I bought a Porsche on ebay without knowing anything about it

mrbigbluelight

Congrats, PFB, on your new wheels.

NOTE: I've checked the United Nations Uniform Codes for Contractual Obligations and have discovered that I am free to relinquish my previously call for "SHOTGUN.
So ..... whew ..... the position is now free and clear, so step right up ! First come, first served ! : ' )

teamjhertz

Polkfarmboy your Private messages are full.

polkfarmboy

teamjhertz wrote: »

Polkfarmboy your Private messages are full.

You can blame that on Ken Bryston as he sends messages on a regular basis

SCompRacer

polkfarmboy wrote: »

If I bought a manual then how would I hold my glass wine?

You could use one of these although they might attract unwanted attention with a bottle of ripple or your fav white or red in place of the beer cans....



Have fun, enjoy your ride!

nooshinjohn

PFB threads should be turned into Pay-Per-View events...

Malbec

A bottle of Ripple????? Holy crap talk about flashbacks. Sometimes I wish I could return to those days.

Polkersince85

SCompRacer wrote: »

You could use one of these although they might attract unwanted attention with a bottle of ripple or your fav white or red in place of the beer cans.... ;

He could use an **** bag or rather the more manly version, the Camelbak.

heiney9

nguyendot wrote: »

No, it's an auto. Tiptronic, not triptronic.

It's an automatic with the ability to interfere electronically with the shift patterns (which is a LOT slower than leaving it in sport mode or a real automatic). Tiptronic is a joke, a bad one too. If it had DSG or PDK like the new ones then maybe I'd brag about it. Otherwise it's useless except for holding a gear in passing. A real manual has a clutch in there somewhere, which you don't have.

Exactly! I've driven tiptronic cars and I own a DSG car (GTi), the differences are night and day.

H9

devani

A car without a clutch pedal is an automatic, no matter what!!

no clutch pedal means it's something my wife can drive (P means parking, D means drive and R means reverse) and she has one of those....

nooshinjohn

devani wrote: »

A car without a clutch pedal is an automatic, no matter what!!

no clutch pedal means it's something my wife can drive (P means parking, D means drive and R means reverse) and she has one of those....

Not entirely true anymore. Ferrari, Lamborghini, and as I understand them so far, the new Corvette have all gone away from a clutch pedal on their manual transmission equipped cars, instead using electronics to activate the clutch, and paddle shifters behind the wheel.

I do get the point though on PFB's baby Porsche. The tiptronic was a horrible attempt as simulating a manual. The Boxter is a great chick's car, but not a very good "chick magnet" car.

billbillw

nooshinjohn wrote: »

Not entirely true anymore. Ferrari, Lamborghini, and as I understand them so far, the new Corvette have all gone away from a clutch pedal on their manual transmission equipped cars, instead using electronics to activate the clutch, and paddle shifters behind the wheel.

More accurately would be to say that Ferrari, Porsche, etc. are no longer offering manual transmissions in many of their cars. No clutch pedal means it is NOT a manual transmission. A manual transmission has a clutch pedal and a gear selector that must be moved for each shift. Paddle shifters on the steering wheel do not make a manual transmission. You are just selecting gears on the automatic trans. Whether it uses dual automated clutches, single auto clutch, or a torque converter, it is still an automatic transmission.

nspindel

If Ferrari and Porsche are moving away from clutches, I'm glad I drive a VW. 6-speed manual hardtop convertible. VW nailed it with the EOS.

shawn474

Isn't a boxster a glorified Miata?

ambiophonics

I'd take a manual miata over the auto boxter any day.

mrbigbluelight

Well, until I can be assured that Ferrari and Lamborghini have all the bugs worked out on their electronic clutches, I'm sticking with my Neon.

...... SXT ........

That's right. Be jealous, beeches. Be very jealous.

mhardy6647

shawn474 wrote: »

Isn't a boxster a glorified Miata?

If so, they made a mistake when they installed the engine. Either that, or they put the steering wheel on the wrong end of the Boxster, eh?

tonyb

ambiophonics wrote: »

I'd take a manual miata over the auto boxter any day.

I don't know about that. But both do have that "go-cart" attraction.

Make mine a Honda S2000.

Nightfall

tonyb wrote: »

Make mine a Honda S2000.

Excellent choice

mhardy6647

tonyb wrote: »

I don't know about that. But both do have that "go-cart" attraction.

Make mine a Honda S2000.

One word, Benjamin: Fiero ;-)

tonyb

mhardy6647 wrote: »

One word, Benjamin: Fiero ;-)

Bite your tongue my good man, that car should not be mentioned in the same paragraph as others in this thread....certainly not the Porsche or Honda.

mhardy6647

I keed, I keed

pitdogg2

mhardy6647 wrote: »

One word, Benjamin: Fiero ;-)

you know they did make a fast Fiero....well relative to the others

A good friend of mine had one it came from the factory with the 3.8 supercharged motor. The same motor they put into the Park avenue Ultra. His was scary fast he sold it last year when a gent kindly offered 6000.00 cash we drove home and he signed over the title....

Polkie2009

Fieros were pretty nice looking, but didn't they have a bad habit of overheating???

billbillw

pitdogg2 wrote: »

you know they did make a fast Fiero....well relative to the others

A good friend of mine had one it came from the factory with the 3.8 supercharged motor. The same motor they put into the Park avenue Ultra. His was scary fast he sold it last year when a gent kindly offered 6000.00 cash we drove home and he signed over the title....

I'm pretty sure that there was never a factory built Fiero with the 3.8 supercharged motor. It was/is a popular modification for owners though since GM made so many of the 3.8 supercharged motors. Perhaps your friend had an aftermarket modified one. The fastest factory Fiero only had a 2.8V6, naturally aspirated, running something like 150hp. I actually drooled over the Fiero GT back in high school.

Before you think about arguing, you should check and see that the supercharged Park Avenue Ultra wasn't a GM option until 1991, 3 years after the Fiero stopped production.

nooshinjohn

pitdogg2 wrote: »

you know they did make a fast Fiero....well relative to the others

A good friend of mine had one it came from the factory with the 3.8 supercharged motor. The same motor they put into the Park avenue Ultra. His was scary fast he sold it last year when a gent kindly offered 6000.00 cash we drove home and he signed over the title....

Unless he scored a factory prototype, with the same mill as the Buick GNX, the engine had to have been swapped. The Fiero BTW, was never intended or designed to be anything but a plastic people mover(commuter car)... it was after it was built that the marketing geniuses thought "sports car!" That was an epic fail as it turned what was a fun little go-cart into a joke in the motoring press, and forced Pontiac to actually try and deliver what marketing was promising.

The V6 cars were nothing but problems, creating an undeserved bad reputation for the brand and killed any hope of a second gen car that would have been nothing short of amazing. Think mid-engine v8 TransAm.

pitdogg2

billbillw wrote: »

Before you think about arguing, you should check and see that the supercharged Park Avenue Ultra wasn't a GM optin until 1991, 3 years after the Fiero stopped production.

Nope not going to argue I know that fact as well. The guy that he sold that car to owns Bob Taylor's Classic auto here in town. He actually had two of them he got a LARGE chunk of cash and bought large items he swears that he walked in and ordered them at a dealership and i also questioned him many times about it. Bob Taylor also said they are a rare car that many didn't know was an option. I was under the impression that the 3.8 was actually a de-tuned motor from GM race side of things so how knows maybe it was something that they could work up for they right amount of money. Here's his ad from here in town the red one he sold long ago to BT the yellow one is for sale now he has just ran the snot of it.

Autos and Accessories 10/29/2013
1988 pontiac fiero [6688]

Asking Price: $3,650.00
1988 pontiac fiero, 3.8L Supercharged


sorry can't get the picture to come over:(

nooshinjohn

pitdogg2 wrote: »

Nope not going to argue I know that fact as well. The guy that he sold that car to owns Bob Taylor's Classic auto here in town. He actually had two of them he got a LARGE chunk of cash and bought large items he swears that he walked in and ordered them at a dealership and i also questioned him many times about it. Bob Taylor also said they are a rare car that many didn't know was an option. I was under the impression that the 3.8 was actually a de-tuned motor from GM race side of things so how knows maybe it was something that they could work up for they right amount of money. Here's his ad from here in town the red one he sold long ago to BT the yellow one is for sale now he has just ran the snot of it.

Autos and Accessories 10/29/2013
1988 pontiac fiero [6688]









Asking Price: $3,650.00
1988 pontiac fiero, 3.8L Supercharged


sorry can't get the picture to come over:(

His selling price is further proof that he's lying out his teeth. A car THAT rare, built by the factory, would have been a custom built that would command 10 times that money easily.

pitdogg2

car does not run...

for the record John and Bill still not arguing as I do believe both of you. I've known him for 15yrs and just take him at his word but very skeptical none the less.

Last year this guy bought a Jeep with cash to take to the Badlands to trash for a weekend.
You know the badlands right John? I do not but know it is in Indiana somewhere.
His Grandfather had a ton of farmland that he sold here and put in a trust that he got when he turned 18 then again when he turned 21 and the rest last year when he turned 25....he has stupid money.....

anyway my .02 carry on.

billbillw

There just wasn't a supercharged 3800 until ~1991. Anything GM Racing had in the late 1980's would have been a turbocharged version of the motor like in the Buick Grand National.

Is this the listing you are referring to?
http://bn.craigslist.org/cto/4157459770.html

If so, it doesn't really prove anything or say it is a super rare factory edition. It looks like a base model Fiero. If it has a 3.8, it was stuffed in aftermarket. If your old friend says anything different, I would say he has a case of pseudologia fantastica.

nooshinjohn

Maybe the "factory" that built it was a conversion company specializing in them called Sinister Performance, out of Indiana..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1988-Pontiac-Fiero-GT-3800-Supercharged-/231047298404?forcerrptr=true&item=231047298404&nma=true&si=bZNuZkrIruGDWvJBMSjrxhhQ4h4%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Not a bad job, in fact it looks like something the General could have done, but still decidedly not "factory". Given the fact that the car does not run, would have no bearing on the price being far too low for a one of a kind, GM built, factory hotrod. If it were built by Sinister, or in somebody's garage on the weekends, the price being asked is still too high IMHO.