo system for the past 10 days with little "off" time, passing the 200 hour mark yesterday.

    When now playing the same CD as in the first few hours the soundstage is much broader and deeper, and the richness and detail in the material is substantially increased (at least 30% to 35%).

    The system now shows how many CDs are not recorded with a lot of depth and richness to the material. Those CDs with "depth" to the recording really come to life. The best example is with triangles on one recording where the strike, resonance, and decay of the tone is real and "suspended in air." The tight control over the bass now also brings out nuances that were not even heard with the original crossovers.

    The speakers sound better than anything I've ever experienced! Thanks for making this happen, and for all of your time and effort. Let me know if there I anything I can do to help with your future projects.

    He is using an assortment of high powered Krell gear with a large spacious room :)
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 22,992
    wow...
    WHen I get around to doing the SRS/M cabinet project, I might want to do something similar.

    Congrats to both of you for raising the bar for the rest of us to follow.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    Definitely man, I just ask to mix it up how it looks and is constructed. Maybe we can talk up on a cool design for it :)

    Thank you for the compliments! :)
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    The speakers at their homej1z297eo2owk.jpg
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • xjghost
    xjghost Posts: 1,000
    Wow..... That is so cool!
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 11,553
    mrbiron wrote: »
    Trey, your work has evolved into something quite awesome.

    He's fooling you, his Transformer robots do all the work while he sleeps

    Nice job

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    Thanks guys!! :-D

    The Transformers do way more work than me... lol (I wish)
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • Awesome!!! I would love to hear them, I can only imagine.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    Thank you sir :)
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    edited June 2015
    The owner sent me some updated photos!

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    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 459
    edited August 2015
    Hey Trey
    Would these upgrades change the s/n ratio , sensativety and frequency response etc?
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    Technically speaking, no, but you can generally see small differences between stock and modified crossovers. It is within the specifications of the speakers.
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 45,610
    FYI, speakers do not have a signal to noise ratio spec.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    +1 DSkip, I would say the signal to noise ratio on stock crossovers is 100%, It receives a signal and outputs noise... ;) heheheh
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • ptrooper
    ptrooper Posts: 459
    @F1nut good to see your on the ball ,,just testing ya : )
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 14,629
    edited August 2015
    Not sure if anyone else has noticed this but the use of the Clarity MR caps took the longest to settle in comparison to other caps I have used, (Sonic, Solen)..
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,762
    Of the four sets of crossovers Vr3 Mods has done for me, the most recent set, using Clarity MRs, took by far the longest to burn in -- over 300 hours. There was significant improvement at the 250 hours point, but somewhere north of 300-325 hours my SDA SRS 1.2TLs really blossomed, opened up. An amazing experience! :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    I remember when the MR capacitors on my Super Towers were breaking in, me and @lightman1 were here enjoying a few glasses of alcoholic beverages around Thanksgiving. We were going through the paces on the Super Towers and it was like a switch was hit, they simply blossomed into this whole other dimension of insanity.
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 24,379
    VR3 wrote: »
    Ok, after many designs and a lot of thrown away pieces we had to find a handle design that worked. We went with a throw back of the old but more substantial, milled from 1" wide, 1/2" deep aluminum

    This will come together quickly, everything gets painted soon and everything will be pre-wiredxe38273ab06j.jpg
    before it goes on the chassisnhvkj6gg0ua2.jpg

    @xschop example 1
    - Not Tom

    "No, that's silly talk. Dude, you can't possibly be this audio dumb so quit the act." - Doro
  • xschop
    xschop Posts: 2,050
    edited October 2020
    So cool, reminds me of a Pass Labs design/look. Nice job again.
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