Will Polk RTI A7 Floor Standers output good sound when paired with Denon 1611 5.1 AVR

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  • Turbo6TA
    Turbo6TA Posts: 42
    edited April 2012
    vprasad84 wrote: »

    Hi All,

    I am planning to buy the polk rti a7 floor standers next month & i am more confused if my current denon 1611 avr which supports 75 watts per channel @ 8ohms & 110 watter per channel @ 6 ohms would able to drive the rti a7.

    My room size is 11x11 & wish to seek advice if it would fill the sound pretty. Currently i have Polk RM 6750 satellites & planning to replace the fronts. Please provide your suggestion

    I am now concerned I may also have a problem running a set of Polk RTi A7 floor standers and a set of RTi A3 rears with the amp I am considering purchasing as soon as Onkyo makes it available in another month or two. (This will be used for 2-channel music only)

    Any Opinions? . . . Will I need more power?

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    Digital Analog Converters:............2 (Separate Lft & Rt Channel Wolfson? 192 kHz / 24-Bit)
    Digital Audio Inputs:....................1 Optical, 2 Coaxial
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    you will need to pay full retail on that one... any reason why you want this particular one?
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • Turbo6TA
    Turbo6TA Posts: 42
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli ...

    I have another system in the Philippines using 4 Mission (UK) speakers powered by an Onkyo A-9555 integrated amp. I am real happy with the Onkyo A-9555 sound and power (100 watts RMS @ 8 ohms). However, the A-9555 has now been discontinued, so buying another one new is out of the question.

    Looks to me that the new Onkyo A-9070 is going to be it's replacement, so that's why I am waiting to buy one when they are available. The only thing I don't like about the new A-9070 is the price. The old A-9555 did not cost $1,300. That's the list price on the new A-9070 as per the Onkyo USA website ... but I am willing to bet that the "street price" will be lower?

    Just looking at the specs of the new A-9070, it sure seems alot better than the A-9555 that I was so happy with before. Jeeeze, even the weight alone ... 29 Lbs for the 9500 vs 40 Lbs for the A-9070.
  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • Turbo6TA
    Turbo6TA Posts: 42
    edited April 2012
    That Marantz MM7025 2 Channel Power Amplifier you linked to looks really nice (and I considered it before), but since it's a power amp and not an integrated amp, I would still need to buy a preamp in order to use it.

    That's why I looked elswhere.
  • vprasad84
    vprasad84 Posts: 17
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    I just purchased an SR5006 and I have A7s. I am biamping them, and they sound so much better than my old pio. A lot better depth.

    If you have little satelites on the back and use 5.1 and biamp, you will feed between 150 and 200W per channel to the A7s, which is pretty good even for external amp. At least on paper you will, not sure it will be as good as a high current amp.

    hi,

    i want to use it 7.1 with front heights (as i have free 2 polk rm 6750 satellites so would put them up)

    Definitely i am looking to biamp the rti a7 speakers. marantz 5006 has 9 speakers terminals if i am not wrong? 4 are for fronts (Front A + Front B for biamping) & rest for center, surround L + R, Surround back L + R / Front heights

    Lets say if i biamp my front speakers & the surrond back l/r terminals are connected to front height speakers, then do i have the chance to switch between biamping+front heights i mean switch between 5.1 & 7.1 or if i have to switch to 7.1 i.e front heights, then first i need to remove the biamp cables from the speaker?
  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,685
    edited April 2012
    Don't bother with the "biamp". It will not double the power to your speakers. If you really want to open them up, buy a 2ch amp and power the A7's with the amp.
  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    As long as you have not reached the total power output of the receiver bi-amping DOES double the power to your speakers.

    And with respect to flipping between biamp and 7.1, the receiver allows it without pulling out cables, but your speakers don't. You will need to put the jumper back on because only one pair of terminals will be getting power after the switch to 7.1.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,477
    edited April 2012
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    Don't bother with the "biamp". It will not double the power to your speakers. If you really want to open them up, buy a 2ch amp and power the A7's with the amp.

    +1. If you want to send more power to your speakers, actual bi-amping with two separate amps is the way to achieve that. Bi-amping from two sets of terminals on your AVR only separates power sent to the speaker.

    This has been covered in many threads before.

    An AVR's power is rated at 2ch driven. When you add more channels, each channel now gets a lower power rating (check bench tests for any AVR). An AVR cannot double it's power by simply doubling up the channels sent to one speaker. If that were the case, no one would ever need an external amp.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    Yes, I have heard people say biamping doesn't work, but it's simply not true. No manufacturer will spend money implementing a feature that doesn't work, it just makes no sense.

    It is true that most receivers report power per channel when only two channels are driven, but not all, I have seen some that report 'all channels driven'. Whether that is true or misadvertisement is a whole different subject.

    Biamping will always result in significantly higher power output than simply two channels. Even if the vendor is misadvertising a avr as 7 x 100 but in reality can provide 7 x 80, you will still get 160 with biampin vs 80 (or perhaps 100) with only front channel power. I am not going to get into another fight about something so simple. Get a power meter, biamp and turn it all the way up. Then remove power meter and turn it all the way up again. Huge difference.

    Also I asked Marantz before buying my SR5006 this exact question. See their response. That is copy and paste, but feel free to contact them (or someone else) yourself.

    Rumors are sold for facts way too often

    Subject
    SR5006 biamping


    Discussion Thread From Submitted Question
    Response Via Email(NJ Customer Service & Support) - 04/16/2012 10:05 AM
    Hi #####,

    You are sending full range to each set of terminals on your speaker so you are getting 100 to the high end and 100 to the low end.

    Thank you,

    Technical Support
    D&M Holdings NA

    Question Reference #120411-000212
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,477
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    It is true that most receivers report power per channel when only two channels are driven, but not all, I have seen some that report 'all channels driven'. Whether that is true or misadvertisement is a whole different subject.

    Biamping will always result in significantly higher power output than simply two channels. Even if the vendor is misadvertising a avr as 7 x 100 but in reality can provide 7 x 80, you will still get 160 with biampin vs 80 (or perhaps 100) with only front channel power. I am not going to get into another fight about something so simple. Get a power meter, biamp and turn it all the way up. Then remove power meter and turn it all the way up again. Huge difference.

    Also I asked Marantz before buying my SR5006 this exact question. See their response. That is copy and paste, but feel free to contact them (or someone else) yourself.

    All AVR companies put in parentheses, power claimed is with 2ch driven. Even the Marantz sr5006, while a very nice AVR, states on their web site in parentheses, 100watts with 2ch driven.

    What you've most likely seen regarding all channels driven is solid state or vacuum tube amplifiers. NO AVR's have all channels driven max wattage, you'll have to prove this one Ravy.

    Asking a dealer rep doesn't mean squat, too many customer service reps don't know a hole in the ground much less their own product.

    And you can stop sending me your aggravated PM's threatening to meet me face to face and calling me third grade children's names, or telling me how much higher your IQ is than mine, when you state things like "double power" from bi-amping off of an AVR, or "M40 to an M70 is a lateral move", I just laugh and think "man, I'm just glad I don't have you for a neighbor".

    So go ahead, say something else clever, I've got you on my ignore list now, there's only one, I guess it had to be you. Ciao
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    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

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  • Upstatemax
    Upstatemax Posts: 2,685
    edited April 2012
    Lol, this guy is one of the best Internet clowns I've seen in a long time.
  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    just measure the max power output yourself you fool, you don't have to believe me or Marantz. A power meter costs 19 bucks - well worth your education.
    And after I predicted you going that direction i wrote
    'Even if the vendor is misadvertising a avr as 7 x 100 but in reality can provide 7 x 80, you will still get 160 with biampin vs 80 (or perhaps 100) with only front channel power.'
    but it didn't matter to you and go and attack the wrong issue perhaps realizing that you are on the losing side of the argument once again.
    The truth is that regardless of actual power of the front two channels, REGARDLESS of what the vendor is advertising and it actually is, adding the rear two channels will yield higher power output than the two channels alone, and that is something that anyone can independently verify and it's pathetic to claim otherwise.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • hertz9753
    hertz9753 Posts: 310
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    just measure the max power output yourself you fool, you don't have to believe me or Marantz. A power meter costs 19 bucks - well worth your education.
    And after I predicted you going that direction i wrote
    'Even if the vendor is misadvertising a avr as 7 x 100 but in reality can provide 7 x 80, you will still get 160 with biampin vs 80 (or perhaps 100) with only front channel power.'
    but it didn't matter to you and go and attack the wrong issue perhaps realizing that you are on the losing side of the argument once again.
    The truth is that regardless of actual power of the front two channels, REGARDLESS of what the vendor is advertising and it actually is, adding the rear two channels will yield higher power output than the two channels alone, and that is something that anyone can independently verify and it's pathetic to claim otherwise.

    How many watts per channel are you pushing using only two channels?
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,477
    edited April 2012
    Upstatemax wrote: »
    Lol, this guy is one of the best Internet clowns I've seen in a long time.

    This one's the best yet that I've seen, what's so funny is that he actually believes the stuff he claims and calls everyone else wrong. I can't see the dribble anymore thanks to the ignore button. I just hope the newbs don't take anything he says seriously, they'll find out soon enough.
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    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    Geoff4rfc wrote: »
    This one's the best yet that I've seen, what's so funny is that he actually believes the stuff he claims and calls everyone else wrong. I can't see the dribble anymore thanks to the ignore button. I just hope the newbs don't take anything he says seriously, they'll find out soon enough.

    My SR5006 consumes 500 to 510 Watts on biamp setting, driving only my A7s in 2.0 on max volume.

    Do you have a brain or are you in complete denial? Sounds to me that Marantz's claim is rather honest and I tilt my hat to them.

    With normal power efficiency it appears that the amp is pushing 200W per channel in biamp mode indeed.

    I have a power meter, Marantz SR5006, and 2 x A7 speakers and anyone can verify my results himself, NO NEED TO TRUST ANYONE, JUST DO IT YOURSELF.

    This place is so unfair. No matter what facts i point I am always wrong.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • vprasad84
    vprasad84 Posts: 17
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    My SR5006 consumes 500 to 510 Watts on biamp setting, driving only my A7s in 2.0 on max volume.

    Do you have a brain or are you in complete denial? Sounds to me that Marantz's claim is rather honest and I tilt my hat to them.

    With normal power efficiency it appears that the amp is pushing 200W per channel in biamp mode indeed.

    I have a power meter, Marantz SR5006, and 2 x A7 speakers and anyone can verify my results himself, NO NEED TO TRUST ANYONE, JUST DO IT YOURSELF.

    This place is so unfair. No matter what facts i point I am always wrong.

    thanks very much...i do consider your advice.
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2012
    Great thread. The blind leading the blind. :rolleyes:
    Any Opinions? . . . Will I need more power?

    Do you need more money? 99.9% of the time the answer is yes for money and power.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,011
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    My SR5006 consumes 500 to 510 Watts on biamp setting, driving only my A7s in 2.0 on max volume.
    .

    Consumption and delivery are 2 different things and nobody runs any speaker/avr at full max volume for obvious reasons. Do you even know how many watts it takes to power the A7's top half ?
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  • hertz9753
    hertz9753 Posts: 310
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    My SR5006 consumes 500 to 510 Watts on biamp setting, driving only my A7s in 2.0 on max volume.

    Do you have a brain or are you in complete denial? Sounds to me that Marantz's claim is rather honest and I tilt my hat to them.

    With normal power efficiency it appears that the amp is pushing 200W per channel in biamp mode indeed.

    I have a power meter, Marantz SR5006, and 2 x A7 speakers and anyone can verify my results himself, NO NEED TO TRUST ANYONE, JUST DO IT YOURSELF.

    This place is so unfair. No matter what facts i point I am always wrong.

    I have read enough of your posts to understand that you are out prove everybody wrong. Always trying to one up someone.
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    Yes, tony, I am aware they are different things. What would you say is the efficiency % of Marantz? With 75-80% that equals about 400W output.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    hertz9753 wrote: »
    I have read enough of your posts to understand that you are out prove everybody wrong. Always trying to one up someone.

    Well? How would you say I am doing? Cos over here it feels like I am getting nailed pretty hard. Virtually everyone with over 1000 posts has called me an idiot and mocked me in some way. Do you think it's pleasant? I mean I don't care who calls me what but it wouldn't hurt if someone agreed w me once in a while. I am honestly getting tired of this. Next time I see some preposterous idea sold as fact i'll just let it go. It bugs me a little when I see the people asking the questions being mislead but this is just draining my energy.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,011
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    It bugs me a little when I see the people asking the questions being mislead

    Exactly why it seems everyone else is pileing up on YOU !!

    Simple case of not seeing the forest threw the tree's.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,477
    edited April 2012
    tonyb wrote: »
    Exactly why it seems everyone else is pileing up on YOU !!

    Simple case of not seeing the forest threw the tree's.

    I'm sorry, because I have ravioli on ignore, I can't see his dribble. But from the quotes I see, and the statement he's made about max volume to A7's because he's got it bi-amped from his AVR, I don't suppose he feels he's in any danger of clipping the signal or damaging the speakers. Oh, I forgot, his marantz magically "doubles" the power.

    Let's see, Tony has quoted ravioli saying he's bugged by people being misled. It seems to me it would be win win situation if ravioli would just stop misleading people. Or is that too difficult to figure out?
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    Dude, you promised to ignore me. Please do. I will be sincerely thankful. Tired of you. You keep coming even after the ignore, - where is my sweet relief?
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited April 2012
    Once again Ravioli proves he has no grasp of the concepts in audio, zero, nada, zilch.

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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    My SR5006 consumes 500 to 510 Watts on biamp setting, driving only my A7s in 2.0 on max volume.

    Do you have a brain or are you in complete denial? Sounds to me that Marantz's claim is rather honest and I tilt my hat to them.

    With normal power efficiency it appears that the amp is pushing 200W per channel in biamp mode indeed.

    I have a power meter, Marantz SR5006, and 2 x A7 speakers and anyone can verify my results himself, NO NEED TO TRUST ANYONE, JUST DO IT YOURSELF.

    This place is so unfair. No matter what facts i point I am always wrong.

    Do you have any proof that supports your claim of outputting 500-510 watts while playing whichever source you were using at the time based on what is being fed into the AVR? Just because a device is drawing a certain power level doesn't mean it's outputting the same! There are many factors and scenarios to take into consideration.

    BTW, how have you not fried a tweeter yet? Max volume?? Are YOU crazy!? Too bad you don't have a meter to measure the power out the speaker terminals in addition to the distortion that I'm surprised didn't kill your tweeters.

    I'm also curious, did you happen to get a reading when NOT bi-amping through the AVR?
  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,477
    edited April 2012
    ravaneli wrote: »
    My SR5006 consumes 500 to 510 Watts on biamp setting, driving only my A7s in 2.0 on max volume.
    This place is so unfair. No matter what facts i point I am always wrong.

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,132
    edited April 2012
    To Funny (You Guuyyys) commical if anything keep em coming :lol: amazing!
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  • ravaneli
    ravaneli Posts: 530
    edited April 2012
    Drenis wrote: »
    Do you have any proof that supports your claim of outputting 500-510 watts
    I wrote in bold that that's how much it consumes, not outputs. You either can't read or purposely misrepresent my statements. It's very touching that your are worrying about my tweeters but you don't have to. If it makes u feel any better that was not even max channel level and I only pushed it for a minute to see the reading. Sounds a little harsh but far from severe clipping.

    i have company now and don't want to deal with putting the jumpers back on and testing, perhaps this weekend.
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I have found that tube based computers provide the best sound quality. ENIAC and MANIAC I offer a smooth, well defined and articulated sound unmatched by the current silicon based CPUs. :wink:
    But as in all things your perception is your reality.