This is just hi larious! Field runner gets tasered at a Phillies game
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I would have felt better about this if it hadn't been a 17 year old kid.
Some old belligerent drunk my age would be a different story
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I'm sure if it was your 17 year old boy you would have been pretty upset with the kid, but probably equally upset the boy got tased over it.
The safety of tasers has long been debated. Read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues
I don't agree with what the boy did but would you guys still think it was "funny" if it had killed him?
Just my 2 cents.
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Theres different levels of tasers and you couldn't tell how long he had the trigger pulled....zombie boy 2000 wrote: »Maybe I'm wrong, but I've always understood getting tased is pretty severe. Granted, the dude is a complete idiot. But security has been tackling these sort of buffoons for decades. Hell... if I remember correctly, there have been a few instance where one of the players have taken someone down.
I just think it kinds of stands to common sense that the kid wasn't going to hurt anybody. And I think this sort of action has a set a pretty well-established pattern of there being no real danger to anyone else. Or at least the kind of "danger" that would warrant a full on tasing.
Trust me... I don't feel bad for the kid. I just think it was overkill.
And I'm with Jstas. It's funny as hell. But I'm kind of a sicko...Testing
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hearingimpared wrote: »If you can John, watch the news tonight as I'm sure they are going to reply all the angles and the whole incident.
It's been under discussion all day at work from every angle. I'm sure something will come out of it but I live in NJ so what's it got to do with me? Nothing, that's what. I laughed because the kid did a face plant and then proceeded to carve a trench in the turf with his face while convulsing from the taser. It's the whole deriving pleasure at the misfortune of others thing. Everyone else is all uppity about it. I got a good laugh. I dunno who's perspective on it is twisted or wrong but I probably feel a hell of alot better about my perspective than those who are getting all uppity.
Laugh at the stupid kid. That's why God made them! For our entertainment!
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hearingimpared wrote: »From that pic above he looks at least 18 to me.
He's 17. Says it in the police report and in the article.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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It is my opinion tasers should not be used liberally like this as they can cause death. Now if its an incident where you would actually shoot the guy then I say go for it.
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I would have felt better about this if it hadn't been a 17 year old kid.
Some old belligerent drunk my age would be a different story:D
I'm sure if it was your 17 year old boy you would have been pretty upset with the kid, but probably equally upset the boy got tased over it.
The safety of tasers has long been debated. Read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues
I don't agree with what the boy did but would you guys still think it was "funny" if it had killed him?
Just my 2 cents.
Chris
Yeah and if ifs and buts were candy and nuts it'd be a Merry Christmas too now, wouldn't it?
Your argument is fallacious and begs the question at the same time.
If the kid died, it would certainly be a different news story and I doubt that footage of it would be slathered all over the internet. Get your panties out of a wad and lighten up. A kid got subdued while acting like a fool. That's it. Give it up folks, really.
Like my mom says, if you want to stay out of jail QUIT BREAKING THE LAW!Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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The looks freakin' priceless. I don't deny that. I chortled. I spewed. I even slapped my knee.
I could just see the politics slowly oozing its way into your thread and felt like calling it out.
I still think it was overkill.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore -
How about they clobbered him with a billy club?:eek::eek::p:D
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As long as they did it with the Benny Hill theme playing in the background.I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the rich boys. Get them in the crosshairs and take them down. Just remember, they can buy anything but they can't buy backbone. Don't let them forget it. Thank you.Herman Blume - Rushmore
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He he! The whole thing seems to have made it onto Discovery News (it's part of my Toshiba iGoogle page by default, and I just happened to notice it). I haven't read the article, but here's the link for those that just can't get enough of it:
http://news.discovery.com/tech/do-tasers-hurt.html
I don't see what liberals have to do with this. You're giving them a bad name, and why does every damn topic on C.P. recently have to come down to right vs. left politics?!Go get em' Tony! You're right, too many bleeding heart liberals are wrecking this world! ...
For my part, I'm not going to get into the whole debate about whether tasers are good or bad, but IMHO, as a parent, if:
1) You intentionally disregard rules and delay an event for thousands of other paying guests,
2) You run from a law enforcement officer yelling at you to stop,
3) You think you have every right to disrepect everyone else present at a public event ...
You deserve to suffer the consequences of whatever any law enforcement officer deems to be reasonable, non-lethal force at the time ... especially on a weekend where they may be on high alert because of a bomb attempt that was made in Times Square.
Any son of mine pulling that stunt would find no sympathy when he got home.Alea jacta est! -
I'm sorry, I just don't see anything funny about some 17 year old kid face down, writhing around in pain after having 50,000 volts run through him, stupid prank or not.
Maybe I'll "lighten up" and find this funny some other time. NOT
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He he! The whole thing seems to have made it onto Discovery News (it's part of my Toshiba iGoogle page by default, and I just happened to notice it). I haven't read the article, but here's the link for those that just can't get enough of it:
http://news.discovery.com/tech/do-tasers-hurt.html
I don't see what liberals have to do with this. You're giving them a bad name, and why does every damn topic on C.P. recently have to come down to right vs. left politics?!
For my part, I'm not going to get into the whole debate about whether tasers are good or bad, but IMHO, as a parent, if:
1) You intentionally disregard rules and delay an event for thousands of other paying guests,
2) You run from a law enforcement officer yelling at you to stop,
3) You think you have every right to disrepect everyone else present at a public event ...
You deserve to suffer the consequences of whatever any law enforcement officer deems to be reasonable, non-lethal force at the time ... especially on a weekend where they may be on high alert because of a bomb attempt that was made in Times Square.
Any son of mine pulling that stunt would find no sympathy when he got home.
Kex - what you are saying is not true. The long held equation for force in law enforcement is that force must always be proportional to the threat. Some kid waving a towel does not deserve to be tased, how ever stupid he is acting. I guess the officer could have shot him in both legs that would have been acceptable "non-lethal" force?
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zombie boy 2000 wrote: »as long as they did it with the benny hill theme playing in the background.
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Yes, because shooting someone in the legs is the equivalent to tasering them.
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zombie boy 2000 wrote: »As long as they did it with the Benny Hill theme playing in the background.
Now make it a "sexy party" and then you're talkin' comedy GOLD!Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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You're forgetting the fact that an unidentified person is clearly, very clearly, doing something they know they are clearly, very clearly, and with pre-meditated intent, not supposed to do. It may be unfortunate that they chose a weekend where law enforcement has foiled a bomb threat in a nearby city, but that is still the truth of the matter in that officer's mind ... so ... exactly how grave was the perceived threat under those circumstances?Kex - what you are saying is not true. The long held equation for force in law enforcement is that force must always be proportional to the threat. Some kid waving a towel does not deserve to be tased, how ever stupid he is acting. I guess the officer could have shot him in both legs that would have been acceptable "non-lethal" force?
Chris
It is not the law enforcement officer's job to decide whether a taser is lethal or not. It is supposed to be non-lethal and was used as intended. The debate concerning deaths from taser shots is a whole other debate, and in any case, an officer can reasonably assume that a young person running around like a deer on the field is in very good health, and therefore, unlikely to be a high risk candidate for a taser.
Perhaps they should keep everyone happy and bring in cowboy handlers on horses with a lasoo, but then again, that might have caused the "poor kid" (in all his stupidity IMO) to fall so hard it would have broken his nose or something.
I actually didn't find the original clip all that amusing, as some have said, but I did think it showed really good Police work, and for my part, I applaud the officer without hesitation.Alea jacta est! -
Kex - what you are saying is not true. The long held equation for force in law enforcement is that force must always be proportional to the threat. Some kid waving a towel does not deserve to be tased, how ever stupid he is acting. I guess the officer could have shot him in both legs that would have been acceptable "non-lethal" force?
Chris
For goodness sakes, if my 13 year old skiny like a toothpick son got tased for pulling a stupid stunt like that, when he got home he would get a good smack on top of it for being such a dope and possibly causing the family to put out money for fines and to possibly take the time to cart the kid around to various community service establishments.
Ya can't blame the parents either! You don't know what a hormone driven teenager is going to do when out of your sight despite good training and character building efforts. Peer pressure, I'm sure, was involved here.
It was stupid, he wanted attention, well he got it and more.
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There's far less chance of injury from being tasered than a 300lbs cop and several others tackling/landing on him.
Yes it's painful, but only momentarily."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche -
This from that Discovery News article BTW (I finally read it, since I don't like to post a link without some idea of what's in it):... Except this time, the overzealous fan who told his dad he was looking for a "once in a lifetime experience" got a little more than he bargained for: he got Tasered. ...
He wants attention? Make him stand for four hours in a local shopping mall on busy weekends, wearing nothing but a Borat style green "monokini" bathing suit. That should give him enough attention for a while.Alea jacta est! -
The preferred use of the taser in law enforcement is as a less-lethal weapon to be used by police to subdue fleeing, belligerent, or potentially dangerous subjects, often when what they consider to be a more lethal weapon would have otherwise been used.
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There's far less chance of injury from being tasered than a 300lbs cop and several others tackling/landing on him.
Yes it's painful, but only momentarily.
Spot on Mike!
I got zapped by a faulty ceramic flyback transformer on an old color TV set many, many moons ago when I was 18 years old, 40,000 volts very low amperage. It hit me on the elbow and knocked me across the room about 5'. Aside from hitting my hip on the table I was just a little stunned and was fine within minutes.
Just like the kid. . . did you notice he got up almost immedialtely.
I wish people would stop making such a big deal about this. UGH!:rolleyes: -
I'm sorry, I just don't see anything funny about some 17 year old kid face down, writhing around in pain after having 50,000 volts run through him, stupid prank or not.
Maybe I'll "lighten up" and find this funny some other time. NOT
Chris
Dude....honestly...ugh...
When discussing electrical shocks, voltage does not matter, amperage does. You can pump 500,000 volts through the human body at .0125 amps and the person might wet themselves due to loss of control of the bladder but, barring a pre-existing medical condition, will come out of it just fine.
The TASER uses 50K volts and an AVERAGE of 2.1mA. That's milliamps. That's .001 amps. .5 amps can kill you. 1.0 amps will light you up light you up like a Roman candle. 50K volts at .0021 amps will cause you to lose control of your muscles, especially if the pulse width is tuned right but it will not kill you unless you have a pre-existing condition. But .0021 amps? That's less than what static electricity from your socks has.
From Wikipedia:
"Tasers primarily function by creating neuromuscular incapacitation, which means that it interrupts the ability of the brain to control the muscles in the body. This creates an immediate and unavoidable incapacitation that is not based on pain and cannot be overcome."
He was not in pain. He was incapable if controlling his muscles because the electrical current in his body was interrupting his brain's ability to command those muscles through massive amounts of EM interference. That same interference overloads your nervous system and causes all of your muscles to tense up. The beauty of a TASER is that skeletal muscles operate at different frequencies than other muscles like your diaphragm and heart. So if you shock with a pulse width designed to interrupt the wavelength controlling skeletal muscles, it leaves other muscles unaffected and takes you down like a sack of wet noodles. Unless of course you have a pre-existing condition.
I should also point out that an overwhelming majority of the 250 or so reported deaths from a TASER were not attributed to the TASER itself but rather to the stressful condition created when the person's fear sets in.
Cry to everyone else on the Internet about your stupid little crusades you go on but if you are going to cry to me, I'm going to hit you in the face with facts like they were a board with a rusty nail in it. Go cry foul somewhere else, not in my thread.Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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The preferred use of the taser in law enforcement is as a less-lethal weapon to be used by police to subdue fleeing, belligerent, or potentially dangerous subjects, often when what they consider to be a more lethal weapon would have otherwise been used.
Chris
So when did you become a cop?Expert Moron Extraordinaire
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OK, so forget the bomb in New York, what about Monica Seles being stabbed by a 19 year-old?The preferred use of the taser in law enforcement is as a less-lethal weapon to be used by police to subdue fleeing, belligerent, or potentially dangerous subjects, often when what they consider to be a more lethal weapon would have otherwise been used.
Chris
Exactly what was not supposed to be "potentially dangerous" about this field runner in the officer's split second judgement?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/april/30/newsid_2499000/2499161.stmAlea jacta est! -
John just to make sure. . . it .2 amps that can kill you if enough voltage can force it through your heart. Either way, who CARES!
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So when did you become a cop?
Read up on it in Wikipedia, just like you friend. I'm not going to debate tasers, arguments can be made both ways.
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I've already posted the facts that are relevant to the discussion here. I guess we could agree to disagree, but why would I want to do that when I'm winning the debate??:D
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I forgot Wiki is reference of choice for law enforcement."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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Read up on it in Wikipedia, just like you friend. I'm not going to debate tasers, arguments can be made both ways.
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I've already posted the facts that are relevant to the discussion here. I guess we could agree to disagree, but why would I want to do that when I'm winning the debate??:D
Chris
Wikipedia, always very accurate and written by experts.:rolleyes:
Wow if you think you are winning a this debate I would hate to see the one you loose.:eek::D
HOWEVER, just for the sake of peace and harmony in our beloved Club Polk, I'll agree to disagree with you. I can't speak for anyone else though! -
