Madisound Packing (MR Clarity Caps)

Toolfan66
Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
edited May 2013 in Vintage Speakers
I received my MR Clarity Capacitors today, I was excited, till I opened the box to check them out, I can not believe the way they just put them together, so they could bang around, and crack, and break the blue plastic, "YES" I have pieces of blue plastic in the box. Considering what one pays for these, and waiting for them to get them in stock, "YOU" would think the packing job would be "TOP NOTCH"

And when I call them Monday, I'm sure they will replace the broken ones, but the sad thing is, they are out of stock on the MR 12's, and I'm back to waiting again..

:mad:

I am very disappointed to say the least..

I will post pics later..
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited April 2013
    I hate it when it happens like that.
    Simple tape would attach them on the box and prevent any movement even if they cheap out on proper packaging.
    Hopefully, they'll learn next time.

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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,287
    edited April 2013
    I would be double GRRRRRRR

    Take some pics and go ahead send in your email so they have a reference...feel your pain I hate waiting on a bonehead screw up.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2013
    The MR used to ship in it's own box from CC with fancy purple packing paper...
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  • DarqueKnight
    DarqueKnight Posts: 6,765
    edited April 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I am very disappointed to say the least..

    Sorry about your troubles. I would have expected better from an audiophile-oriented company like Madisound.

    Are you building an external crossover? I know you are not going back to the days of stacking capacitors. Those MR's are 2x to 3x the size of Sonicaps.
    Face wrote: »
    The MR used to ship in it's own box from CC with fancy purple packing paper...

    The folks at Madisound probably keep those fancy boxes for personal holiday gift use.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited April 2013
    Face wrote: »
    The MR used to ship in it's own box from CC with fancy purple packing paper...

    Well they should go back to it, even the leads on the MR 12's are bent all up. The MR 27's, and MR 6.8's look good, only the MR 12's have issues, and, they are the ones I have been waiting for. They could have at least wrapped each capacitor in bubble wrap, "BUT" why do that? Just throw them together around some brown paper, and call it a day..
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited April 2013
    sorry about your troubles. I would have expected better from an audiophile-oriented company like madisound.

    Are you building an external crossover? I know you are not going back to the days of stacking capacitors. Those mr's are 2x to 3x the size of sonicaps.

    Yes, i'm going for the external crossovers. I'm going to use a piece of delrin, and build them point to point, no crossover board.

    I did expect better from them, for an order this size, i just don't get it..



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    The folks at madisound probably keep those fancy boxes for personal holiday gift use.[/quote]

    lol!!
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited April 2013
    Here is one pic, the others didn't come out well.

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  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,266
    edited April 2013
    That is totally unacceptable at any price. It's a shame that they don't take more pride in packing items for shipment.
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  • audiomagnate
    audiomagnate Posts: 48
    edited April 2013
    I ordered a bunch of crossover parts from Madisound and they arrived loose in a box like that. No damage, but I guess that's standard procedure.
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited April 2013
    I've never had an issue like that from Madisound...and I've purchased quite a few MRs from them. Maybe there's a new guy in shipping who shouldn't be there.
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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited April 2013
    Yea they got someone working there that doesn't need a job.
    It only takes a minute to get some newspaper and wad it up for padding.
    Try and get the pictures to them today so that they will see them first thing Monday morning.

    Face wrote: »
    I've never had an issue like that from Madisound...and I've purchased quite a few MRs from them. Maybe there's a new guy in shipping who shouldn't be there.
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  • westmassguy
    westmassguy Posts: 6,850
    edited April 2013
    I ordered a bunch of crossover parts from Madisound and they arrived loose in a box like that. No damage, but I guess that's standard procedure.
    Same here, their packing is always loose, or slipshod. I just received a delivery which included two 100uf PX caps, that are the size of grapefruits. Luckily they were unscathed. I would be fuming if those were my MRs.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited April 2013
    I'm more upset knowing they are out of stock, and replacements can take weeks/months. I waited weeks for these. Emails are already sent, I even emailed Clarity about my issue.
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited April 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    I'm more upset knowing they are out of stock, and replacements can take weeks/months. I waited weeks for these. Emails are already sent, I even emailed Clarity about my issue.

    Good on you! You may get a better response by involving Clarity. For the price of the MR's it's completely rediculous that they can't pack them better.
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,081
    edited April 2013
    Improper training in the shipping dept. Slackers.
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited April 2013
    Sorry for your cap woes Larry. Madisound better take car of this for you. Sorry you have to wait for the new 12uF caps. Interested in hearing your thoughts when you complete this project.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited April 2013
    Email from Clarity..
    Larry, I am sorry for the problem you've had and the inconvenience it has caused. I'll take a look at this as soon as I get to the office Monday.
    We'll work with Madisound and do what we can to get it sorted out quickly.

    Regards,

    David Thomson
    General Manager
  • satguy08
    satguy08 Posts: 26
    edited April 2013
    For the money spent, go figure? I guess it is true, never enough time to do it right the first time, but always enough time to do it a second time.
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited May 2013
    Larry, I am sorry for the problem you've had and the inconvenience it has caused. I'll take a look at this as soon as I get to the office Monday.
    We'll work with Madisound and do what we can to get it sorted out quickly.

    Regards,

    David Thomson
    General Manager


    Nice response - hope they follow through.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,101
    edited May 2013
    Yes, it's damaged, and Yes, you should not have to accept damaged items due to poor packaging or rough handling.

    That said...there's no electrolyte to leak out. Install the thing, and listen in comfort and bliss until the new, properly-packaged, undamaged cap(s) show up. At that time, you pop the damaged cap(s) back out, and solder the un-damaged ones in. But in the meantime, you're listening to your equipment instead of "waiting".

    I bet there is not one bit of FUNCTIONAL damage; at least in the short-term.
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited May 2013
    Clarity is making me new caps, I'm told they will ship on Friday..
  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited May 2013
    Wow! Good customer service on Clarity's part.
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    Taken from a recent Audioholics reply regarding "Club Polk" and Polk speakers:
    "I'm yet to hear a Polk speaker that merits more than a sentence and 60 seconds discussion." :\
    My response is: If you need 60 seconds to respond in one sentence, you probably should't be evaluating Polk speakers.....


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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited May 2013
    I am about to receive bunch of caps and resistors from Madisound tomorrow.
    Will update on packing

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  • PolkieMan
    PolkieMan Posts: 2,446
    edited May 2013
    Hopefully they got a new capper packer:cheesygrin:
    Mystery wrote: »
    I am about to receive bunch of caps and resistors from Madisound tomorrow.
    Will update on packing
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    PIONEER PL-510A SONY BDP S5100
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited May 2013
    headrott wrote: »
    Wow! Good customer service on Clarity's part.

    +1 Sounds like they're gonna take good care of you. Mistakes happen but it's how they're handled that tells you how good the company is.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited May 2013
    Received an email from David this morning, My MR12's have shipped, and the two MR6.8's will ship in 6-7 days..

    Customer service is top notch with these guys!!!
  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited May 2013
    This is great to hear. It certainly makes me feel better abut doing business with Madisound in the future.

    I'm glad they took care of you. I hate to do business with outfits that create a problem and then try to make it your problem. These guys accepted responsibility and remedied the issue quickly.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited May 2013
    This is great to hear. It certainly makes me feel better abut doing business with Madisound in the future.

    I'm glad they took care of you. I hate to do business with outfits that create a problem and then try to make it your problem. These guys accepted responsibility and remedied the issue quickly.

    Not so sure Madisound came through, but Clarity sure did. The David TF refers to in his post above is the GM of Clarity.
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  • Mystery
    Mystery Posts: 2,546
    edited May 2013
    Toolfan66 wrote: »
    Received an email from David this morning, My MR12's have shipped, and the two MR6.8's will ship in 6-7 days..
    Customer service is top notch with these guys!!!

    Confusing...
    So who's shipping the caps?
    Did Clarity send caps to Madisound or they shipped directly after verifying purchase from Madisound?
    I mean is Madisound in the loop or no at this time? :confused:

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  • Moose68Bash
    Moose68Bash Posts: 3,843
    edited May 2013
    I'm sorry. I may have jumped the gun on this matter.

    In any case, it is great to know that somebody -- whether Clarity or Madisound remains to be seen -- has come through. :confused:
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