New rules

usp1

I find it amusing that this forum has decided that people like me cannot view for sale ads if we do not have 100 posts.

This is the silliest thing I have seen. Drive away potential customers! All this will do is drive away sellers who can get better prices elsewhere.

BlueFox

usp1 wrote: »

I find it amusing that this forum has decided that people like me cannot view for sale ads if we do not have 100 posts.

This is the silliest thing I have seen. Drive away potential customers! All this will do is drive away sellers who can get better prices elsewhere.

Well, to bad, bucko. If you want to complain about something then complain about cable threads being closed. :biggrin:

daboyz

Unfortunately I believe that's the way it's setup. It's there to keep the "drop in and sell" people away from here. Our Flea Market is a privilege, not something like Ebay. I'd say join the fray. Chat with us so that we know ya and you can consider this place differently. Not as a place to buy and sell audio gear but just a cool place to be.

PSOVLSK

http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?136075-I-just-realized

Post #27. Sounds like it will get worked out.

Systems

Kinda on the fence about this one.
Not really sure.
I would think if you ever wanted to grow a forum, this would not be the best idea.
My thoughts are, you can't sell unless you have 100 posts anyway.
Now you have to have 100 posts to even see the ad?

I feel sorry for Maxima!
A straight up excellent Polkie (Since 2001!!!!!!!!), and now he is not allowed to shop here?

Sorry Eric!

hochpt21

I hope people really get involved...not just post meaninglessly to get to 100. I feel like the quality here is very good, and wouldn't want it to get watered down with fillers trying to get to the for sale section.

usp1

Many of us come here to read and learn and occasionally shop. It makes no sense to keep posting meaningless stuff just to get to 100 posts. If there are particular individuals who are abusing the forum then they can be banned. This rule will not deter a determined abuser who will simply post random nonsense to get to 100 posts.

daboyz

Yes, but the random idiot will be noticed and will be treated as such. What are you looking for?

schwarcw

Steve Hoffman Forum has the same feature.

At Audiokarma, you have to pay $25 to see the Marketplace.

Stick around, get involved and don't worry about it. If you really want to be part of this Forum you should really want to keep the trolls out.

BlueFox

usp1 wrote: »

Many of us come here to read and learn and occasionally shop. It makes no sense to keep posting meaningless stuff just to get to 100 posts. If there are particular individuals who are abusing the forum then they can be banned. This rule will not deter a determined abuser who will simply post random nonsense to get to 100 posts.

That already occurs. All of a sudden you will start to see somebody posting a trivial, meaningless reply to every post they can find. All just to sell something. Of course, the "What Are You Listening To" thread already exists to run up your post count. :biggrin:

hochpt21

BlueFox wrote: »

That already occurs. All of a sudden you will start to see somebody posting a trivial, meaningless reply to every post they can find. All just to sell something. Of course, the "What Are You Listening To" thread already exists to run up your post count. :biggrin:

I agree with you on the first part, and I already know your feeling on the second part. Maybe they can remove post count on that thread. At least it's not bitching about cable fables or amps underpowering speakers :eek:

Seems like your the only one bitching about that thread...not sure where the harm is.

usp1

Last post about this...I promise. I am not looking for anything in particular. Reading the for sale ads is actually often very educational. I heard about Dodd, Odyssey, Legacy and many other small but outstanding brands from for sale posts. I purchased a couple of things on here as well...could not sell here because of the post count limit. I did not mind that as selling should be a privilege. Buying on the other hand should be encouraged since it helps frequent posters who are trying to sell. Occasionally I have seen really good deals where the poster is only willing to sell to someone with a minimum post count, which is the seller's prerogative. But limiting buyers can only drive down prices for the sellers. Sort of cutting your nose to spite your face.

Systems

I would think with over 100k members and rarely over 25 active members online at a time, kicking both
new and old members to the curb with this new rule would not help this forum much.

As far as the cable threads, funny how you have to go to all the "other sights" for intelligent conversation on
that subject.
They ALL have them, and they can get heated at times, but there are so many threads, you can't troll or comment on all of the threads.

Moose68Bash

I understand the varying points of view that have been expressed about access to the "For Sale" section of the forum. But I do not consider myself as somebody "trolling" to sell or buy stuff, and I have found the extensive reading I have done on the forum extremely helpful to me as a long-time Polk Audio owner (SDA 1Cs since 1989) and a recent purchaser of SDA SRS 1.2s. I began the process of modifying both sets of SDAs because of what I learned by reading various threads on this forum, and I could not have begun the modifications without this forum. In the midst of purchasing tweeter brackets and driver rings and trying to purchase a case for a Dreadnought, today I was cut off from access to the threads involving the sale of these items. I do not pretend to have the knowledge to make the kinds of contributions to the forum that others who have great knowledge and skill make, but it seems unreasonable to me not to let less technically knowledgeable people like me, who nevertheless have a strong interest in learning and in improving their "Polk experiences," have access to buying, for example, Larry's rings. I can understand restrictions against selling, but restrictions against access to buying makes no sense. And I shall not succumb to the temptation to post drivel just to reach the 100-posts mark.

Systems

Innocent until proven guilty.
What ever happened to that?

Thorton

I agree with usp1's views. Can we get a change on the "for sale" viewing? I haven't purchased or sold anything on club polk but do find these threads informative and at some time would like to purchase something without having to post 100 threads for the sake of posting.
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Toolfan66

2009 and your crying about 100 post count for the flea market? If you lurk here often and read the threads then you should understand. But being a member for almost four years is not that hard to reach 100 if your an active lurker..


It will all get worked out fellas and gals just chill for a little while, have a drink and listen to some tunes..

Nhpm510

Membership & active contribution do have their privileges.

Systems

Side note:

Moose, I love your system, BIG FAN of the Perreaux components!
EXTREMELY underated, under-reviewed!
Nice kit there my friend!

daboyz

I think that here that we want a trust between buyer and seller. You've been here and there's no woory in the process. You will get what you bought in exactly the way it was posted. There's a worry issue with Ebay. Here you know.

Systems

Toolfan66 wrote: »

2009 and your crying about 100 post count for the flea market? If you lurk here often and read the threads then you should understand. But being a member for almost four years is not that hard to reach 100 if your an active lurker..


It will all get worked out fellas and gals just chill for a little while, have a drink and listen to some tunes..

Hmmmmm......
Larry, you two joined the same year.
Anyway to explain the 9k difference in posts?
From what I gather, more water will flow from the LARGER opening!

Bwahahaha!
Just ribbing ya!
I am in the same boat:)!

Systems

100.2 = its the newest race in audio, not only to see the ad, but to sell!

BlueFox

pepster wrote: »

100.2 = its the newest race in audio, not only to see the ad, but to sell!

Are you sure? I thought 100.2 was this years surround sound model. :eek:

Moose68Bash

pepster wrote: »

Side note:

Moose, I love your system, BIG FAN of the Perreaux components!
EXTREMELY underated, under-reviewed!
Nice kit there my friend!

Pepster, thank you. I got into Perreaux and Polk at the same time, and I've never looked back! Cheers.

gce

Oh WOW :eek: just saw this...must post more! :razz:

dracoskeeper

Oh WOW just saw this...must post more!

hochpt21

hochpt21 wrote: »

I agree with you on the first part, and I already know your feeling on the second part. Maybe they can remove post count on that thread. At least it's not bitching about cable fables or amps underpowering speakers :eek:

Seems like your the only one bitching about that thread...not sure where the harm is.

Sorry BlueFox, that was probably a little harsh.

steveinaz

If you understand the original intent of the Flea Market, it will make perfect sense. It was meant as a small community selling place, to pass on very good deals to one another; not meant as a mini-ebay, where profit is the main focus. Sometime back, the FM started to get abused by fly-by-night sellers, looking only for a profit and hocking their gear. They had no interest in the Polk community, and as soon as they hocked their wares---they disappeared. That's when the minimum post rules came into effect.

Make sense now?

Think of it like a "members only" flea market. That's why people typically ask less for gear here, than they do on Ebay or audiogon---which is where the phrase "polkie price" came from. It's like giving your close friends first crack at a sale, before you go public.

wattmeworry

Some of you keep referring to the 100 post count to sell when the O.P. is talking about just seeing the ad to read.

gce

Makes perfect sense steve and that's the way it should be. Boy, I've got a lot of good deals for you guys but I just can't post in the FM! :razz:

soundfreak1

I jave purched sevetal items here and got really good prices and also paid more here than i could have gotten on CL. Never have i been disappointed!! I would rather buy here due to the confidance i have in the seller exp. with the equip
as apposed to buying from a flipper on ebay or CL who knows nothing about what he is selling as far as condition and working condition. To buy something from someone that has not used it for months or years is crazy as that person cant honstely state its condition as he has not had enough exp. with the item to really know ( speaking mostly of vintage equip.). I value being able to have access to purchace here. It is a privledge in my opinion.there are flippers here too but you can research them easily and know whom you are dealing with (also a great value).i think the 100 post to sell is a good thing too protect the rep. of the site.too buy ?? However this is a club!!! Not CL or ebay.i dont think too many people are making a living selling here nor is this the clubs purpose!!! All in all i feel this CLUB has been a great source of knowledge for me and i dont mind having to contribute (even with my limited knowledge compaired to others here) to enjoy the benifits.