I just fried one of my 1C's. Like literally, smoke. See pic...

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  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited July 2011
    You'll be quite happy with the new 10's and 11's. I have bought a few different MW's now and all of the new ones are top notch.
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  • Timothy Smith
    Timothy Smith Posts: 764
    edited July 2011
    I have noticed that speakers never seem to sound as good after you let the brown smoke out.
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited July 2011
    Smoke 'em if you got 'em!!!
    Too much **** to list....
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited July 2011
    That smoke could have been trapped in there since the good ole days. Did it have a funny smell?
    Vinyl, the final frontier...

    Avantgarde horns, 300b tubes, thats the kinda crap I want... :D
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited July 2011
    I've been waiting 2 days for the smoke to clear to be able to say that! hehe.

    Seriously, Bad juju bro! Glad to hear you got them going again.

    All the best, 1C
    Too much **** to list....
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    Trust me, the smoke was new! Yes, it stunk.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited July 2011
    Thats the burnt lacquer coating from the voice coil windings. Very unpleasant.
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited July 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    Trust me, the smoke was new! Yes, it stunk.
    Have you had a chance to do a good visual of the Xos? Usually, dark heavy smoke and very stinky will come from the PCB and its components. If you have not done a good visual of the Xos along with measurements, I would suggest you do so. You may replace the drivers but if the Xo was affected too, some problems may eventually reoccur.
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,529
    edited July 2011
    Sorry for your misfortune, but that pic is great. I think I'm going to blow it up & tape it next to the rig as a reminder for my wife. I don't know how many times I've told her amp on last/off first & she still insists on power stuff up willy nilly. Luckily all of my gear is newer SS stuff, but one of these days she's going to fry something.

    -Dave
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    Finished the upgrades to the other speaker last night. So in 48 hours I went from one of my speakers burning up to repaired 1C's along with rings, dynamat, armacell, and jb weld. I hate to say that I'm kind of glad this happened, because I'm out some money, but I will say this: If it hadn't happened, I definitely would not have these upgrades finished right now, that is for sure.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited July 2011
    Any pics???
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    On my camera, haven't uploaded anything yet.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    By the way, Larry, I had to take a hack saw to a few of the driver rings - even with the flat piece cut out, I still couldn't fit a few of them in against the wood panel that runs down the center of the cabinet. All good, though. All I need now is a hot pair of your CRS+ stands!!!
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited July 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    By the way, Larry, I had to take a hack saw to a few of the driver rings - even with the flat piece cut out, I still couldn't fit a few of them in against the wood panel that runs down the center of the cabinet. All good, though. All I need now is a hot pair of your CRS+ stands!!!


    Your the second person I know that had to do that. My brace/s were centered I guess some pushed to the side a little closer to the hole..
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    Weren't you making brackets for the tweeters as well?
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited July 2011
    yep and I might do some more soon..
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  • gimpod
    gimpod Posts: 1,793
    edited July 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    By the way, Larry, I had to take a hack saw to a few of the driver rings - even with the flat piece cut out, I still couldn't fit a few of them in against the wood panel that runs down the center of the cabinet. All good, though.
    I had to do the same thing.
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    yep and I might do some more soon..
    Just a thought, How about making them 1/4 circle brackets like the tweeter brackets. I think they would work just as well and give people more options, You could use them on Top/Bottom or on the Sides depending on the bracing besides you could get more bracket's per sheet with less waste. Just my $0.02
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited July 2011
    Neil - WOW! Glad to see you were able to recover so readily.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    Come on Mike... Have a little faith :-)
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited July 2011
    No disrespect but why was your first reaction to a burning speaker to take a picture of it ???

    Good luck.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    Vette C6.r wrote: »
    No disrespect but why was your first reaction to a burning speaker to take a picture of it ???

    First reaction was to unplug the amp. Second reaction was to take a picture :biggrin:
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited July 2011
    [QUOTE=gimpod;1617168Just a thought, How about making them 1/4 circle brackets like the tweeter brackets. I think they would work just as well and give people more options, You could use them on Top/Bottom or on the Sides depending on the bracing besides you could get more bracket's per sheet with less waste. Just my $0.02[/QUOTE]


    Trust me I thought about that in the very beginning but opt'ed not to do it as I like using the full ring, and there have only been 3 or 4 people that had to really modify anything.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    What about making the driver rings with two breakpoints like on the PR ring? That way, if I need to get rid of the flat edge side, it just snaps away. Bit more difficult than the PR, because the two snap points won't be opposite each other, so can't just fold in half. But a little gentle persuasion would work with no need for the hack saw.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited July 2011
    Good idea!!!!
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    Cool. And while you're at it you can start mass-producing CRS+ stands :biggrin:
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,418
    edited July 2011
    How did the Armacell work for you?I personally love teh stuff, because it is so compressible, and easier to work with than the mortite.
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited July 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    How did the Armacell work for you?I personally love teh stuff, because it is so compressible, and easier to work with than the mortite.

    Yeah it was great. I've not worked with the Mortite, but I've read all the pros/cons, and armacell definitely seems like the hands down winner. I can tell you one thing, my cabinets are as air tight as can be. The pressure test with the PR has never looked better.

    I definitely give the armacell a thumbs up. For the purpose, I don't see how you find a better product.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited July 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    First reaction was to unplug the amp. Second reaction was to take a picture :biggrin:

    Bitchin !!!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited July 2011
    Video would've been better, wafting, you know?:cool:
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  • headrott
    headrott Posts: 5,496
    edited July 2011
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    Trust me I thought about that in the very beginning but opt'ed not to do it as I like using the full ring, and there have only been 3 or 4 people that had to really modify anything.

    Yes Larry, I would keep them as is. They work well and as you said only a few have had to "overly" modify their speakers/rings. I believe the full ring would work better than a bracket for the drivers. However, I have obviously not tried a bracket like the tweeters, so I have no direct proof of my statement. However, logically I think a full ring would couple the driver to the speaker front than two brackets would. Sorry, I'm rambling..... Please keep it the same is my point. Thanks again Larry for the taking the time to offer to do the rings and tweeter brackets for us. I look forward to getting another set when you have time please.

    Greg
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