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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,606
    edited November 2011
    Dang, somebody not get enough turkey today?
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    halo71 wrote: »
    Dang, somebody not get enough turkey today?

    No just stated a fact at the start of the thread and got pounced on because I called them out on it
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    And why is that? You can't jsut sit around and let companies do this, its unethical

    Lunch was tasty BTW...

    But see here. First thing I notice was your from Sue Saint Marie. You live in Canada so guess what (What Dre!?!?!) Polk Direct doesn't even ship to Canada. So I mean unless you plan on crossing the border........ tack on gas and taxes, duty... etc etc

    Second, Polk is allowed like any company to set and change their prices without warning or notice as they wish. It's nice to see them offer a ebay page with discounted items that you swear are brand new. But that's just it, it's polk's choice. At least some retailers north of the border are recognizing this US ONLY sale. What i will NOT let companies do is earn my business when deal in shady sales. Polk does not do that.

    F1nut wrote: »
    From Polk's eBay listings,

    It's surprising what a simple phone call can accomplish.

    This.

    A simple phone call with an inquiry goes a long way. What were you thinking when you made this? Did you think everyone wouldn't jump down your throat??

    You made an assumption. A terrible one that you could have handled better. You assume that polk is ripping people off by offering a black friday sale (exempt to Canadians as it's the US thanksgiving weekend) and using the same price. I personally don't think that's a topic for discussion. If anything, retailers discount NEW and UN-OPENED merchandise that are slated for a sale. It's almost ALWAYS never returned, refurbished or b-stock items. Does Future Shop offer Boxing Day prices on returned or refurbished stuff? No. But you always see new stuff being discounted. I guess the point is refurbished is a nice bonus. The price they set over new is amazing. That price IS a black friday price but constantly. The fact polk corrected the error shows that it was an honest mistake cause the prices were ALREADY changed back to as they were by the time I saw your thread.

    Polk does not have to bend over for this if they choose not too. You blew this out of proportion.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    No just stated a fact at the start of the thread and got pounced on because I called them out on it

    Here's your fact: you can buy refurbished Polk Audio LSi9 Ebony Bookshelf Loudspeakers ($999 SR) for $549.45 (45% off) on eBay.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2011
    Jim

    What your sayin is, you had a giddy fit about pricing, then subsequently bought a pair of klipsch that are great........if you like migraines........... FOR TWICE THE PRICE?

    and we're the mindless sheep?

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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    Drenis wrote: »
    Lunch was tasty BTW...

    But see here. First thing I notice was your from Sue Saint Marie. You live in Canada so guess what (What Dre!?!?!) Polk Direct doesn't even ship to Canada. So I mean unless you plan on crossing the border........ tack on gas and taxes, duty... etc etc

    Second, Polk is allowed like any company to set and change their prices without warning or notice as they wish. It's nice to see them offer a ebay page with discounted items that you swear are brand new. But that's just it, it's polk's choice. At least some retailers north of the border are recognizing this US ONLY sale. What i will NOT let companies do is earn my business when deal in shady sales. Polk does not do that.




    This.

    A simple phone call with an inquiry goes a long way. What were you thinking when you made this? Did you think everyone wouldn't jump down your throat??

    You made an assumption. A terrible one that you could have handled better. You assume that polk is ripping people off by offering a black friday sale (exempt to Canadians as it's the US thanksgiving weekend) and using the same price. I personally don't think that's a topic for discussion. If anything, retailers discount NEW and UN-OPENED merchandise that are slated for a sale. It's almost ALWAYS never returned, refurbished or b-stock items. Does Future Shop offer Boxing Day prices on returned or refurbished stuff? No. But you always see new stuff being discounted. I guess the point is refurbished is a nice bonus. The price they set over new is amazing. That price IS a black friday price but constantly. The fact polk corrected the error shows that it was an honest mistake cause the prices were ALREADY changed back to as they were by the time I saw your thread.

    Polk does not have to bend over for this if they choose not too. You blew this out of proportion.
    Live on a border town. Have a Michigan address, and work for Customs. So not a big issue.

    As for pricing, THEY CHANGED IT DAYS BEFORE THE BLACK FRIDAY SALE and then changed it back to the regular sale price. Is it that hard to grasp????????? In a week from now the regular "Sale" price on these used speakers will still be $549
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    ohskigod wrote: »
    Jim

    What your sayin is, you had a giddy fit about pricing, then subsequently bought a pair of klipsch that are great........if you like migraines........... FOR TWICE THE PRICE?

    and we're the mindless sheep?

    Oooooooookkaaaaaaayyy terrific!


    LOL you obviously know nothing about speakers, the reference line of Klipsch blow away any lsi speaker. Migraines f=running my tube amp off some reference Klipsch speakers. Not a possibility
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2011
    Actually with the Lsim out in dull swing the price might actually be lower down the road. Imagine how batsh$t insane you'll get then. Lolz
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2011
    Heard them on 7k monoblocks, Let's just say we will agree to disagree.
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    LOL you obviously know nothing about speakers, the reference line of Klipsch blow away any lsi speaker. Migraines f=running my tube amp off some reference Klipsch speakers. Not a possibility
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    Live on a border town. Have a Michigan address, and work for Customs. So not a big issue.

    As for pricing, THEY CHANGED IT DAYS BEFORE THE BLACK FRIDAY SALE and then changed it back to the regular sale price. Is it that hard to grasp????????? In a week from now the regular "Sale" price on these used speakers will still be $549

    Well congrats because you have it easy then unlike MOST of us Canadians. If polk intended to change the price, they wouldn't have rectified it as quick as they did. Why is that hard for you to grasp? Also, while polk's advertises their black friday sale starts today, show me on that LSi9 page that those speakers are included in the sale for the listed price. Do that and I'll apologize and stay out of here.

    Sounds like you have shipping connections and your with customs... just that alone is a benefit over all Canadians. Don't say no because you could bring it in without duties and tax. I know how some customs people have all the pros with their job.
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  • Phasewolf
    Phasewolf Posts: 514
    edited November 2011
    Reading this thread lowered my IQ 10 points I want a refund.
    Absolute corruption empowers absolutely.

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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    Drenis wrote: »
    Well congrats because you have it easy then unlike MOST of us Canadians. If polk intended to change the price, they wouldn't have rectified it as quick as they did. Why is that hard for you to grasp? Also, while polk's advertises their black friday sale starts today, show me on that LSi9 page that those speakers are included in the sale for the listed price. Do that and I'll apologize and stay out of here.

    Sounds like you have shipping connections and your with customs... just that alone is a benefit over all Canadians. Don't say no because you could bring it in without duties and tax. I know how some customs people have all the pros with their job.

    Cause now after 2 days the price is back to $549 black friday price. I feel like I'm repeating myself. Did I mention I've been watching this for months and thought after seeing the black friday ad I'd wait
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited November 2011
    Happy Thanksgiving to all.

    I am thankful to have the right to **** moan and complain, even when it isn't necessary.

    I'm thankful that many are fighting for me to have that right, and that many have died for me to have that right.

    When I think of the lives lost for my benefit, the bitching, moaning and complaining doesn't seem that necessary any more.

    I now choose to forgive those things that I could otherwise complain about. ESPecially when no reconciliation has been attempted between the company and the consumer. I find it best to at least inquire first before firing a shot.
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    Phasewolf wrote: »
    Reading this thread lowered my IQ 10 points I want a refund.

    I'm face palming, some people just don't get it. If you owned a company and sold something for $549 and advertised an upcoming sale. Would you then raise the price a few days before the sale to drop it again when the advertised sale came around. Probably not. But hey if you dont mind a company doing this than you probably don't mind going to the proctologist
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I'm face palming, some people just don't get it. If you owned a company and sold something for $549 and advertised an upcoming sale. Would you then raise the price a few days before the sale to drop it again when the advertised sale came around. Probably not. But hey if you dont mind a company doing this than you probably don't mind going to the proctologist

    In my book, Polk has so much goodwill in the bank based upon the way they have treated me and fellow Polkies that they get the benefit of the doubt here.

    An AGAIN, it's not Black Friday yet. Call them, wait and see, but in my opinion you just flat out need to drop it for now.
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  • jbooker82
    jbooker82 Posts: 1,627
    edited November 2011
    I would say any body that let's a " Black Friday Sale" determine weather or not they buy something is the REAL mindless sheep. I guess the sound of the speaker doesn't matter as much as how good of a deal your going to get.
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    Cause now after 2 days the price is back to $549 black friday price. I feel like I'm repeating myself. Did I mention I've been watching this for months and thought after seeing the black friday ad I'd wait

    Again... show me where it states that is a "Black Friday" price. Seriously.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited November 2011
    "Thick as a Brick" is one of my favorite tunes
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  • Drenis
    Drenis Posts: 2,871
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I'm face palming, some people just don't get it. If you owned a company and sold something for $549 and advertised an upcoming sale. Would you then raise the price a few days before the sale to drop it again when the advertised sale came around. Probably not. But hey if you dont mind a company doing this than you probably don't mind going to the proctologist

    Again, where is the proof of this claim? You have no factual proof either by the horses mouth or a statement that clearly advises that Polk raised the price legitimately only to reduce it to a price earlier on and call it a black friday discount.

    I asked to see this before and you have none of it! As a fellow canuck, I can't back you on this one.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited November 2011
    Drenis wrote: »
    Again... show me where it states that is a "Black Friday" price. Seriously.

    You are spot on right! I just scoured the eBay page and there is no mention of Black Friday.

    This one is all in his mind.
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    Drenis wrote: »
    Again, where is the proof of this claim? You have no factual proof either by the horses mouth or a statement that clearly advises that Polk raised the price legitimately only to reduce it to a price earlier on and call it a black friday discount.

    I asked to see this before and you have none of it! As a fellow canuck, I can't back you on this one.

    OMG I give up polk cant do any wrong. I show the ad last night showing the raised price with the 45% off in the title even though its was now 35% off. See they forgot to change it but changed the price. THEN today the price is changed back to $549

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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    Wow I guess ebay has a history of changes made to an ad

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&_trksid=p4340.l2569&rt=nc&item=390320715539

    Nov-23-11 10:07:36 PST Shipping Terms
    Buy It Now Price
    Details
    Gallery

    Item Specifics: - Home Speakers
    Changed Color from -- to Ebony
    Changed Type from -- to Bookshelf, Wall Mount
    Changed Brand from -- to Polk



    Nov-23-11 10:16:08 PST Sale Start
    Buy It Now Price



    Nov-23-11 12:32:17 PST Quantity
    Shipping Terms
    Buy It Now Price
    Gallery
    Sale End



    Nov-24-11 06:46:21 PST Sale Start
    Buy It Now Price


    Wow what do you know they changed the price 3 times in 2 days.

    "Greetings from polkaudio!



    Black Friday Deals start on Nov-24!

    Some deals may continue until Dec-1!


    "
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    END, proved me point. take with it what you want. Open minded people will see this for what it is.
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    lightman1 Posts: 10,794
    edited November 2011
    I like hot dogs! Who's with me??!!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,760
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    Live on a border town. Have a Michigan address, and work for Customs. So not a big issue.

    So what you're saying is it's ok for you to bend the rules/laws, if not outright break them and that you use your job with Customs in what appears to be an unethical/illegal way. Yeah, you're not very smart stating that on a public forum. What's your boss's name as I'd like to have a talk with him or her?

    Never mind, I found the contact info. http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/contact/menu-eng.html
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited November 2011
    Saaaaanap! Lol
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  • Poee7R
    Poee7R Posts: 904
    edited November 2011
    Comparing Polk to AV123?

    Yep thats some class you have there, Jim. I understand not being happy when prices fluctuate, but to start a tantrum like this, that isnt going to get you anywhere... doesnt make much sense. Not too mention the kind of person you look like for taking things to an undeserved level.


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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    So what you're saying is it's ok for you to bend the rules/laws, if not outright break them and that you use your job with Customs in what appears to be an unethical/illegal way. Yeah, you're not very smart stating that on a public forum. What's your boss's name as I'd like to have a talk with him or her?

    Never mind, I found the contact info. http://www.cbsa.gc.ca/contact/menu-eng.html

    I can purchase whatever I want in the untied states like any other canadian citizen as long as I claim it at the border fool. Stop trolling
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    nguyendot Posts: 3,594
    edited November 2011
    JimBRICK wrote: »
    I can purchase whatever I want in the untied states like any other canadian citizen as long as I claim it at the border fool. Stop trolling

    Only a fool would call it the "untied states".

    And the fact is, you publicly admitted to utilizing a position in customs for your own personal gain. You want to talk about unethical now? Are you the pot, or the kettle?
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  • JimBRICK
    JimBRICK Posts: 1,543
    edited November 2011
    Poee7R wrote: »
    Comparing Polk to AV123?

    Yep thats some class you have there, Jim. I understand not being happy when prices fluctuate, but to start a tantrum like this, that isnt going to get you anywhere... doesnt make much sense. Not too mention the kind of person you look like for taking things to an undeserved level.


    Dave


    HAHA yeah the prices fluctuated HAHAHAHA

    OMG you guys will defend this to the end eh. EVEN after I showed you in black and white what happened. I dont know what to say to this. I cant give you the benefit of the doubt that you are misinformed but you saw it in plain text. Price was $549 2 days ago with an advertisment on the page saying black friday deals coming. 1 day ago price changes to $649 and then on the 24th the advertised sale day its back to $549. What do you not get????????? Really I need to know that you people who are defending this arent as stupid as you sound. I showed you on EBAYS own website where they did this. In black and white really. No wonder Bush got away with that crap for 8 years. Your people won't believe facts right in front of you
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