Having a real problem with flea market buyer guys
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Everyone has there own opinion on whats safe and who is safe to buy from. Don't forget Larry's problem with an established Polkie not paying up or Snow having to pay a established polkies Debt last year.
I could care less if you buy from me or not, but I'd take my gear over yours anyday."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
[HTML][/HTML]Club Polk, craigslist, and eBay all get treated the same with me unless I personally know you. I sold a pair of peerless tweets to a club Polk member last year. After a week he claims the tweeters didn't work. I said ok ship them back and I'll refund your money he never did. He later claimed he tried to solder them and may have messed them up. He obviously thought he could get over on me but I wasn't born yesterday.I have bought and sold several things in our FM and never had an issue that wasn't immediately taken care of!
Just recently a member offered to send me a piece of gear he wasn;t using, on his own dime, for me to try out. Initially it was just so I could get the "flavor" of the piece but it looks like we might make a deal on it.
That is EXACTLY why I love this place. I have sooooo many good deals, free deals, demo's from people here. I don't at all agree with Leroy's statement of treating everyone here in the FM like Craigslist or Ebay. Probably why I've steered clear of any of his sales.
H9Don't be bitter just because you rub me the wrong way. When did you hear my crappy gear to make that obviously INFLAMMATORY statement? I bet you threw sand when playing in the sandbox at those that didn't agree with you :rolleyes: Plus, it has nothing to do with this thread. Just taking a jab because you feel it's warranted. :rolleyes:
H9
First off you took the first jab by trying to insult my character. I only stated I treat everyone the same from craigslist, eBay, audiogon to club Polk. What's wrong with treating everyone the same? I have 41 positive feedback here and stand behind whatever I sell. If there's a problem you bet I'll fix it. There's many I fell comfortable selling to on here not because I know them but because there here alot and do positive things for Polk. I in no way would wait 4 months for payment here because it was a Polkie who bought my it. But that's just my opinion. -
You're a class act!
Too bad you don't know me or I would care. I'm my own person and don't have to go with the majority to say what I feel. -
Here's a good rule of thumb for sellers: Don't spend the $$ from the buyer as soon as you get it! Not saying that was the case with pfb, but many of us sell stuff in order to afford other purchases. Let a little time go by, or better yet, communicate with the buyer and get some assurance from them that they're satisfied.
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[HTML][/HTML] I only stated I treat everyone the same from craigslist, eBay, audiogon to club Polk. What's wrong with treating everyone the same?
Leroy, if you treat every transaction on ebay and craigslist like you would treat every transaction on Polk, that's one thing.
But, if you treat every transactiion on Polk like you would treat every transaction on craigslist or ebay, than that's another thing. IMO.
The first one is good and would speak to how you attempt to conduct every transaction in a positive, honest manner with CP sort of the standard by which you go by.
The second one ...... well ...... it may not be apparent ,but it sort of lumps everybody on CP in the same group with ebay and craigslist.
There is a difference, IMO, and there OUGHTA BE a difference.
But in any event, thumbs up for PFB for doing the right thing.Sal Palooza -
^^^ I think what he was saying is that he intends to treat everyone the same - with respect.
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mdaudioguy wrote:^^^ I think what he was saying is that he intends to treat everyone the same - with respect.leroyjr1 wrote:Club Polk, craigslist, and eBay all get treated the same with me unless I personally know you.
I took this to mean he would treat sellers/buyers at CP with the same level of caution/distrust as ebay or craigslist. If the CPFM is in the same category as those two...then there is a problem IMO."Just because youre offended doesnt mean youre right." - Ricky Gervais
"For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible." - Stuart Chase
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Never sold anything on line, and if I do today I've learned the right way to do it. I'll also try here first as I really believe that 99% of the folks on CP are upright people. So some good has come from the problem discussed on this thread.
PoTee
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I took this to mean he would treat sellers/buyers at CP with the same level of caution/distrust as ebay or craigslist. If the CPFM is in the same category as those two...then there is a problem IMO.
That is what he said in an earlier post about requesting the item back and inspecting it himself so the buyer "wouldn't get one over on him". I understand a little bit of caution, but to me Cl and Ebay are totally different than the FM transactions I choose to participate in. All I said was if he's going to treat me that way, that's why I haven't bought anything from him. I wasn't even really taking a jab at him, just stating my POV.
And yes there is a rub under the surface from Leroy, not to me directly but to another Polkie who is a good friend and I shouldn't have made it personal in this thread. Leroy is free to conduct his buys/sells anyway he see's fit.
H9"Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul! -
mdaudioguy wrote: »^^^ I think what he was saying is that he intends to treat everyone the same - with respect.
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I have sent gear out before ever receiving payment when selling...and have been afforded the same treatment on a purchase. To someone I trust, a refund would be handled the same way. THAT is what the CPFM used to be about.I have sent gear out before ever receiving payment when selling...and have been afforded the same treatment on a purchase. To someone I trust, a refund would be handled the same way. THAT is what the CPFM IS about.
Holding a higher standard than the rest is exactly what sets this Polk Flea Market apart from the rest. It will remain that way. When we let things slide, things like the aforementioned will not happen. Currently I have over 1.5K out on exactly what you are talking about. Am I worried? No. Has the same been afforded to me? Yes. In fact, it is right now through someone else. It's a fringe benefit of this forum that many trying to buy and sell don't even know about yet.
Stay the course.~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~ -
[HTML][/HTML]That is what he said in an earlier post about requesting the item back and inspecting it himself so the buyer "wouldn't get one over on him". I understand a little bit of caution, but to me Cl and Ebay are totally different than the FM transactions I choose to participate in. All I said was if he's going to treat me that way, that's why I haven't bought anything from him. I wasn't even really taking a jab at him, just stating my POV.
And yes there is a rub under the surface from Leroy, not to me directly but to another Polkie who is a good friend and I shouldn't have made it personal in this thread. Leroy is free to conduct his buys/sells anyway he see's fit.
H9
What I was saying is that I respect and treat everyone equally on eBay, craigslist or CP as a seller and buyer. If there's a problem on all three sites I'd request the item back and issue a refund or whatever it takes to make both parties happy and that's not downgrading Polk in any way.
We don't see eye to eye on many issues and might not like each other but if I ever came to your house you'd get the same hi- bye, the same handshake when I meet you and leave, and you'd get the same yes sir and yes ma'am I show my patents and family everyday. That's not downgrading my family one bit.
As a far as you not liking me because of your buddy, all I can say is be your own person. -
guys-- take it to pm's or the phone please--this thread has served it's purpose,,hopefully an example of doing the right thing for others to see and heed. I hope ya'll work out whatever it is that you don't agree on,,,life's to short ..good night .JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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george daniel wrote: »guys-- take it to pm's or the phone please--this thread has served it's purpose,,hopefully an example of doing the right thing for others to see and heed. I hope ya'll work out whatever it is that you don't agree on,,,life's to short ..good night .
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