My emotiva amp wont fit my mit bananas

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited July 2011
    Probably. Wait and see what Emo says and then in the future is things aren't compatible, for whatever reason, DON'T force the issue :smile:

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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited July 2011
    Sorry I am late to the Party. PFB, that sucks royally.

    I guess you gave a little more than you needed too. Like others said Crap happens.

    I hope EMO steps up. If they don't it will just fool the haters more.







    PS I am not a fan of EMO but hate to see a fellow Polkie get screwed.
  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited July 2011
    I would ask them to install a better post from the jump. Perhaps it would give them a reason to use a better post in the future. Maybe they can learn from this.

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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited July 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Probably. Wait and see what Emo says and then in the future is things aren't compatible, for whatever reason, DON'T force the issue :smile:

    H9

    LOL I wont force the issue :biggrin:

    The rep told me to call back today to get a hold of some one from the tech department so hopefully they will have a solution that works out good
  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited July 2011
    LOL I wont force the issue :biggrin:

    The rep told me to call back today to get a hold of some one from the tech department so hopefully they will have a solution that works out good
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  • BWilberg266
    BWilberg266 Posts: 191
    edited July 2011
    Any updates on the situation? Would love to see how Emotiva handles this strictly from a customers service standpoint.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited July 2011
    Any updates on the situation? Would love to see how Emotiva handles this strictly from a customers service standpoint.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122317

    Depends on your point of view as to if they handled it correctly or not.....
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,190
    edited July 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Just because you took 5 steps backwards doesn't mean anyone else wants to follow.

    What does that even mean?

    It's not the MIT banana plugs that are the problem here. They are high quality plugs and their craftsmanship is top notch. One quick look should tell anyone with half a brain that the binding posts are cheap crap.

    So if one has 1/2 of brain , you should just know that these binding posts that thousands of people have used are just crap? And you know this how? I I forgot you have 1/2 of brain.:roll eyes:

    So if you look at this receiver here which is one of the very best of all time which seems to have the same exact binding posts are just trash?
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_9_2/b&k-avr-307-receiver-5-2002.html
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  • apphd
    apphd Posts: 1,514
    edited July 2011
    ctank wrote: »
    I have two UPA-1's..They have been great amps..i have bananas on all speaker wire.I had a Carver amp back in the 90's and had one plug break off. i have one plug on the back of my center Polk speaker that came loose.And on a Onkyo AVR one would never tighten up..So saying you get what you pay for is BS.Sh$t happen's..Emotiva's are good Amps..If they where sold from a store front a mark up on them 4 to 5 hundred more would be added.So to say you get what you pay for is a personal statement.

    If you were referring to my post, maybe you should read it again. My comments were in regards to his post saying he bought some "cheapo" MIT's from someplace. What I was trying to point out was better put by H9 and William. Lots of people slamming gear on speculation.

    Yours and others overly quick defense of Emo helps feed the local trolls too much.:wink:
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited July 2011
    Dan, it's called poor quality control.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited July 2011
    sigh :confused:
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,190
    edited July 2011
    Face wrote: »
    Dan, it's called poor quality control.

    Face I believe he broke it himself. I have seen this before. He forced it in maybe on a slight angle and snapped off the binding post. Those binding post except banana jacks. Even the ones MIT uses which many companies use the same exact ones will fit. I have never seen a banana plug not fit into a binding post on any amp or receiver for that matter that didn't fit. They are all the same size. They are made differently but not different sizes like Spades are.

    As you probably know and I'm gonna assume man do not , banana's are designed to go into the hole in the top of the binding post not the bare wire or pin connector hole on the side which you have to loosen the binding post to gain access to.
    When you are inserting banana jacks into a binding post , it's best practice to make sure the binding post is tighten down first. If the binding post is loose or open for bare wire to be inserted , and try to insert a banana , you have high risk of snapping the post off no matter who made it or what quality it is.
    This is exactly what happened to this Emotiva amp. People with little or no experience should not be allowed to touch anything. I also see many wrecking HDMI inputs by trying to insert the connector in the wrong way and destroy the input which I also see this is a practice of this dude.
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited July 2011
    Anyone else think it might just need an air hole?
  • gudnoyez
    gudnoyez Posts: 8,114
    edited July 2011
    I prefer spades over nanner plugs, I have tried both with good speaker cable, can you hear a difference? I cant, keep on cranking the tunes everyone and enjoy your gear.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited July 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Just because you took 5 steps backwards doesn't mean anyone else wants to follow.

    Oh please...spare me the MIT BS! I took 5 steps alright, in the right direction after ditching those black boxes!
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited July 2011
    mantis wrote: »
    Face I believe he broke it himself. I have seen this before. He forced it in maybe on a slight angle and snapped off the binding post. Those binding post except banana jacks. Even the ones MIT uses which many companies use the same exact ones will fit. I have never seen a banana plug not fit into a binding post on any amp or receiver for that matter that didn't fit. They are all the same size. They are made differently but not different sizes like Spades are.

    As you probably know and I'm gonna assume man do not , banana's are designed to go into the hole in the top of the binding post not the bare wire or pin connector hole on the side which you have to loosen the binding post to gain access to.
    When you are inserting banana jacks into a binding post , it's best practice to make sure the binding post is tighten down first. If the binding post is loose or open for bare wire to be inserted , and try to insert a banana , you have high risk of snapping the post off no matter who made it or what quality it is.
    This is exactly what happened to this Emotiva amp. People with little or no experience should not be allowed to touch anything. I also see many wrecking HDMI inputs by trying to insert the connector in the wrong way and destroy the input which I also see this is a practice of this dude.

    What do you mean by ... I also see this as a practice of this dude?

    How come nothing else I have is broken ? Your being silly with your explanation of how to put a banana plug in a binding post

    Your like talking as if your doing some kinda remote viewing

    Have you read anything here ? The reason I put the pin in sideways was because none of the holes accept the banana plugs

    Maybe I should take your advice and ditch the MIT and buy a spool of audioquest huh? :rolleyes:
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited July 2011
    It would be interesting if you were to get some different plugs and see if they fit, or not. Then you could actually figure out which product was actually defective, if any.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,500
    edited July 2011
    mantis wrote: »
    So if one has 1/2 of brain , you should just know that these binding posts that thousands of people have used are just crap? And you know this how? I I forgot you have 1/2 of brain.:roll eyes:

    So if you look at this receiver here which is one of the very best of all time which seems to have the same exact binding posts are just trash?
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_9_2/b&k-avr-307-receiver-5-2002.html

    I don't even need half a brain to tell you that the binding posts on the back of that B&K are crap. For that matter, so are the ones on the back of my SC-37. How do I know this, you ask? Because I own or have owned gear with high quality posts and they don't look anything like the ones emo, B&K or Pio use.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,500
    edited July 2011
    Oh please...spare me the MIT BS! I took 5 steps alright, in the right direction after ditching those black boxes!

    Keep telling yourself that Phil and one day it might come true.
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  • pearsall001
    pearsall001 Posts: 5,068
    edited July 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Keep telling yourself that Phil and one day it might come true.

    I know you worship MIT Jesse, but there's no love for those cables with me.
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited July 2011
    ctank wrote: »
    ..Hi-5 at ya for sharing you rack set'up..this is me when something goes wrong in my set.up..lol..
    ..Once again..lol..:biggrin:Mono UPA-1's rule!:biggrin:
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,190
    edited July 2011
    What do you mean by ... I also see this as a practice of this dude?

    How come nothing else I have is broken ? Your being silly with your explanation of how to put a banana plug in a binding post

    Your like talking as if your doing some kinda remote viewing

    Have you read anything here ? The reason I put the pin in sideways was because none of the holes accept the banana plugs

    Maybe I should take your advice and ditch the MIT and buy a spool of audioquest huh? :rolleyes:

    If one inserts a banana in and breaks the binding post , someone is doing something wrong. I have installed more amps and receiver then every single person on this forum has ever owned will own or knows anyone who owns and I'll tell you honestly dude , I never once broke a binding post with a banana.
    I'm no fan of MIT , lets be completely clear here but i don't believe Emotiva or MIT is at fault here. I'm sure hundreds of others own that very same amp you do and probably 1 or 2 of them got tricked into buying MIT cables and stuck the banana's into the amps binding post and didn't break one off.
    You broke this amp by not properly inserting it.
    End of story.
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  • mantis
    mantis Posts: 17,190
    edited July 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    I don't even need half a brain to tell you that the binding posts on the back of that B&K are crap. For that matter, so are the ones on the back of my SC-37. How do I know this, you ask? Because I own or have owned gear with high quality posts and they don't look anything like the ones emo, B&K or Pio use.

    So it's not user error here it's the crappy binding posts that break when you put Banana's into them. Ok we should do a pole who owns those very same binding posts and see how many more people other then this dude has broken them with banana's.
    We can also throw in all the Pioneer Elite SC owners and see how many of them broke their binding posts , on a side note did you break yours on your SC-37 with your MIT wires?
    Dan
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,500
    edited July 2011
    Dan, you don't have a leg to stand on concerning those cheap binding posts. Go ahead, post a POLL (not pole) and we'll see how many agree/disagree that the binding posts in question are cheap. I already know the outcome, so I'm not going to bother posting a poll myself.

    Of course, I didn't break the SC-37 posts, but I also know that it wouldn't take much to do so. The damn things are about as flimsy as possible.
    I'm sure hundreds of others own that very same amp you do and probably 1 or 2 of them got tricked into buying MIT cables

    I'm not sure what your and Phil's problem is with MIT cables other than you found something else that ya'll like better and that's fine. The problem I have with both of you is the way you run around poo-pooing them. You don't see myself or others here putting down your current flavor of the month cable and let's face it, you've had way too many flavors over the years. So many in fact, that it's hard to take you seriously when it come to cables.

    For the record, I have tried Audioquest cables and found them lacking. I have never tried the Mapleshade motor windings in my rig, but I've heard them on other rigs and was not impressed.

    Judging by the posts here, most folks that try MIT cables like them. What effing skin that is off of either of your backs is beyond reason.
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited July 2011
    cables dont make a difference anyway.popcorn.gif
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  • cubdog
    cubdog Posts: 835
    edited July 2011
    Good God.

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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited July 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    cables dont make a difference anyway.popcorn.gif
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  • villock
    villock Posts: 72
    edited July 2011
    SDA1C wrote: »
    What He said...pass the salt!

    LOL. You mean my anti-cables don't make a bit of difference:confused:
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,602
    edited July 2011
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it

    Ohhh I like that!
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