Stacked!!!! Wow!!!

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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited September 2003
    That wasn't a very nice post, Danger.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
    Remote Control: iPad Mini

    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
    AVR: Yamaha Aventage RX-A2030
    Blu Ray: Sony BDP-S790
    TV Source: DirecTV Genie
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Figure 4...wasn't that

    Sheat...I forgot...

    STING!!!!!!.....no....that was like the scorpian death lock.....RICK FLAIR wasnt? Elifino!

    Thanks for all the kind words. Ken, I appologized in another thread. Sorry you didn't read it.

    L&C, I agree with you.

    That was not the way I wanted to start my day......
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited September 2003
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Thanks for all the kind words. Ken, I appologized in another thread. Sorry you didn't read it.
    To point out what my off topic rant was about in the same conversation in several posts, if you wanted to apologize Sid, do it in the thread in which you called him an ****. I wouldn't be searching every thread out there to find a response......duh....
    comment comment comment comment. bitchy.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Ken B is not an ****$hole, infact he offers great advice and out look on this forum. However, I must say I do not appreciate his comments. I felt they were uncalled for. I guess I approached that situation in a more unfashionable way, and I am sorry for my rudeness, I shall digress(sp).
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • fgr41
    fgr41 Posts: 432
    edited September 2003
    Why doesn't this tread just end right here? I don't think any of us will be heart broken.
    Front
    Polk RT800i (BI-wired)
    Rear
    Polk RT600i
    Center
    Polk CS400i (BI-wired)
    Sub
    SVS 25-31PCi (22Hz tuning port)... it's SubHuman
    Receiver
    YAMAHA RX-V1400
    TV
    Mitsubishi WT-46807 HDTV
    HD receiver
    T i V o HR10-250
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    People keep re-awakening the past. Look for the next turn please.

    I agree, or lets put this back on the rails.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,774
    edited September 2003
    Originally posted by brettw22
    To point out what my off topic rant was about in the same conversation in several posts, if you wanted to apologize Sid, do it in the thread in which you called him an ****. I wouldn't be searching every thread out there to find a response......duh....

    I did catch both apologies and I accept. I was just bustin' his chops. It's all good here
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Mark,
    Have you had exstensive listening time with the stacked setup? I am very interested to hear how you think the dual silk tweeters do. I honestly like the Silk/Tri Lam combo, I plan to get the RTi38 or RTi6 for my surrounds before its over and will test them in place of the 35i to see how it sounds.

    How do you have it all hooked up?

    Glad you tried it and found great results. Anyone else tried this?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • malikarshad
    malikarshad Posts: 527
    edited September 2003
    Originally posted by Vr3MxStyler2k3
    Mark,
    Have you had exstensive listening time with the stacked setup? I am very interested to hear how you think the dual silk tweeters do. I honestly like the Silk/Tri Lam combo, I plan to get the RTi38 or RTi6 for my surrounds before its over and will test them in place of the 35i to see how it sounds.

    How do you have it all hooked up?

    Glad you tried it and found great results. Anyone else tried this?

    Well i did try listening for about 2 to 3 hours but I still want to did it more with 4 movies & 10 to 20 sound tracks.
    But from my preliminary test the sound is impressive. The soundstage is wider and smoother. My wife luvs this setup so I bought a pair of Rti38's from CC.
    I have hooked up 70's & 38's in parallel mode i.e. one wire goes to 38's directly from receiver and other biwire goes directly to 70's. I want to try the series mode and see how it sounds.
    I'm not sure whether my receiver will be overloaded with this setup. I guess denon avr-3803 is pretty good receiver so it should be able to handle it.
    But i'm definite that stacked up is a way to go. I've name the setup as Rti 738's.
    Sid don't be afraid to try new things in life and you'll have many pleasent surprises. I'm with u on this.
    Thanx

    Speakers=>Salk Soundscape 8, Soundscape Center,Surrounds-Dali Rubicon LCR, Lsi7
    PreAmp, Amp => Marantz AV8801, ATI 6007 amp, Oppo HA-1 DAC
    Source => Sonore MicroRendu, Oppo BDP-103, Mede8er 600XD, Dune HD Smart D1, Synology DS1813+(16TB)
    Sub - JTR Captivator S2 (Dual 18")
    Power - Furman IT-Ref20i on dedicated 30Amp circuit with Furutech GTX-R outlet
    Screen=> JVC RS-45 projector Da-Lite HP 133" 2.35
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited September 2003
    well thats a few people liking the stacked idea, I stand corrected then, maybe it wasnt such a "bad" idea after all.. have fun.. what if you disconected the 70 tweet and just ran the 2 mids and the rti38 so you would have a even 3 mids and a tweet on top and wouldnt have to invert the 38?? what about this..
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • malikarshad
    malikarshad Posts: 527
    edited September 2003
    Originally posted by faster100
    what if you disconected the 70 tweet and just ran the 2 mids and the rti38 so you would have a even 3 mids and a tweet on top and wouldnt have to invert the 38?? what about this..
    That will make tweeter too high up. I guess it should be the other way around. Disconnect the Rti38's tweet's so everything is in line & the tweet will be at ear level.
    Can somebody tell me will this setup overload my receiver?

    Speakers=>Salk Soundscape 8, Soundscape Center,Surrounds-Dali Rubicon LCR, Lsi7
    PreAmp, Amp => Marantz AV8801, ATI 6007 amp, Oppo HA-1 DAC
    Source => Sonore MicroRendu, Oppo BDP-103, Mede8er 600XD, Dune HD Smart D1, Synology DS1813+(16TB)
    Sub - JTR Captivator S2 (Dual 18")
    Power - Furman IT-Ref20i on dedicated 30Amp circuit with Furutech GTX-R outlet
    Screen=> JVC RS-45 projector Da-Lite HP 133" 2.35
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  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited September 2003
    For a period of time I had a pair of sealed 3-ways (10", 3"X9" horn mid, and a 2"cone tweeter) inverted atop my Polk 10Bs. I was using my receiver's 2nd zone (uses the surround amps) to drive the Polks. This worked quite well. I was able to adjust the volume of each pair independantly. Whenever I switched back to a single pair it just sounded empty at the same measured loudness. I was able to pivet each set to get the best soundstage and imaging I could.

    I then made the periscopes and learned to settle;) .
    Make it Funky! :)
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Glad to hear everyone is digging the stacked idea...

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    A *LAUGHING* Sid......waaaaaaaaaa
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2003
    I don't dig it, its a silly idea to me. Glad it has shown some good things to you audio nuts.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited September 2003
    doro, I mentioned something like this awhile back, stacking my r15's on my 70's and the concensus was Not a good idea.. from alot of people.. so what ever floats the few people who like it's boats, LOL
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    oh sheat! Now it makes sense.......

    I saw the WRONG sn........DUH!!!!!!

    Ok,

    malikarshad -- that dude! Great to hear you like it!!!!

    The R15 will NOT sound good on top of the RTi70. The mid-bass is to enclosed to match properly.......try the i38 and report back...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2003
    Faster - I hear ya man....experimenting is great. I find myself with way too many other things disconnected and disassembled, than to try that, :D
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Mark,
    I would try it. Seriously. With matching woofers (or similar) and matching tweeters (or similar) not a lower line than the one your using like Faster tried... *sigh*

    Try it, I think you will like the sound. Don't say it's silly until you have it hooked up with a drink in your hand (hearing your Polk's sounding 100 times better). ;)

    Faster, hook them RTi38 on top of your RTi70...just for a breif listen...try it!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • bigsexy1
    bigsexy1 Posts: 557
    edited September 2003
    I might could see it if with the 38s if you already had another set of 38s on stands as your mains since everything would be the exact same, thus in effect giving you a set of 55s in a D'appoloto variation, but not the 70 and 38s. There is still the efficiency and crossover differences that looks to me like it would actually degrade the sound and screw things up out of balance.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    I can't really comment with the i38. I plan to buy them for surrounds, but since the 1db difference in eff. I don't plan to stack them. Personally feel the RTxxxi sitting on top of the RTixxx compliments each other.

    In my opinion,
    The RTxxxi line has a more detailed top end, and a more center image. Where as the RTixxx has a more slamming sound, not as open top end, with a more side focused soundstage, with a good center image. Nothing like the older line. Clearly my opinion.

    I also feel when you mix smoothness with detail, as I have found...makes a great combo. I cant really comment till I get the other main in a mirror image. But from just sitting there, with one finger in my ear canceling out one channel the best I can. Switching back and fourth. Going up to it, listening for differences. The openness of the RTxxxi line with the slam of the RTixxx line, makes a GREAT combo. All I can really say about it. The RTi70 cuts off at 2.1khz, and everything about that is sent to the tweeter. The RTi38 cuts off at 2.2khz, I believe. Not sure about the RT35i.

    You have to remember a cut off isnt a direct stop, it rolls off. The differences would be subtle, to un-noticeable to the human ear in the crossover.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited September 2003
    Oh, heck.... might as well add a few opinions of my own to this conversation...

    For a long while I was running a total of 3 pair of speakers in my 2ch rig. The first pair were my Polk 5jrs, which were on Zone "a" of my receiver by themselves. Then I had my Radioshack (don't laugh) and my Micro Acoustics speakers stacked in parallel on zone "b". The stacking was simply because of space constraints.

    Overall, I found that the system sounded better with all speakers turned on. Most of this was because my receiver would step-down the output of the channels if both zones were enabled. This took a lot of the harshness out of the system and made the highs sound a lot smoother.

    But then I took some time an actually listened to my system when the room was silent (I have a lot of computers in my room, and normally the system has to overpower all the fans :-)), and found that with a little tweaking, the Polks sounded just fine by themselves. So I ran it with just the Polks, until I moved them down to the living room for the TV. Now, I'm just running the two stacks in my room, and after some recalibration for them, the system is still sounding good.

    The nice thing about the two pair of speakers I have stacked is that they compliment each other well. The Micro-Acoustics have 8" woofers which I replaced with Rockford Fosgate Punch woofers due to the surrounds being rotted out. These woofers are built to take a lot of power and hit low. The RadioShack Nova woofers are also 8", but they are not meant to take quite as low of a frequency. In effect, they're acting as kind of a midrange for the system, and seem to do it well. A majority of the high end that I hear comes from the RadioShack speakers, but they only have a 2" paper cone tweeter, which is really not much of a match for the Polk's SL1000 tweets.

    Anyway, this is just my little adventure with stacking, and it seems to work well. Take it however you will....

    nadams
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Na,
    Have you ever tried stacking similar polks on top of the 5jr?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited September 2003
    Don't have any _to_ stack... The JRs are my only polks as of right now.

    I've got too many other hobbies, and not enough income, you know? Stupid school taken up all my free time :-). What's I needs my English class fer enyways?

    nadams
    Ludicrous gibs!
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    I know EXACTLY how that is.

    Having school really limitates my funds also. I can only work on the weekends.

    Seems my summer job is also coming to a close at the same time. My Dad is trying to get a contractor licenses...if he does that means he can build anywhere in the state of NC and sub all of his work out. Which sucks for me, as then I wouldn't be able to build houses anymore. That really is a fun job.

    Hopefully my Dad won't ever pass the test and I can keep working for him till I can get a real job when I turn 16. Mainly because the summer coming up is a big part of my rig. Hopefully will be the final changes/upgrades. My whole year depends on it really...

    We will see, but yeah - I know how it is. If you ever get another pair, stack em again. You will be equally surprised.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited September 2003
    First I would never wish your own Dad to fail....cmon Trey he's your source of all the income, in one way or another. ;)

    Second, how does one "limitate" their funds? Do you pretend to limit them? Maybe you think really hard about imposing a limit on them? Or do they become attracted to you, and find that your pockets limit them? I need some sleep.

    That word is funny Trey, just messing with you, Stackmaster.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Im tired......go away.....:p
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Big Dan R
    Big Dan R Posts: 131
    edited September 2003
    Hey Sid, how old are you dude, Im just curious.
    BDR
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited September 2003
    he's 14 going on 40 :)
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2

    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Im 14, going on 40 minus 25 years.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited September 2003
    Mark,
    by the way, my Dad is not failing. He is trying to get a contractor license so he can sit on his tail infront of his computer on the stock market all day instead of picking up a hammer...basically.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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