what would you buy

glemay
glemay Posts: 574
edited October 2003 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
what would you buy if you were in canada?

-SVS 20-39PCi
-SVS PB1 ISD
-Paradigm PDR 12
-Paradigm PS-1200
-Paradigm PW-2200
-Paradigm PS-1000
-Paradigm PW-2100
-Velodyne CHT-12

I want the sub that will perform the best with music and ht

I have a room that is 20 feet by 13 feet with a 7 foot ceiling.
My system consist of:

Mains: RTi70
Center: Paradigm CC-170
Surrounds: Paradigm Micro
Receiver: Denon AVR-1803
DVD Player: Toshiba SD-2900

thanks
Main System:
Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

Second System:
Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited October 2003
    None of the above.

    I'd go the passive SVS route with a separate amp.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    SEVEN foot ceiling? Did I read that right?
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited October 2003
    a SEVEN foot ceiling? Jeeze, I'd be claustrophobic.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    russman

    you read it right, 7 foot ceiling. I got my system in my bedroom which is on the third floor which is like an attic with the sloped ceilings. go to the system showcase and look at glemay, you will see what I mean.
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    troy d,

    it's not bad, seeing as am only 15 and 5 foot 9 inches. I banged my head a few times:rolleyes:
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    I would pick the SVS PB-ISD, but I think all the choices are very nice.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    dorokusai,

    why would you say i live in a hobbit house?:confused:
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    That was before I noticed the attic comment, sorry. The short ceiling height is what I was originally refrring to, I was only kidding. :D
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    dorokusai,

    what kind of sub do you have? What do you think of SVS cylinders?
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited October 2003
    doro and his sub, "don't count" Next question......... Oh that was cold.. sorry doro ol bud! :D
    Kidding, he can help with most any other questions you may have though... :D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    is there a huge diffrence in performance between the PCi 20-39 and the PCi Plus 20-39?
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • jkratzer
    jkratzer Posts: 148
    edited October 2003
    Where's the HSU VTF-2? :(
    My 7.1 setup consists of:
    Denon 3803
    Panasonic DVD
    RTi70s front
    CSi40 front center
    RTi28s side surround
    FXi30s back surround
    PSW202 Subwoofer - Hey, it's my first sub!
    RCA 46" 4:3 RPTV
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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by glemay
    is there a huge diffrence in performance between the PCi 20-39 and the PCi Plus 20-39?

    glemay,

    I'm going to quote Doc from an early post I had which addressed the same question, and was enough for me to get the 20-39 PC+. From Doc...

    ========================
    The 20-39PC+ has about a 5-6 dB performance advantage below 30 Hz over the 20-39PCi. It also has somewhat less distortion, but both are remarkably low anyway.

    You also get:

    - the triple flared ports and port plugs for variable tuning (20, 16, 12), although the stock tune works the best

    - 0-180 continuously variable phase control

    - 4 position (25, 20, 16, 12) SS filter

    - 525 watt BASH amp

    The PC+ advantage will probably be most noticeable in a larger room. If you have never bottomed out the PCi and you play it as loud as you want, then I don't see the need.

    From a FR and extension standpoint, they will measure almost identically in stock tune. The PC+ can be tuned deeper but it's not muh of a benefit since in stock tune its flat to about 18 Hz in room. I always ran mine in stock tune unless I was **** around running sweeps or experimenting, etc.
    ========================
    Mains: polkaudio RTi70's (bi-wired)
    Center: polkaudio CSi40 (bi-wired)
    Surrounds: polkaudio FXi30's
    Rear Center: polkaudio CSi30
    Sub: SVS 20-39 PC+
    Receiver: ONKYO TX-SR600
    Display: JVC HD-56G786
    DVD Player: SONY DVP-CX985V
    DVD Player: OPPO DV-981HD 1080p High Definition Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI
    Remote: Logitech Harmony H688
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    kberg,

    Thanks for the information. I e-mailed SVS to see what they would recommend.

    Jerry
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    By the way Kberg,

    How big is your room and how do you like the sub?

    Jerry
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by glemay
    what would you buy if you were in canada?

    -SVS 20-39PCi
    -SVS PB1 ISD
    -Paradigm PDR 12
    -Paradigm PS-1200
    -Paradigm PW-2200
    -Paradigm PS-1000
    -Paradigm PW-2100
    -Velodyne CHT-12

    I want the sub that will perform the best with music and ht

    I have a room that is 20 feet by 13 feet with a 7 foot ceiling.
    My system consist of:

    Mains: RTi70
    Center: Paradigm CC-170
    Surrounds: Paradigm Micro
    Receiver: Denon AVR-1803
    DVD Player: Toshiba SD-2900

    thanks

    glemay, what the ? of what would I buy if in Canada? I'd buy those ones that I liked even if in the US or Mexico. ;)

    BTW i'm very happy with my SVS 20-39PCi. I haven't heard the other ones before. SVS mates well with Polk fronts.
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by glemay
    dorokusai,

    why would you say i live in a hobbit house?:confused:

    FYI i do indeed live in a hobbit house. Alll my ceilings in the upstairs of my house are all 7' high. luckily i'm only 3'4" tall. :eek:

    seriously, it's an unusual house. the first floor all have 8 ft ceilings, but not the second.
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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  • Ceruleance
    Ceruleance Posts: 991
    edited October 2003
    glemay, for 15 here's the deal, you are probably going to take this sub to college, and so the tube just makes more sense because its easier to carry and lighter than the box. Having people help you move your stereo stuff is usually annoying.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited October 2003
    that's true. the only part of my system I would let any of my family or friends move for me would be the cables and wires. otherwise keep your paws off my electonics. sorry i'm so anal about this. but i spent to much (hard earned) money on components to let someone drop my DAC or receiver. ugh... shudder the thought.
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited October 2003
    Faster - I'll get you! Damn, you busted on my lil' 202....wait till I let him know about that :D

    Glemay - I just have the cheapy. I have squared away other parts of my HT first...the sub will be the very last item. SVS really has a large following, and is known in the audio community as a Giant killer.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    I've been talking to Tom at SVS and he suggested the PB2 PLUS. The sad thing is I can't afford it, so I asked him to look for an alternative route.
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2003
    damn the pb2 plus?

    im 16 and my room is 15x12xlike 7 1/2 ( its not quite 8 ft) and im gonna get the svs 20 -39 pci. i think being that i just turned 16 and want a car, $550 is the most i really want to spend on a subwoofer. your room is just alittle bit bigger then mine though lol. oh well, i think that you will be happy with any svs you get.
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  • kberg
    kberg Posts: 974
    edited October 2003
    Originally posted by glemay
    By the way Kberg,

    How big is your room and how do you like the sub?

    Jerry

    20' x 14.5' x 8.5' - and the SVS is incredible, to say the least.
    Mains: polkaudio RTi70's (bi-wired)
    Center: polkaudio CSi40 (bi-wired)
    Surrounds: polkaudio FXi30's
    Rear Center: polkaudio CSi30
    Sub: SVS 20-39 PC+
    Receiver: ONKYO TX-SR600
    Display: JVC HD-56G786
    DVD Player: SONY DVP-CX985V
    DVD Player: OPPO DV-981HD 1080p High Definition Up-Converting Universal DVD Player with HDMI
    Remote: Logitech Harmony H688
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    airplay

    I am pretty well in the same situation as you. I dont really want to spend more than 1000 dollars canadian on a sub. I will probably get the PCi 20-39 or the PC plus 20-39 or somewhere in that price range.
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    kberg how loud do you listen to your music/dvd? does the PC plus 20-39 keep up without a problem?
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2003
    u could always buy a polk sub :p
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    airplay

    I already have a polk PSW202 hooked up to my computer. I have a Sound Dynamics THS-3000 hook up to my ht system, but I don't like it.
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited October 2003
    unlesss you have a really large open and airy room... I would think the 20-39PCi or PCi Plus would work pretty good for most people... as long as you're in the market for a cylinder sub. So far i don't think i've run into anyone that has hated their SVS sub, whether it was the box or cylinder sub. ;)
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
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  • Airplay355
    Airplay355 Posts: 4,298
    edited October 2003
    i was joking about the polk sub...thats what the :p was there for. you sound very serious for being 15. just get the svs 20-39 pci or the plus, you wont be disappointed, and if you are doc will probably pay the shipping cost to send it back. ( as long as its under $35)
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  • glemay
    glemay Posts: 574
    edited October 2003
    Airplay,

    Ya I'm pretty serious about this audio thing. I really enjoy excellent sound in music and movies. The only people that don't really care for it are my parents and my 3 sisters, oh well:D. I will probably end up with a PCi 20-39 or something around there. Just hope my parents will let me buy it. When will you be getting your Airplay? Let me know what you think!

    Jerry
    Main System:
    Denon AVR-2805, Polk Audio RTi70's, Polk Audio CSi40, Polk Audio FXi50, Paradigm PW-2200 v.2, Toshiba 42XV545U HDTV

    Second System:
    Denon AVR-1705, Polk Audio R40, Polk Audio CS245i, Polk Audio R15, Paradigm PS-1200a
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,647
    edited October 2003
    Same boat as you dude. 14 years old. similar rig.

    I just don't have the full surround sound (YET).

    I have the RTi70 with the RT35i stacked on top of it for mains.

    I to plan to purchase the 20-39 PCi around Christmas time. Bring on the rumble!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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