Best debut album
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Here are three that i don't believe have been mentioned.Review Site_ (((AudioPursuit)))
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It was an impressive album for its time with hit songs including:
"I Saw Her Standing There"
"Please Please Me"
"Love Me Do"
"Do You Want to Know a Secret"
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Though there is no doubt The Beatles are truly one of the greats, I don't think their first lp really stands out. It was unremarkable at best.
- I Saw Her Standing There .............. Lennon, McCartney 2:53
- Misery ........................................ Lennon, McCartney 1:48
- Ask Me Why ................................ Lennon, McCartney 2:26
- Please Please Me .......................... Lennon, McCartney 2:00
- Love Me Do ................................. Lennon, McCartney 2:21
- P.S. I Love You ............................ Lennon, McCartney 2:04
- Do You Want to Know a Secret ....... Lennon, McCartney 1:57
- There's a Place ............................ Lennon, McCartney 1:50
Yeah, what a pathetic effort... only 4 or 5 60's standards out of 8 original compositions... plus their cover of "Twist and Shout".
It's a wonder they weren't s**t-canned... :rolleyes:
So bad it was essentially re-released as their first U.S. LP...
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It's a wonder they weren't s**t-canned... :rolleyes:
So bad it was essentially re-released as their first U.S. LP...
How true ! I think the only thing that saved them was their sharp duds and well-groomed hair stylings.Sal Palooza -
- I Saw Her Standing There .............. Lennon, McCartney 2:53
- Misery ........................................ Lennon, McCartney 1:48
- Ask Me Why ................................ Lennon, McCartney 2:26
- Please Please Me .......................... Lennon, McCartney 2:00
- Love Me Do ................................. Lennon, McCartney 2:21
- P.S. I Love You ............................ Lennon, McCartney 2:04
- Do You Want to Know a Secret ....... Lennon, McCartney 1:57
- There's a Place ............................ Lennon, McCartney 1:50
Yeah, what a pathetic effort... only 4 or 5 60's standards out of 8 original compositions... plus their cover of "Twist and Shout".
It's a wonder they weren't s**t-canned... :rolleyes:
So bad it was essentially re-released as their first U.S. LP...
The Beatles are one of my all-time favorites. Based upon their debut release alone, they would not have stood the test of time. Can you honestly say that "Love Me Do" would be a top playing tune on an oldies station if "Eleanor Rigby" "Yesterday" or "Hey Jude" never existed? Granted, there were some catchy tunes on that release, but their greatness did not bloom until they began to get full artistic control of their material sometime around mid 1965. Rubber Soul comes to mind for some reason...
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Sufficiently Breathless is a great song by them.
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I don't know who, but somebody once said "you have your whole life to write your first album...".
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Perhaps that is why so many sophomore records fall short.
True indeed. Foreigner being the exception in this case. Their second album Double Vision sold even more and made 7x Platinum in the U.S.SDA SRS 2.3TL's
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As a big metal fan, I can't help but go with the obvious choice of BLACK SABBATH - BLACK SABBATH.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »The Beatles are one of my all-time favorites. Based upon their debut release alone, they would not have stood the test of time. Can you honestly say that "Love Me Do" would be a top playing tune on an oldies station if "Eleanor Rigby" "Yesterday" or "Hey Jude" never existed? Granted, there were some catchy tunes on that release, but their greatness did not bloom until they began to get full artistic control of their material sometime around mid 1965. Rubber Soul comes to mind for some reason...
And as to your question, yes, I can say that...Wikipedia wrote:During the week of 4 April 1964, The Beatles held twelve positions on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, including the top five positions. Neither feat has been matched by any other artist to date. The top five songs were "Can't Buy Me Love" (Capitol Records), "Twist and Shout" (Tollie Records), "She Loves You" (Swan Records), "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (Capitol), and "Please Please Me" (Vee-Jay). In addition, seven other singles occupied lower places on the chart: "I Saw Her Standing There" (Capitol), "You Can't Do That" (Capitol), "All My Loving" (Capitol of Canada), "Roll Over Beethoven" (Capitol of Canada), "From Me To You" (Vee-Jay), "Do You Want To Know A Secret" (Vee-Jay) and "Thank You Girl" (Vee-Jay).
You're entitled to your opinion, but the real point is we had a fun, friendly little thread going on... and it was titled "Best Debut Album"... not "Groups Whose Debut Album was Their Best". Folks were posting a lot of very good to great stuff. Some was also posted that I wouldn't piss on if it were on fire, but there were no negative, contrary opinions POSTED until you took issue with the debut of, by most objective measures, the greatest band of all time.
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Folks were posting a lot of very good to great stuff. Some was also posted that I wouldn't piss on if it were on fire, but there were no negative, contrary opinions POSTED until you took issue with the debut of, by most objective measures, the greatest band of all time.
Well whoopdeshit for you...
Wow... just wow. Thank you for that man. I do consider the Beatles to be the greatest group of all time. I am sorry that I don't consider their first record to be the gold standard by which debut albums should be judged. I fail to see why YOUR opinion is somehow more valid than mine here. I, and a good chunk of us that were not alive when the Beatles came on the scene probably feel the same way I do on that one. It may very well be a generational thing, but I fail to see why you feel so compelled to make an argument out of me having a different opinion on it.
A LOT of the calls made here actually made the list of the top 100 debut LPs of all time. Sorry... no Beatles.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-debut.html
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nooshinjohn wrote:A LOT of the calls made here actually made the list of the top 100 debut LPs of all time. Sorry... no Beatles.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-debut.html
I thought this was about what WE thought were great debut albums...not what research on the internet listed as great debut albums.
I could give a rats **** about the "list"...I can think for myself. :rolleyes:
But of course it is just opinion. While the Beatles do not make my list of greatest debut albums I can see why some do think so.
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I thought this was about what WE thought were great debut albums...not what research on the internet listed as great debut albums.
I could give a rats **** about the "list"...I can think for myself. :rolleyes:
But of course it is just opinion. While the Beatles do not make my list of greatest debut albums I can see why some do think so.
OTOH... Lady GaGa? Your opinion I suppose. Certainly not mine.
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nooshinjohn wrote: »Wow... just wow. Thank you for that man. I do consider the Beatles to be the greatest group of all time.
I am sorry that I don't consider their first record to be the gold standard by which debut albums should be judged.
I fail to see why YOUR opinion is somehow more valid than mine here.
I, and a good chunk of us that were not alive when the Beatles came on the scene probably feel the same way I do on that one. It may very well be a generational thing, but I fail to see why you feel so compelled to make an argument out of me having a different opinion on it.
A LOT of the calls made here actually made the list of the top 100 debut LPs of all time. Sorry... no Beatles.
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_albums-debut.html
Time to move on for me....
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Establishing a "gold standard" wasn't the point of the thread and no one ever said Please Please Me was the gold standard, and you know it, so drop the "I've been wronged" hyperbole.
You should fail to see it, because my opinion's not more important than your's or anyone else's... but posting your negative view of a fellow club member's opinion (I can't believe I have to repeat this) was both uncalled for and what prompted my rebuttal.
Sure it's generational to some degree... had you been listening to AM radio in the 60's, I believe your appreciation of their early work would increase. Again, your inappropriate post compelled me to make the case for it.
shack's already addressed your "list", but I'd like to add, a couple questions...
1. WTF is "digitaldreamdoor.com"?
2. Did you even read the criteria of your own "expert" source? It pretty much eliminates The Beatles from consideration...Criteria: - These debut albums were chosen and ranked based upon their initial and lasting popularity and their impact and influence on rock 'n' roll and its related genres. Also considered is whether or not any songs on the album were previously available for some time as singles before the album was released.
released 22 Apr '63
Singles' release dates:
"I Saw Her Standing There"
released 13 Jan '63
"Please Please Me"
released 11 Jan '63
"Love Me Do"/ PS I Love You" --- released 5 October '62
If you need the last word, have at it. I've grown weary of beating this particular, dead horse.
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Sorry for my part in damaging an inspired thread.
Speaking of this thread... Somehow this one seems to have been missed...
I wore out two copies of ELP before I graduated from college. Saw the deep synth note near the end of "Lucky Man" crease the woofer of an AR 3A...:eek:
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You're welcome... and I feel there is hope for you...
Establishing a "gold standard" wasn't the point of the thread and no one ever said Please Please Me was the gold standard, and you know it, so drop the "I've been wronged" hyperbole.
You should fail to see it, because my opinion's not more important than your's or anyone else's... but posting your negative view of a fellow club member's opinion (I can't believe I have to repeat this) was both uncalled for and what prompted my rebuttal.
Sure it's generational to some degree... had you been listening to AM radio in the 60's, I believe your appreciation of their early work would increase. Again, your inappropriate post compelled me to make the case for it.
shack's already addressed your "list", but I'd like to add, a couple questions...
1. WTF is "digitaldreamdoor.com"?
2. Did you even read the criteria of your own "expert" source? It pretty much eliminates The Beatles from consideration...
Please Please Me (LP)
released 22 Apr '63
Singles' release dates:
"I Saw Her Standing There"
released 13 Jan '63
"Please Please Me"
released 11 Jan '63
"Love Me Do"/ PS I Love You" --- released 5 October '62
If you need the last word, have at it. I've grown weary of beating this particular, dead horse.
thesurfer,
Sorry for my part in damaging an inspired thread.
Speaking of this thread... Somehow this one seems to have been missed...
I wore out two copies of ELP before I graduated from college. Saw the deep synth note near the end of "Lucky Man" crease the woofer of an AR 3A...:eek:
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The Allman Brothers Band, The Marshall Tucker Band, Leon Russell, Funkadelic, GNR Appetite for Destruction, Eric Clapton, ZZ Top's First Album, Elton John Tumbleweed Connection and a million others. Great artists usually have great debut albums.
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kefranklin wrote: »The Allman Brothers Band, The Marshall Tucker Band, Leon Russell, Funkadelic, GNR Appetite for Destruction, Eric Clapton, ZZ Top's First Album, Elton John Tumbleweed Connection and a million others. Great artists usually have great debut albums.
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^True on EJ, but you gotts say that's a pretty eclectic line-up.
Nice to see The Marshall Tucker Band mentioned...
...and Leon Russell... although his strong S/T was not his first either. I never heard his obscure debut.
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Major goof on the Elton. I don't have the other lp you mentioned, though, just s/t. Leon made about a million tracks before his debut and Look Inside the Asylum Choir with Marc Benno was his first actual lp with his name on it. It didn't sell very well and the rest of the session was released after s/t as Asylum Choir II. I actually have the Look Inside.. lp with the original toilet paper cover and the reissue. I am a bit of a Leon freak, as you can tell. The Union is great, but I haven't gotten the lp yet so I have had to listen on computer. I actually got a good disc yesterday that is Elton opening for Leon at the Fillmore in November, 1970. As far as Marshall Tucker Band and (early)Funkadelic, I believe those are two of the most underrated bands in history, even if their musical approach is slightly different. Marshall Tucker is just one of those bands that sound great on vinyl.
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Gets my vote!! Jeeze what a record, recorded on an old tube mixing board thru tube mikes, and sounds just incredible! My Dad bought it new in '76 and was played on his Pioneer system, even then I could hear the 'magic' sound...I dare anyone to best it sonically on a good system cuz I said so that's why!!Thorens TD125MKII, SME3009,Shure V15/ Teac V-8000S, Denon DN-790R cass, Teac 3340 RtR decks, Onix CD2...Sumo Electra Plus pre>SAE A1001 amp>Martin Logan Summit's -
Oh the memories..I want my vinyl back...Jefferson Airplane , Zep, Boston, Heart, Chicago, ELP to name a few. I had em all and my friend had even more than I did...some of you younger folks need to check out some of the oldies..